Delver Dead in RtR?

[Monrodesign]

Just watched an article by Brad Nelson saying Delver is dead in standard?

Do you care?

[Hunteroffire9]

Delver is not dead I personally do not like delver but I know it's not dead

[Kaleo42]

It isnt dead, it just has to adapt. We wont see it top 8 much this month, but give it time and itll come back with a vengance. I dot know if itll survive for long after that though.

[Monrodesign]

I feel like Detain fixes Delver U/W Control way more.

[Hunteroffire9]

Dealer decks well realy start to turn into detain control decks

[AgrusKos]

Just watched an article by Brad Nelson saying Delver is dead in standard?

Do you care?

you watched an article???

[Monrodesign]

Just watched an article by Brad Nelson saying Delver is dead in standard?

Do you care?

you watched an article???

I'm good like that.

[Greg54js]

I'm sure I could whip up a decent detainver deck

[Agrajagzz9]

Yeah it's dead. I feel like the counter magic isn't good enough and there is so much working against it now. There isn't enough things which can protect a delver in a cost efficient way. Vapor snag was so good and unsommon isn't even close. I feel like we aren't going to be seeing and uw delver. Maybe ur delver because there are some decent burn spells ala mizzium mortars but it's not going to be great. Maybe come gatecrash

[Guitello]

Yeah it's dead. I feel like the counter magic isn't good enough and there is so much working against it now. There isn't enough things which can protect a delver in a cost efficient way. Vapor snag was so good and unsommon isn't even close. I feel like we aren't going to be seeing and uw delver. Maybe ur delver because there are some decent burn spells ala mizzium mortars but it's not going to be great. Maybe come gatecrash

Everyone says that unsummon is SO much worse then vapor snag, but IT ISN'T! The one damage means barely anything. Sure you can ping your opponent, but unsummon allows you to also return your OWN creatures with no health loss

[CajunJynx]

Glad to see it go. Hated FNM's where everyone was playing either delver, G with prime time, or damn tokens (but they never remembered to bring tokens.....). It was literally the same three decks, down to the sb.

[izik99]

Yeah it's dead. I feel like the counter magic isn't good enough and there is so much working against it now. There isn't enough things which can protect a delver in a cost efficient way. Vapor snag was so good and unsommon isn't even close. I feel like we aren't going to be seeing and uw delver. Maybe ur delver because there are some decent burn spells ala mizzium mortars but it's not going to be great. Maybe come gatecrash

Everyone says that unsummon is SO much worse then vapor snag, but IT ISN'T! The one damage means barely anything. Sure you can ping your opponent, but unsummon allows you to also return your OWN creatures with no health loss

It was more just good for the phyrexian cost

[Kaleo42]

I have said this before, but few people seem to understand it.

Each point of damage matters!
Pre rotation many delver decks didnt even main counter spells. The whole concept of it's victory was based on pings and pokes here and there and cost effective spells that insured the pokes got through. Then the icing on the cake was the fact at any moment the deck was likely to whip out 5-12 damage out of no where.

[Phat Max]

Loss of {Vapor Snag} {Gut Shot} and {Mana Leak} hurts...

But it's {Ponder} that really just kills Delver decks as they pre-RtR

[InfinitiveDivinity]

Yeah it's dead. I feel like the counter magic isn't good enough and there is so much working against it now. There isn't enough things which can protect a delver in a cost efficient way. Vapor snag was so good and unsommon isn't even close. I feel like we aren't going to be seeing and uw delver. Maybe ur delver because there are some decent burn spells ala mizzium mortars but it's not going to be great. Maybe come gatecrash

Everyone says that unsummon is SO much worse then vapor snag, but IT ISN'T! The one damage means barely anything. Sure you can ping your opponent, but unsummon allows you to also return your OWN creatures with no health loss

It was more just good for the phyrexian cost

{Vapor Snag} doesn't have a Phyrexian cost.