Theft?

Started by Moneekahh, September 25, 2012, 12:33:45 AM

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Piotr

Quote from: Cindjor on September 26, 2012, 05:03:16 AM
I would call it theft. B willingly let A get frustrated enough to give up on returning the lands so A would, in exasperation, give up on expecting the lands back.

Well, no. A willingly let the ownership pass to B, and that's that. What was the reason and what influenced A's decision is another story.

Rass

Quote from: Piotr on September 26, 2012, 06:32:37 AM
Quote from: Cindjor on September 26, 2012, 05:03:16 AM
I would call it theft. B willingly let A get frustrated enough to give up on returning the lands so A would, in exasperation, give up on expecting the lands back.

Well, no. A willingly let the ownership pass to B, and that's that. What was the reason and what influenced A's decision is another story.

Do we really know how will the person was? It was never stated how the "gift was given".


BlackJester

I believe that there's a 6 month period wherein if you lend someone something and 6 months goes by an you don't try to get it back, it's theirs.

This is just something I've heard.

Moneekahh

Let's thicken the plot:

To answer questions, B claims to have intended on returning the cards to A after the break up. A t

Moneekahh

A claims to have told B to forget about returning the cards out of frustration and not wanting to deal with B anymore. A lent B the cards without even being asked by B.

I am one of these letters, btw.

BlackJester

You don't say... 😏  😄

Gorzo

Figured :P sorry about the breakup, whichever letter you may be. Bad breakups kinda suck. A lot.

I still stand by what seems to be the general consensus, that it's not theft.

Not that my opinion really matters on this, but I still believe that it would have been the nice/"good" thing to do of B to return the cards ASAP before the frustrated change of ownership and sale of two of them could have taken place.  And to keep things fair, A should not have gone and labeled B as a thief to their whole mtg meta. Neither of those things needed to happen, just be civil! But yeah, I know, relationships and breakups don't exactly work that way all the time. :(

Piotr

Quote from: Testset on September 26, 2012, 10:50:36 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on September 26, 2012, 10:25:26 PM
I believe that there's a 6 month period wherein if you lend someone something and 6 months goes by an you don't try to get it back, it's theirs.

This is just something I've heard.
Is that based on Canadian law?

Definitely not on the Gathering Law :P
Sounds very wrong (as in, evil) to me.

Double-O-Scotch

Sounds like if this whole situation was magic cards, "gain control of two dually lands until end of turn" and then you sac them for some other spell that wins you the game the deck being played would be blue and black. Or more appropriately, conniving and evil. That's like losing a black lotus to a bronze tablet. Bad form. Sure it's in the rules (if you're playing for ante) but how could you ever feel good about yourself afterwards?

Mikefrompluto

Yeeeeah no, still not theft. Especially if he didn't even ask to borrow them in the first place and you willingly let him borrow them. Tacky? Yes. Theft? No.

Double-O-Scotch

Hey, not saying its theft. Just a dick move. Bad form.

Mikefrompluto

Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on September 27, 2012, 11:53:31 AM
Hey, not saying its theft. Just a dick move. Bad form.

I agree. I wasn't replying to your comment. I was replying the the OPs further comments. Definitely bad form. But on the other hand, I wouldn't have willingly lend out something of value and get mad when it isn't returned. That's the risk you take.

Ex. I wouldn't let someone borrow my brand new car, but I'd let them borrow my secondhand mountain bike that I paid $20 for.

Regardless it definitely does suck and maybe the OP learned a lesson.

Sevenfold

Quote from: BlackJester on September 26, 2012, 10:25:26 PM
I believe that there's a 6 month period wherein if you lend someone something and 6 months goes by an you don't try to get it back, it's theirs.

This is just something I've heard.
In kentucky its just 30 days. Like if you leave a game at a freinds house for 30 legaly its your freinds now. But in doing this doesnt mean you wont get your a$£ kicked

Double-O-Scotch

Not that it's anything to brag about, but I've had my fair share of failed relationships and you always give each other your stuff back. Saves everybody the drama. Mail it to them or put it all in a box and have a mutual friend drop it off if you can't stand dealing with them anymore. Civility goes a looooooooooooooooooooooooong way.

Cindjor

Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on September 27, 2012, 12:09:13 PM
Not that it's anything to brag about, but I've had my fair share of failed relationships and you always give each other your stuff back. Saves everybody the drama. Mail it to them or put it all in a box and have a mutual friend drop it off if you can't stand dealing with them anymore. Civility goes a looooooooooooooooooooooooong way.

This. Civility isn't always legally correct, but we have to have moral integrity.