Monoblue Standard Mill

G33kL0rd · September 21, 2012, 08:50:49 PM

Monoblue Standard Mill

69 cards, 4 sideboard

26 {Island}

26 lands

2 {Geralf's Mindcrusher}
4 {Fog Bank}
3 {Kraken Hatchling}
3 {Jace's Phantasm}

12 creatures

3 {Sands of Delirium}
3 {Chronic Flooding}
2 {Dissipate}
3 {Mind Sculpt}
2 {Rewind}
3 {Thought Scour}
1 {Essence Scatter}
4 {Curse of the Bloody Tome}
2 {Jace, Memory Adept}
1 {Negate}
2 {Index}
1 {Curse of Echoes}

27 other spells

Sideboard

4 {Tormod's Crypt}

4 sideboard cards

G33kL0rd · September 21, 2012, 08:51:39 PM

Haven't fully tested, waiting on some cards from trollandtoad. Thoughts?

G33kL0rd · September 23, 2012, 04:57:37 PM

Tested a little and did away with the sideboard. If I do end up facing a Golgari deck, well then I guess I'll just be screwed, won't I? It needs a few tweaks but I can't put my finger on the exact problem yet. I have found that a non-mill approach is needed to deal with burn decks: mill at least 10 and them just deal with them via {Jace's Phantasm}.

Monrodesign · September 23, 2012, 05:06:37 PM

{Dream Twist}

G33kL0rd · September 23, 2012, 05:13:59 PM

Meh, considered it many times, but basically after flashback you're milling 6 for 3 mana. Compare to 7 for 2 with {Mind Sculpt}, and also this decks biggest reliance is on having multiple {Curse of the Bloody Tome}s and in the best-case scenario {Jace, Memory Adept}. Not much room for something like that in there. Also, I have enough 1- or 2-mana cards, draw a few sample hands and you'll know what I mean.

G33kL0rd · September 23, 2012, 05:14:32 PM

That was a much larger explanation than I needed.

InfinitiveDivinity · September 23, 2012, 05:21:30 PM

{Increasing Confusion}? I've been contemplating making Standard Mill myself. Also, {Tormod's Crypt} seems pretty solid against Golgari. Just my 2 cents.

G33kL0rd · September 23, 2012, 05:29:10 PM

The sideboard was 4 {Tormod's Crypt}s and 2 {Talrand's Invocation}s. I just found out today though that sideboards must have 15 cards, and I only own 1 Crypt so I just decided to forget it. {Increasing Confusion} is one of those "Great in Limited, terrible in Constructed" cards, which I will again have you compare to {Mind Sculpt}, despite its nice flashback. Also on the topic of flashback, I may or may not add {Psychic Spiral} in come RtR, and if I do flashback won't be very good. I think what I really need is more deck control; more specifically, another {Index}. Not really sure though.

InfinitiveDivinity · September 23, 2012, 05:45:16 PM

Quote from: G33kL0rd on September 23, 2012, 05:29:10 PM
The sideboard was 4 {Tormod's Crypt}s and 2 {Talrand's Invocation}s. I just found out today though that sideboards must have 15 cards, and I only own 1 Crypt so I just decided to forget it. {Increasing Confusion} is one of those "Great in Limited, terrible in Constructed" cards, which I will again have you compare to {Mind Sculpt}, despite its nice flashback. Also on the topic of flashback, I may or may not add {Psychic Spiral} in come RtR, and if I do flashback won't be very good. I think what I really need is more deck control; more specifically, another {Index}. Not really sure though.

If you compare every spell to {Mind Sculpt} you'll end up only running 4 Mill spells, until we get Dimir, Mill honestly doesn't seem too great. {Glimpse the Unthinkable} would get me on board for sure! Give me Glimpses and we'll talk.

InfinitiveDivinity · September 23, 2012, 06:22:04 PM

Get 3 more Tormod's and fill the rest of the board with junk. They are EXACTLY what you run against Golgari. Splashing some black for {Nephalia Drownyard} seems good!

G33kL0rd · September 27, 2012, 06:46:30 AM

I guess black could help, but I really hate the singlemindedness of the color, I never run it. Sure, it's only in flavor, but I just don't run it, okay?

And about your comment about comparing to {Mind Sculpt}, I guess you're right. I might run a {Dream Twist} or two, but I'll have to start looking at what to take out. What this deck really runs on is {Curse of the Bloody Tome} for a turn-by-turn breakdown.

And by the way, have you seen some of the guildless blue mills? I can't wait for {Chronic Flooding}!

G33kL0rd · September 27, 2012, 06:56:52 AM

Funny story for this deck. I was playing my friend's monoblack at lunch yesterday, had 2 {Curse of the Bloody Tome}s on him and I had enough blockers to stop whatever he had. He had 6 cards left in his library when I passed over my turn, so he milled 4 and drew, leaving one card left in his library. Now what he drew was the fun part. What could you draw as a second-to-last card but {Increasing Ambition}! We all laughed plenty, but when he jokingly played it I retained my role of annoying blue mage and {Negate}d it.

Wally · September 27, 2012, 01:25:48 PM

Could swap kraken hatchling for {ludevic's test subject} as an alternate win con.

K-RO · September 27, 2012, 02:32:39 PM

Quote from: Wally on September 27, 2012, 01:25:48 PM
Could swap kraken hatchling for {ludevic's test subject} as an alternate win con.

If you were to do that you would also want the proliferate blue counter peel from reality, it would also help get jace to his -7, only downside is proliferating blue is rotating out. My suggestion is get some temporal mastery's and extra turn to mill is what helped me win with my mill deck

Mothaelon · September 27, 2012, 03:26:42 PM

Is this a casual/standard deck?

Cause it seems like there is no survivability or sustain in this deck, saying if you were to fnm this deck or something