Dark Ascension Spoilers

[Prophylaxis]

Does it work for EDH?!?!?

Does what work?  The Binding blade?  Why wouldn't it?  Do I have any more rhetorical questions? 

You can only run Elbrus if you have a black conmander. 

[BlackJester]

You can only run Elbrus if you have a black conmander. 

Really?  There's no black in the cost?
I'm not totally up on EDH/Commander rules, mind you.

[Spikepit]

You can only run Elbrus if you have a black conmander. 

Really?  There's no black in the cost?
I'm not totally up on EDH/Commander rules, mind you.

Yeah, any mana symbol anywhere on any card in the deck must only the ones on the Commander's card.

Ive had a similar argument in the past with friends that you can't use {Tatsumasa, the Dragon Fang} in a W/B EDH deck. I think you can coz there's no mana symbol, they say you can't. ðŸ˜'

[InfinitiveDivinity]

So {Rhys the Exiled} can't be in a {Rhys the Redeemed} EDH deck???

[Spikepit]

So {Rhys the Exiled} can't be in a {Rhys the Redeemed} EDH deck???

Yes he can, because they both have the Green mana symbol. Commander rules don't specify multicoloured, snow or Phyrexian mana symbols as a commander choice, they just represent the colours they are based in.

I wouldn't be able to put a {Naya Hushblade} into a {Rhys Redeemed} deck either. 😊

[BlackJester]

So {Rhys the Exiled} can't be in a {Rhys the Redeemed} EDH deck???

Nope.
I still thing the Blade should be okay since there are no black mana symbols anywhere. Can you not use {Civilized Scholar} in a {Grimgrin, Corpse-born} EDH deck?

On another note, I like how this set let's you save a creature from a {Tragic Slip} with a {Saving Grasp}. 😁

Also, we just hit 13 pages here.

[InfinitiveDivinity]

But {Rhys the Exiled} has a black ability, I know the deck, no matter what, cannot produce black, so that's irrelevant, but can he still be in it? There's a black mana symbol on the card, or is it just in the CMC? I was confused because you said if it's on the card.

[BlackJester]

All symbols on all cards are checked.

[InfinitiveDivinity]

Damn... That sucks

[BlackJester]

Damn... That sucks

The Community Rules:
* A card can't be included in your deck if any mana symbol in its mana cost or rules text is a color not in your commander's color identity. A card also can't be included in your deck if it has a characteristic-defining ability defining it to be a color not in your commander's color identity.

My point is that for DFCs, the moonside isn't considered until its on the field with that side up. I suppose it's more about the spirit of EDH, and I'm trying to sneak in a technicality.

[InfinitiveDivinity]

I think as far as my group would care, {Rhys the Exiled} would be fine as just a green Elf. But that is pretty dumb, especially since that would mean that having him as a Commander would make him ineligible to be in his own deck 

[BlackJester]

I think as far as my group would care, {Rhys the Exiled} would be fine as just a green Elf. But that is pretty dumb, especially since that would mean that having him as a Commander would make him ineligible to be in his own deck 

If that's how they'd go, cool. Frankly I like the idea that you just can't generate non-Command colors and leave it at that.

Also, about the DFCs,

CR- 903.4c The back face of a double-faced card (see rule 711) is included when determining a card's color identity.
😭

[InfinitiveDivinity]

Damn that sucks =/

[Prophylaxis]

This will be unsticked once Piotr releases DA on iMTG.

[Spikepit]

Starter deckists are up:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg%2Fdaily%2Farcana%2F894