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But you do still get any etb triggers, so using flamerush with say a {Dragonlord Atarka} would get you something that's ALMOST as good as another flying 8/8


Edit: trample.   Flying 8/8 trample.

I get the eot stun... Standard version would be {Defiant Strike}, {Pressure Point} or {Refocus}

{ruthless instincts} gives you an offensive and a defensive option with zada

So does touch of moonglove it is a.a boardwioe and b.can be a game winner depending on how many declared blockers and all it takes is one creature to attack you with multiple creatures at your disposal and block with all your creatures drop moonglove and take half if not all their life for one measly swamp über pomage

Yes but ruthless instincts gives you the option on the attack, give everything a boost and trample for the overkill

{ruthless instincts} gives you an offensive and a defensive option with zada

Opened two boxes and got a {Steam Vents} and foilamog...

I built something similar but I focused on the life triggers.  I used a couple of {Brutal Hordechief} and a full set of {Foul-Tongue Shriek}.  Also used the {Mardu Shadowspear} and an extra Gideon.  Designed it to be a fast aggro-burn deck, using the allies for the finish.

Yes, the trigger is from the targeting.  It's just like a trigger for casting a spell; you still get the trigger even if the spell is countered.

I like the exemplars with the cheap instants.  My favorite in this case would be {titans strength} for beatdown sideboard.  My concern with the new set is the popularity of the eldrazi and the prevalence of colorless removal spells; i guess we'll see what happens this friday to my local meta.  Eldrazi are bigger, and against a green/blue ramp i'm not sure i would try beatdown.  Colorless removal and creatures means protection spells are almost useless as well.

For a transform sideboard, what about {ojutai's exemplars} and {felidar's sovereign}.  New win con and the base is already there

Edit: and you originally had them in the deck :)

ooooo, fun :)

so this doent seem to complicated until you have a set up with multiple willbreakers summoned at different times.

stolen creature A has a trigger from WB 1 and 2
stolen creature B has a trigger from WB 1, 2 and 3
they kill WB1
you summon WB 4
you steal creature C with triggers from WB 2,3 and 4
etc...

Complicated would be using your will breaker to steal their will breaker, freeing all your creatures.  Then start stealing theirs with two under your control.  Opponent drops another one stealing yours freeing his other will breaker and creatures.

Now I really want to watch a will breaker mirror match...

Nice little synergy between {Grave Birthing} and {Erebos Titan}. 

All good :). Honestly i like math but my head was hurting thinking about all the triggers...  Glad it works though

Sorry buddy, but it's actually in the rules on gatherer under arcbond.  If two creatures have arcbond and indestructible, game results in a draw.  Last ruling...

Edit: reread the ruling and i stand corrected, you are right sir :)

{Arcbond} and {Valorous Stance} on zada with any damage source would go infinite and result in a draw.  However i like the idea of using arcbond when blocked - the combo would work if any creature was blocked, not just zada.  Damage would be capped though once your creatures started dying off.  Your creatures all have 1 or 2 toughness, so they will probably drop in the first trigger - i don't know how effective that would make the combo.

Actually i was trying to set up something similar... I was using zada with {Chandras Ignition} and {Valorous Stance} to keep the kiddies alive.