Would you guys consider playing draft or fnm or sealed to be gambling? My parents seem to think it does...but by their logic I would say the stock market is gambling
Hardly... You keep the cards you draft whether you win or lose. If money cards matter to you than draft the money cards. If you lose you still walk away with 3 packs worth of physical cards. I'd say the stock market is a HUGE gamble lol.
It's a form of gambling. The extra money goes for the packs people win.
Quote from: Rass on June 06, 2012, 10:25:59 PM
It's a form of gambling. The extra money goes for the packs people win.
What about when the draft costs $10 and there are no prizes? And by that logic isn't the stock market gambling?
Everything could be considered gambling. Mtg is a game you pay money to play that you can win prizes at. It's like a carnival game
Anyone else have an opinion on the topic?
During alpha and beta they used to play for antes. Some cards would have to have antes or you had to take them out of the deck.
FNM on drafts aren't gambling anymore than other competitive events. You pay to enter a 3 on 3 B-ball tourney. You play to win the prizes.
Gambling means you place money on "random" events (horse races, poker games, slot machines) in hopes of gaining money. It's not about skill, but luck (poker bends this rule a bit)
Magic tourneys require an admission fee and that's it. You cant keep "betting" hoping to win more, like you could in poker.
Also, with drafting and sealed, you are effectively buying the cards and then competing for prizes with them.
Quote from: Sagemaster on June 06, 2012, 10:17:54 PM
Would you guys consider playing draft or fnm or sealed to be gambling? My parents seem to think it does...but by their logic I would say the stock market is gambling
Stock market is gambling by normal logic too ;)
Quote from: Sagemaster on June 06, 2012, 10:30:10 PM
Quote from: Rass on June 06, 2012, 10:25:59 PM
It's a form of gambling. The extra money goes for the packs people win.
What about when the draft costs $10 and there are no prizes? And by that logic isn't the stock market gambling?
When there is nothing at stake then no I wouldn't consider it gambling.
Stock market has nothing to do with this topic. But I do think that is gambling too.
I don't think I'd consider buying and selling things that vary in price technically "gambling". It has the same feeling of gambling, especially day trading, but there are forces that influence stock prices that can be taken into consideration. I don't think that Wall Street brokers need to seek counseling for a gambling addiction.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 07, 2012, 11:27:08 AM
I don't think I'd consider buying and selling things that vary in price technically "gambling". It has the same feeling of gambling, especially day trading, but there are forces that influence stock prices that can be taken into consideration. I don't think that Wall Street brokers need to seek counseling for a gambling addiction.
I agree but I'm just saying by my parents logic it's the same. My dad buys and sells stocks which was why I brought it up.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 07, 2012, 11:27:08 AM
I don't think I'd consider buying and selling things that vary in price technically "gambling". It has the same feeling of gambling, especially day trading, but there are forces that influence stock prices that can be taken into consideration. I don't think that Wall Street brokers need to seek counseling for a gambling addiction.
When rolling dice there are things to take into consideration or playing cards.
Lol I know some traders who should seek help.
The only aspect of gambling is when you buy packs, and get addicted to trying to pull what you want and don't stop
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on June 07, 2012, 02:38:33 PM
The only aspect of gambling is when you buy packs, and get addicted to trying to pull what you want and don't stop
Maybe, but even then you are buying something, you have something to show for your expenses. You walk into a casino and things don't go your way, you got nothing (well, maybe some comp'ed food and drinks, but probably not worth hundreds of dollars that you may have dropped.)
Long opinion inc!!!
Is playing magic gambling? No, you buy cards play with your friends for fun nothing at stake for winning or losing (except bragging rights) then no it's not gambling
If your playing where there is a buy in and prizes at the end. Then this is gambling. You buy in for $xx.xx (your wager) you are betting on yourself to win(the pot) be it split or what have you.
Most drafts/sealed events i go tocost more then what it would cost to buy the same number of packs.
Is it hard core gambling no. Is it a form of gambling yes.
Can you delete this? It no longer matters
Quote from: BlackJester on June 07, 2012, 11:27:08 AMI don't think that Wall Street brokers need to seek counseling for a gambling addiction.
Neither the house needs to. It's their victims, err, customers, who need :P
Quote from: Piotr on June 08, 2012, 05:58:43 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 07, 2012, 11:27:08 AMI don't think that Wall Street brokers need to seek counseling for a gambling addiction.
Neither the house needs to. It's their victims, err, customers, who need :P
Touche, my good man. Touche!