modern started with the modern border. What about a new format with the M15 border? Thoughts? Include supplement products?
Supplemental products would break it.
Thats basically standard with the power level of sets these days, plus the old extended was superfluous to the needs of wizards and players alike.
Quote from: Rass on November 10, 2015, 06:44:34 PM
Supplemental products would break it.
Only really MM2. No? I like the idea of cards originally printed in new borders in supplement sets.
We can also make a ban list.
Quote from: Noblellama on November 10, 2015, 07:38:32 PM
When the premiered the new boarder I suggested that old boards were Alpha-7th
New boarders are 8-M14
And new are M15- current
I thought about suggesting formats such as pre-modern (no new boarders)
Neo-modern (only newest boarders)
Definitions sound good to me. Pre-modern as in alpha-7th? Could be fun if the power 9 and some other offenders are banned.
i mean its slowed down a ton since they started the new border.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on November 10, 2015, 09:05:32 PM
Quote from: Rass on November 10, 2015, 06:44:34 PM
Supplemental products would break it.
Only really MM2. No? I like the idea of cards originally printed in new borders in supplement sets.
We can also make a ban list.
I'm thinking commander and duel decks would break it.
Quote from: Rass on November 11, 2015, 02:24:53 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on November 10, 2015, 09:05:32 PM
Quote from: Rass on November 10, 2015, 06:44:34 PM
Supplemental products would break it.
Only really MM2. No? I like the idea of cards originally printed in new borders in supplement sets.
We can also make a ban list.
I'm thinking commander and duel decks would break it.
I don't really think so.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on November 11, 2015, 02:20:51 PM
Quote from: Rass on November 11, 2015, 02:24:53 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on November 10, 2015, 09:05:32 PM
Quote from: Rass on November 10, 2015, 06:44:34 PM
Supplemental products would break it.
Only really MM2. No? I like the idea of cards originally printed in new borders in supplement sets.
We can also make a ban list.
I'm thinking commander and duel decks would break it.
I don't really think so.
Certain colors will get advantages because duel decks don't share all five colors. Also as post above. Or even {Sol Ring} is too powerful.
{True-Name Nemisis} isn't in the M15 border...
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on November 11, 2015, 04:58:10 PM
{True-Name Nemisis} isn't in the M15 border...
Yes but they can print something in the future that is similar.
Quote from: Potticus on November 12, 2015, 12:54:56 AM
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Quote from: Taysby on November 11, 2015, 02:30:57 PM
{true-name nemesis}
{golgari charm}
I sort of kid....
Charm is not legal in this format.
WELL NEITHER IS TRUE NAME! :P
If you include supplemental products. FTV products would be too... I think the new formats would struggle with the power in those..
Quote from: Kaylesh on November 12, 2015, 04:06:03 AM
Quote from: Potticus on November 12, 2015, 12:54:56 AM
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Quote from: Potticus on November 11, 2015, 04:56:59 PM
Quote from: Taysby on November 11, 2015, 02:30:57 PM
{true-name nemesis}
{golgari charm}
I sort of kid....
Charm is not legal in this format.
WELL NEITHER IS TRUE NAME! :P
If you include supplemental products. FTV products would be too... I think the new formats would struggle with the power in those..
Would it be too much work to ban the offenders?
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on November 12, 2015, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on November 12, 2015, 04:06:03 AM
Quote from: Potticus on November 12, 2015, 12:54:56 AM
Quote from: Rass on November 11, 2015, 05:31:26 PM
Quote from: Potticus on November 11, 2015, 04:56:59 PM
Quote from: Taysby on November 11, 2015, 02:30:57 PM
{true-name nemesis}
{golgari charm}
I sort of kid....
Charm is not legal in this format.
WELL NEITHER IS TRUE NAME! :P
If you include supplemental products. FTV products would be too... I think the new formats would struggle with the power in those..
Would it be too much work to ban the offenders?
It's less work to not include supplements. I get your point however.
Quote from: Kaylesh on November 12, 2015, 10:51:16 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on November 12, 2015, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on November 12, 2015, 04:06:03 AM
Quote from: Potticus on November 12, 2015, 12:54:56 AM
Quote from: Rass on November 11, 2015, 05:31:26 PM
Quote from: Potticus on November 11, 2015, 04:56:59 PM
Quote from: Taysby on November 11, 2015, 02:30:57 PM
{true-name nemesis}
{golgari charm}
I sort of kid....
Charm is not legal in this format.
WELL NEITHER IS TRUE NAME! :P
If you include supplemental products. FTV products would be too... I think the new formats would struggle with the power in those..
Would it be too much work to ban the offenders?
It's less work to not include supplements. I get your point however.
That wasn't sarcastic, that was a serious question. I just really like some of the commander deck cards and would love to build around them.
Only would work for m15 + block sets
No special product
Seems fair. I'll agree.
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 13, 2015, 02:43:28 PM
Only would work for m15 + block sets
No special product
Just realized this is a must for the format to live.
DD Anthologies is printed in M15 border. I don't think you want {daze}
Quote from: Kaylesh on November 24, 2015, 04:17:23 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 13, 2015, 02:43:28 PM
Only would work for m15 + block sets
No special product
Just realized this is a must for the format to live.
DD Anthologies is printed in M15 border. I don't think you want {daze}
Yeah {Daze} would be painful when there are no real two mana counterspells in the "format"
Oh wow very true. Have to be core products. In a few years, it could really be a format...
Quote from: GlowackAttack on November 24, 2015, 07:32:10 PM
Do you think that if "newer modern" becomes a thing that they will put a time line lock on Old Modern? Like 8th edition to Magic 2015 and then from modern 2015 to current.
I highly doubt it. I see it more how legacy except only expansions.
Yeah, that would cause riots. Modern as we know it would become a dying format. Without new cards the meta will set itself. Not to mention secondary market prospects for all those modern staples. They wouldn't plummet overnight, but I don't think many people would buy into the format anymore.
It would become like a huge block constructed, and how many people play that?
Quote from: Kaylesh on November 25, 2015, 01:53:13 AM
Yeah, that would cause riots. Modern as we know it would become a dying format. Without new cards the meta will set itself. Not to mention secondary market prospects for all those modern staples. They wouldn't plummet overnight, but I don't think many people would buy into the format anymore.
It would become like a huge block constructed, and how many people play that?
That is very true. Shock lands wouldn't be used anywhere besides old modern and causal. Vice versa the khans fetches and tango duels would skyrocket because they'd be the go to lands for the new modern