2 {Vault of the Archangel}
1 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth}
1 {Rugged Prairie}
1 {Plains}
2 {Mountain}
2 {Swamp}
2 {Dragonskull Summit}
1 {Godless Shrine}
1 {Sacred Foundry}
1 {Blood Crypt}
4 {Arid Mesa}
4 {Bloodstained Mire}
22 lands
4 {Ashenmoor Liege}
4 {Rakdos Shred-Freak}
4 {Simian Spirit Guide}
3 {Ashenmoor Gouger}
3 {Sootstoke Kindler}
3 {Rakdos Cackler}
2 {Anathemancer}
2 {Gray Merchant of Asphodel}
2 {Alesha, Who Smiles at Death}
27 creatures
3 {Æther Vial}
4 {Lightning Bolt}
4 {Terminate}
11 other spells
Sideboard
2 {Blood Moon}
2 {Wear // Tear}
2 {Leyline of Sanctity}
2 {Boros Charm}
2 {Stony Silence}
3 {Rakdos Charm}
1 {Slaughter Games}
1 {Zealous Persecution}
15 sideboard cards
Notes:
Basically trying to create a deck that's red and black that's similar to my Abzan deck :) any ideas to improve it would be great especially land wise, stuff similar to Gavony Township would be great
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Thinking bout splashing white for souls instead of the outburst, also would allow for a {Vault of the Archangel}
Maybe {gray merchant of asphodel}? Seems easy to get to 4-5 devotion in this shell.
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on April 07, 2015, 12:27:15 PM
Maybe {gray merchant of asphodel}? Seems easy to get to 4-5 devotion in this shell.
Doesn't sound bad, what do you recommend taking out and what would be a good number of him? I'm thinking a 2 of because other than his ability he's just a blocker that dies to tasi, rhino, loxodon smiter, etc
Probably {knight of infamy}
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on April 07, 2015, 12:41:54 PM
Probably {knight of infamy}
That exalted trigger tho 😝
But you're right late game 8-10 devotion is a game changer if gray falls to the board
I reccommend {mogis, god of slaughter} as at least a one of, as he seems pretty easy to get active with the high devotion.
I might also consider {terminate} as an additional removal spell. You could replace infernal plunge, as I don't see how it helps the deck.
Quote from: Lord of the Flying Guinea-Potatoes on April 07, 2015, 01:48:56 PM
I reccommend {mogis, god of slaughter} as at least a one of, as he seems pretty easy to get active with the high devotion.
I might also consider {terminate} as an additional removal spell. You could replace infernal plunge, as I don't see how it helps the deck.
Plunge to sack tokens for a gouger and haste him with soot dude to create more tokens. The whole purpose is to ramp like wilted Abzan to make big creatures fast and a lot of them. Token generator with sac outlet to create mana is great
Also instead of terminate I'd most likely use dreadbore instead. As Lilianna is definitely a thing
Need everyone's opinion. Who's better, Mogis or Purphoros? The token generator swinging 3 creatures with two ascendency's down would deal 12 damage the instant they hit, Mogis just causes them to maybe sack a creature. Although Mogis does help with one black devotion
Maybe a 1-of {Alesha who Smiles at Death}
Quote from: Munchlax on April 07, 2015, 10:06:05 PM
Maybe a 1-of {Alesha who Smiles at Death}
I've never really seen her as too great of a card... Maybe tho
Oh man! Alesha with gray merchant would be CRAZY
Quote from: Spencer Addington on April 07, 2015, 10:31:03 PM
Oh man! Alesha with gray merchant would be CRAZY
Help me understand what's crazy about it? She helps get the devotion up by 2 the most before she's bolted or pathed, and she kinda strays away from the black/red theme and I've already done that with purphoros
How is recuring gray merchant not awesome?
Quote from: Spencer Addington on April 07, 2015, 10:54:56 PM
How is recuring gray merchant not awesome?
For some reason I was thinking creature with mana cost less than 2 😅
If i added her I'd most likely take out Purphoros and the ascendency's then Main board her and path to exiles, but I kind of enjoy the death by numbers that the mardu ascendency's allow me to do
{Boros Charm} > {Rakdos Charm} IMO.
About your removal,
{Terminate} > {Path to Exile} > {Borehole} IMO. Because {Terminate} is a virtual catch all at 2 mana with upside. It's so good. Path gives your opponent land, which can be a huge deal in modern right now. (Thinking about {Blood Moon}). Sorcery speed is painful. Id maybe run one MB one SB. Idk but I feel like {Path to Exile} is kinda bad rn.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 07, 2015, 11:29:28 PM
{Boros Charm} > {Rakdos Charm} IMO.
About your removal,
{Terminate} > {Path to Exile} > {Borehole} IMO. Because {Terminate} is a virtual catch all at 2 mana with upside. It's so good. Path gives your opponent land, which can be a huge deal in modern right now. (Thinking about {Blood Moon}). Sorcery speed is painful. Id maybe run one MB one SB. Idk but I feel like {Path to Exile} is kinda bad rn.
I've been waiting on your opinion link! I think the main theme of this deck is to rush you head on first and the reasons I have rakdos charms are simple. Twin and token decks. Twin they want to declare 1,000,000 attackers with haste? Hmmm okay rakdos charm you for a million before combat. Same as orzov and bitterblossom tokens, let em get 12 out then double rakdos em.
If I'm gonna keep the main board creature heavy I'll add the Boros charms for sure tho :)
Also, updated it and took out the token generators Purphoros and demigods gauntlets and added one simian, 1 iroas God of victory, 1 Alesha, and 4 paths.
Oh I see. Still feels like a SB or 2 of to me though.
I feel like {Tasigur, the Golden Fang} might deserve a one of. I also feel like Iroas is a tad weak.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 08, 2015, 12:03:13 AM
Oh I see. Still feels like a SB or 2 of to me though.
I feel like {Tasigur, the Golden Fang} might deserve a one of. I also feel like Iroas is a tad weak.
If he drops he'd be great in the mirror for the fact that I can death touch lifelink my creatures where they'd be forced to block at a given point then save all of em with the permanent fog he has as well as they'd be forced to block with two creatures at a time to prevent the damage and with a 6/6 asherwood gouger out you know they're gonna wanna stop that especially if there's two swinging at once
Also forgot to mention bout rakdos charms, they clear out graveyards for those pesky Goyfs ;)
Quote from: Codester1991 on April 08, 2015, 12:05:54 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 08, 2015, 12:03:13 AM
Oh I see. Still feels like a SB or 2 of to me though.
I feel like {Tasigur, the Golden Fang} might deserve a one of. I also feel like Iroas is a tad weak.
If he drops he'd be great in the mirror for the fact that I can death touch lifelink my creatures where they'd be forced to block at a given point then save all of em with the permanent fog he has as well as they'd be forced to block with two creatures at a time to prevent the damage and with a 6/6 asherwood gouger out you know they're gonna wanna stop that especially if there's two swinging at once
It just feels like a bit of a win more to me. Testing may prove me wrong.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 08, 2015, 12:07:28 AM
Quote from: Codester1991 on April 08, 2015, 12:05:54 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 08, 2015, 12:03:13 AM
Oh I see. Still feels like a SB or 2 of to me though.
I feel like {Tasigur, the Golden Fang} might deserve a one of. I also feel like Iroas is a tad weak.
If he drops he'd be great in the mirror for the fact that I can death touch lifelink my creatures where they'd be forced to block at a given point then save all of em with the permanent fog he has as well as they'd be forced to block with two creatures at a time to prevent the damage and with a 6/6 asherwood gouger out you know they're gonna wanna stop that especially if there's two swinging at once
It just feels like a bit of a win more to me. Testing may prove me wrong.
It's all a perfect world scenario the only reason I don't feel like tasigur would be a good fit is his second ability would do nothing for me :/
If anything id throw in a {Gurmag Angler} bigger attack for two more delve
Forgot to mention as well, half the time when someone tries to burn a creature I have or destroy it with another spell I path to exile it in response for mana ramp lol
Picked up 4 Arid Mesa's today Soooo threw them in there for better mana fixes. Let em blood moon me ;) this deck don't have a problem with that one bit lol
So you said Iroas is good in the mirror match. By the looks of this there will never be a mirror match. This seems like a colour shifted Abzan which there aren't a lot of
Quote from: Munchlax on April 08, 2015, 05:45:57 PM
So you said Iroas is good in the mirror match. By the looks of this there will never be a mirror match. This seems like a colour shifted Abzan which there aren't a lot of
I meant against an Abzan deck, I'm so used to playing my own wilted Abzan I got confused when speaking of this my bad lol and i took out iroas, didn't run as well as I planned decided to go back to tokens with Purphoros for mass damage, with the exception of the three drop and one drop(may switch out for {anathemancer} and {vexing devil}) this will be the final draft and I'm gonna start calling it Ashened Mardu 😝
I'd probably crank {aether vial} up to 4. Aether vial is one of those cards you always want in your opener and running 4 helps increase your chances.
True... What should I drop? I'm thinkin more so 3 than four
Just looked at your creature curve again.. You might not even want the vials. Vials want a bunch of 2 drops and like a 3 drop that's really powerful that needs to resolve (true name). You're curve is more of a temp curve than an aether vial curve.
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on April 08, 2015, 08:28:17 PM
Just looked at your creature curve again.. You might not even want the vials. Vials want a bunch of 2 drops and like a 3 drop that's really powerful that needs to resolve (true name). You're curve is more of a temp curve than an aether vial curve.
The reason I want vials is for splinter decks and controlly delvers. Remands, and mana leaks suck. Also, I want to keep my mana open for removal spells and burn or slipping an Alesha in then if they cryptic her flash in something else.. This deck lacks ramp, and that's what I'm using vials for :)
My Aether vials will always stay with 3 or 4 counters because those are the creatures I need to resolve. Ashenmoor Liege, Alesha, and Anathemancer.