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Title: The New Control
Post by: theravenseye on March 03, 2015, 12:09:53 AM
The New Control

60 cards, 15 sideboard


2 {Radiant Fountain}
4 {Temple of Malice}
6 {Mountain}
6 {Swamp}
2 {Bloodfell Caves}
4 {Bloodstained Mire}

24 lands


4 {Stormbreath Dragon}
3 {Merciless Executioner}

7 creatures


3 {Thoughtseize}
3 {Perilous Vault}
4 {Hero's Downfall}
2 {Murderous Cut}
3 {Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker}
3 {Lightning Strike}
2 {Palace Siege}
3 {Read the Bones}
4 {Stoke the Flames}
2 {Crux of Fate}

29 other spells


Sideboard

3 {Drown in Sorrow}
2 {Wild Slash}
1 {Thoughtseize}
2 {Bile Blight}
2 {Arc Lightning}
3 {Anger of the Gods}
2 {Fated Conflagration}

15 sideboard cards


Title: Re: The New Control
Post by: theravenseye on March 03, 2015, 12:10:32 AM
LinkCelestrial
Title: Re: The New Control
Post by: Chargingswadger on March 03, 2015, 08:01:45 AM
Vault over crux?
Title: Re: The New Control
Post by: particle on March 03, 2015, 08:12:49 AM
Quote from: Chargingswadger on March 03, 2015, 08:01:45 AM
Vault over crux?

/both. 4 {lightning strike}s seems like a lot for control.
Title: Re: The New Control
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 03, 2015, 02:12:33 PM
This actually looks quite solid. How has it been doing? I think you might be a little Wincon heavy.
Title: Re: The New Control
Post by: theravenseye on March 03, 2015, 06:02:30 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 03, 2015, 02:12:33 PM
This actually looks quite solid. How has it been doing? I think you might be a little Wincon heavy.

Heheh, still making it.
Title: Re: The New Control
Post by: theravenseye on March 03, 2015, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: Chargingswadger on March 03, 2015, 08:01:45 AM
Vault over crux?

Vault does more than Crux.
Title: Re: The New Control
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 03, 2015, 06:52:49 PM
Quote from: theravenseye on March 03, 2015, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: Chargingswadger on March 03, 2015, 08:01:45 AM
Vault over crux?

Vault does more than Crux.

It's also a turn slower. I'd probably be 3/2 splitting it.
Title: Re: The New Control
Post by: particle on March 03, 2015, 08:12:52 PM
Why 4 lightning strikes? Running UB you have much better removal/answers available to you.
Title: Re: The New Control
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 03, 2015, 08:28:22 PM
Quote from: particle on March 03, 2015, 08:12:52 PM
Why 4 lightning strikes? Running UB you have much better removal/answers available to you.

I'm seriously leaning towards U/W.
Title: Re: The New Control
Post by: theravenseye on March 03, 2015, 11:39:42 PM
Quote from: particle on March 03, 2015, 08:12:52 PM
Why 4 lightning strikes? Running UB you have much better removal/answers available to you.

That's why I posted the the thread Black Red Control in standard. Because I want to see hiw people react.
Title: Re: The New Control
Post by: particle on March 04, 2015, 06:46:37 AM
Quote from: theravenseye on March 03, 2015, 11:39:42 PM
Quote from: particle on March 03, 2015, 08:12:52 PM
Why 4 lightning strikes? Running UB you have much better removal/answers available to you.

That's why I posted the the thread Black Red Control in standard. Because I want to see hiw people react.

I mean even in just black you have better removal in {murderous cut}, {heroes downfall}, even {bile blight} is better. Then you go to blue and get even better options. Why bolt their stuff when you can just prevent it from hitting the field? {dissolve}, {dissipate}, {disdainful stroke}, {nullify}. No real benefit from running 4 strikes. Unless you added a more significant burn package where that could actually turn into the wincon by just burning their face. At this point I'd just go to {thoughtseize}, {disdainful stroke} and {hero's downfall}.  And when I ask you reasoning behind card choices saying it's just to see how people react seems odd. Everything posted on here is to get a reaction from people, but I'm asking why you actually choose strikes not why you posted them here. 
Title: Re: The New Control
Post by: theravenseye on March 06, 2015, 09:22:33 PM
Quote from: particle on March 04, 2015, 06:46:37 AM
Quote from: theravenseye on March 03, 2015, 11:39:42 PM
Quote from: particle on March 03, 2015, 08:12:52 PM
Why 4 lightning strikes? Running UB you have much better removal/answers available to you.

That's why I posted the the thread Black Red Control in standard. Because I want to see hiw people react.

I mean even in just black you have better removal in {murderous cut}, {heroes downfall}, even {bile blight} is better. Then you go to blue and get even better options. Why bolt their stuff when you can just prevent it from hitting the field? {dissolve}, {dissipate}, {disdainful stroke}, {nullify}. No real benefit from running 4 strikes. Unless you added a more significant burn package where that could actually turn into the wincon by just burning their face. At this point I'd just go to {thoughtseize}, {disdainful stroke} and {hero's downfall}.  And when I ask you reasoning behind card choices saying it's just to see how people react seems odd. Everything posted on here is to get a reaction from people, but I'm asking why you actually choose strikes not why you posted them here.

I wanted to try something new. I know that UB has the best answers as of now, but, what if we were toake a new archetype entirely is where I'm coming from. I just wanted your opinions. I got them, with the help of Link, made a list. But for some reason, instead of giving suggestions, and helping make the list a little more cohesive, you guys are just shooting it down with defined archetypes and complaints about the quantity if a certain card. Besides, I went to FNM with this deck yesterday. I went 3-1 losing only to some really fast white deck.
Title: Re: The New Control
Post by: theravenseye on March 06, 2015, 09:24:06 PM
Quote from: particle on March 04, 2015, 06:46:37 AM
Quote from: theravenseye on March 03, 2015, 11:39:42 PM
Quote from: particle on March 03, 2015, 08:12:52 PM
Why 4 lightning strikes? Running UB you have much better removal/answers available to you.

That's why I posted the the thread Black Red Control in standard. Because I want to see hiw people react.

I mean even in just black you have better removal in {murderous cut}, {heroes downfall}, even {bile blight} is better. Then you go to blue and get even better options. Why bolt their stuff when you can just prevent it from hitting the field? {dissolve}, {dissipate}, {disdainful stroke}, {nullify}. No real benefit from running 4 strikes. Unless you added a more significant burn package where that could actually turn into the wincon by just burning their face. At this point I'd just go to {thoughtseize}, {disdainful stroke} and {hero's downfall}.  And when I ask you reasoning behind card choices saying it's just to see how people react seems odd. Everything posted on here is to get a reaction from people, but I'm asking why you actually choose strikes not why you posted them here.

And I chose strikes because it has already defined itself as a key card in at least 70% of the standard metagame.