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Title: 1 drop burn
Post by: AdamS on December 07, 2014, 06:00:06 PM

1 drop burn

60 cards, 0 sideboard


20 {Mountain}

20 lands


4 {Goblin Guide}
4 {Eidolon of the Great Revel}
4 {Vexing Devil}
4 {Monastery Swiftspear}

16 creatures


4 {Pillar of Flame}
4 {Rift Bolt}
4 {Lightning Bolt}
4 {Chain Lightning}
4 {Lava Spike}
4 {Burst Lightning}

24 other spells


Sideboard
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: AdamS on December 07, 2014, 06:02:04 PM
this is really my first legacy deck  so any help is welcome. this consistantly wins by t4-t6 depending on my hand
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: yugornot on December 07, 2014, 06:16:09 PM
Needs more {Rift Bolt} and creatures like {Goblim Guide}.
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on December 07, 2014, 06:20:56 PM
Needs more {Fireblast}
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: Munchlax on December 07, 2014, 06:50:10 PM
Needs more {Taylor Swiftspear}
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: AdamS on December 07, 2014, 07:06:46 PM
what should i drop for those
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: Falcon182 on December 07, 2014, 07:08:47 PM
Uhhh...  Drop anything that only does 2 dmg and replace it with  {Goblin Guide},  {Eidolon of the Great Revel}
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: Falcon182 on December 07, 2014, 07:10:32 PM
 {Rift Bolt}
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: AdamS on December 07, 2014, 07:12:57 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on December 07, 2014, 07:08:47 PM
Uhhh...  Drop anything that only does 2 dmg and replace it with  {Goblin Guide},  {Eidolon of the Great Revel}
wouldnt eidolon end up killing me faster then the opponent
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: Ekann1 on December 07, 2014, 07:25:14 PM
Quote from: AdamS on December 07, 2014, 07:12:57 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on December 07, 2014, 07:08:47 PM
Uhhh...  Drop anything that only does 2 dmg and replace it with  {Goblin Guide},  {Eidolon of the Great Revel}
wouldnt eidolon end up killing me faster then the opponent
No, because 3 damage to them (from your bolt) kills the them faster than 2 damage to you per bolt if things are working well.
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: AdamS on December 07, 2014, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on December 07, 2014, 07:25:14 PM
Quote from: AdamS on December 07, 2014, 07:12:57 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on December 07, 2014, 07:08:47 PM
Uhhh...  Drop anything that only does 2 dmg and replace it with  {Goblin Guide},  {Eidolon of the Great Revel}
wouldnt eidolon end up killing me faster then the opponent
No, because 3 damage to them (from your bolt) kills the them faster than 2 damage to you per bolt if things are working well.
true but if i cast a bolt to kill a creature to keep myself alive then i would kill myself i dont think i want to risk it
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: Falcon182 on December 07, 2014, 07:41:49 PM
You put a 2/2 on a clear board and they either have to take 2 dmg to get rid of it or they take 2 dmg per turn from attacks. It's effective.
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: cltrn81 on December 07, 2014, 09:17:47 PM
I run Eidelon in my burn and it is one of the best cards I ever added.  Think of it this way.....you typically jump out to a huge start of bolting them and what not very early and your life total may be 18 while theirs is maybe 10-12......then you drop this Eidelon and he helps you race.  If they do not get rid of it....then you get a free {shock} each time they play under 4 CMC
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: the_intelligentleman on December 07, 2014, 10:18:27 PM
Needs more {Flame Slash}
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: Kaalia with haste on December 07, 2014, 10:41:54 PM
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on December 07, 2014, 10:18:27 PM
Needs more {Flame Slash}
Only to creatures though. Just play {vexing devil}
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: AdamS on December 08, 2014, 02:09:45 AM
update with sugestions
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: AdamS on December 08, 2014, 02:11:25 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on December 07, 2014, 06:20:56 PM
Needs more {Fireblast}
i like the free spell but i dont like sacing lands for it, and it cost to much on its own imo
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on December 08, 2014, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: AdamS on December 08, 2014, 02:11:25 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on December 07, 2014, 06:20:56 PM
Needs more {Fireblast}
i like the free spell but i dont like sacing lands for it, and it cost to much on its own imo
Who uses lands these days?
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: LinkCelestrial on December 08, 2014, 01:59:25 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on December 08, 2014, 05:46:01 AM
Also, there is a lot of {Chalice of the Void} on 1 going about, you might not want to run a deck that can't beat it.

Or sideboard {Shatter} if it becomes a problem.
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: Mattao19 on December 08, 2014, 02:49:34 PM
http://www.mtgtop8.com/archetype?a=20&meta=39&f=LE

Go nuts!

And to be fair sacking lands for 4 damage is amazing
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: NyghtHawk on December 16, 2014, 10:42:25 PM
Quote from: AdamS on December 08, 2014, 02:11:25 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on December 07, 2014, 06:20:56 PM
Needs more {Fireblast}
i like the free spell but i dont like sacing lands for it, and it cost to much on its own imo
{Fireblast} is a must. Too nasty.
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: Ejazz00 on January 11, 2015, 01:22:37 AM
Too land heavy for Red Deck Wins in my option. Burn is my favorite in all formats. Especially since you are doing 1 drops try cutting 2-3 mountains. Also have you thought about adding  {Arid Mesa} ?
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: AdamS on January 11, 2015, 07:19:07 AM
Quote from: Ejazz00 on January 11, 2015, 01:22:37 AM
Also have you thought about adding  {Arid Mesa} ?
what is the point of mesa, if i could just drop a mountain with out paying 1 life, if i had white in the deck it would be more useful but, a mono red with all basics doesnt need a land that finds another land.
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: NyghtHawk on January 11, 2015, 08:28:37 AM
Quote from: AdamS on January 11, 2015, 07:19:07 AM
Quote from: Ejazz00 on January 11, 2015, 01:22:37 AM
Also have you thought about adding  {Arid Mesa} ?
what is the point of mesa, if i could just drop a mountain with out paying 1 life, if i had white in the deck it would be more useful but, a mono red with all basics doesnt need a land that finds another land.
It's to thin out your deck so you have a better chance to draw spells and not blanks in lands. It's smart.
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: griffin131 on January 11, 2015, 10:42:10 AM
Quote from: NyghtHawk on January 11, 2015, 08:28:37 AM
Quote from: AdamS on January 11, 2015, 07:19:07 AM
Quote from: Ejazz00 on January 11, 2015, 01:22:37 AM
Also have you thought about adding  {Arid Mesa} ?
what is the point of mesa, if i could just drop a mountain with out paying 1 life, if i had white in the deck it would be more useful but, a mono red with all basics doesnt need a land that finds another land.
It's to thin out your deck so you have a better chance to draw spells and not blanks in lands. It's smart.
Using fetches solely for deck thinning is really effective.

Edit:  I meant isn't. Posting with a 5 year old climbing over you is tough.
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: Mattao19 on January 11, 2015, 10:45:19 AM
Some math genius did an experiment and determined deck thinning wasn't all that worth it :P but having said that I always liked it bc just shuffling your deck can be really useful sometimes
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: Ejazz00 on January 11, 2015, 01:22:21 PM
As others have posted. It's strictly for thinning the deck. Because let's say they have 6 life and you only have one burn in your hand. Do you want draw another land or want draw your last burn card?
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: Dmreiss on January 11, 2015, 02:43:30 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on December 07, 2014, 09:17:47 PM
I run Eidelon in my burn and it is one of the best cards I ever added.  Think of it this way.....you typically jump out to a huge start of bolting them and what not very early and your life total may be 18 while theirs is maybe 10-12......then you drop this Eidelon and he helps you race.  If they do not get rid of it....then you get a free {shock} each time they play under 4 CMC
Legacy is also almost all 3 CMC or less as well.  No matter what they play, they are going to be taking damage.
Title: Re: 1 drop burn
Post by: MuggyWuggy on January 11, 2015, 03:07:31 PM
New lightning bolt + eidolon

EoOT: sac eidolon for cost, bolt bolt, next turn, play some burn, cast another eidolon, leave 2 mana open again for a repeat