Republicans have regained control of the senate. :D
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 12:34:02 AM
Republicans have regained control of the senate. :D
Isn't that the truth. My state turned Republican overnite.
Trivia question time: in what month are the President and Vice-President of the United States actually elected?
Idek bro nothing gets done anyways because of them
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 10:25:20 AM
The elections are in November, the final count comes in December and they are inaugurated in January.
Close... So close...
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 11:15:23 AM
Did you want me to include preliminaries?
Nope. Just the month the actual President and Vice-President Elections are.
The whole blue vs red team is the stupidest con that has been working for such a long time on the general public, preventing any true progress
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 05, 2014, 01:59:42 PM
The whole blue vs red team is the stupidest con that has been working for such a long time on the general public, preventing any true progress
This. So many people believe idiotic things because that's, "what their party says." It's okay to have party affiliations, but you still have to have your own brain.
As for Taysby: it is a well known fact that Republicans do very well in midterms, but during Presidential elections Democrats triple their voter turn-out.
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 11:33:13 AM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on November 05, 2014, 10:49:24 AM
Idek bro nothing gets done anyways because of them
The democrats have been stopping all republican bills also. It's a two way street.
As if you guys tried to make bills that weren't made solely to screw over Obama and his fans. (With maybe a few exceptions)
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 03:18:48 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on November 05, 2014, 03:11:37 PM
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 11:33:13 AM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on November 05, 2014, 10:49:24 AM
Idek bro nothing gets done anyways because of them
The democrats have been stopping all republican bills also. It's a two way street.
As if you guys tried to make bills that weren't made solely to screw over Obama and his fans. (With maybe a few exceptions)
Source?
Really?!?! Here's an example: The Republicans tried postponing the Affordable Healthcare Act's "penalties on companies who failed to provide health care coverage for their employees" and when they couldn't do it in sufficient time, Obama used an executive order to get it done. So then, Boehner brought a lawsuit against Obama for doing what the Republicans themselves were trying to do. THE NEXT DAY after filing suit, the Republicans asked Obama to do the same thing he was being sued for with an immigration bill. Even the conservative justices on the Supreme Court saw this as a ridiculous political stunt. If you honestly believe that the Republicans haven't been douches just for the sake of being douches, you're an idiot.
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 03:53:30 PM
And you're an .rearexit. to jump right to thinking that I don't know what's going on and that I'm an idiot.
When you say idiotic things, it makes you look like an idiot....
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 03:53:30 PM
He was insinuating that that was what republicans were mostly doing. I disagree with that.
Saying, "well they don't spend every waking moment trying to screw Obama," doesn't make it better. They should be serving the people that elected them, not acting like .rearexit.s
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 03:53:30 PM
And he was also insinuating that the democrats weren't doing the same things or overstepping what they should be doing.
There is some, but not nearly at the same level. Bush saw some resistance and was made fun of quite often, but he never saw the level of spite.
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 03:53:30 PM
I wanted the link that showed the comparison of actual lawS to filibuster type things.
Try using words and I might be able to help you. Are you asking how many bills were filibustered?
Wow. this turned into something else entirely lol
Usually does with Taysby and .politics. :P it's always a fun read :D I'm Canadian so I can't contribute as much but I'm a Conservative here so my allegiance is mostly with the Republicans but tbh I don't follow US Govt at all
Being conservative with political ideas does not make you a republican and liberal ideas do not make you a democrat
Simply a label for a division.
I know I mean that on the political spectrum I'm on the right side of things (makes me right, right? Lol)
Just making sure you don't summarize yourself incorrectly :P
People think I'm a democrat because of my liberal ideas, but never consider my conservative stance on government influence on local life or gun control (aiming)
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 05:19:22 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 05, 2014, 04:01:05 PM
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 03:53:30 PM
And you're an .rearexit. to jump right to thinking that I don't know what's going on and that I'm an idiot.
When you say idiotic things, it makes you look like an idiot....
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 03:53:30 PM
He was insinuating that that was what republicans were mostly doing. I disagree with that.
Saying, "well they don't spend every waking moment trying to screw Obama," doesn't make it better. They should be serving the people that elected them, not acting like .rearexit.s
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 03:53:30 PM
And he was also insinuating that the democrats weren't doing the same things or overstepping what they should be doing.
There is some, but not nearly at the same level. Bush saw some resistance and was made fun of quite often, but he never saw the level of spite.
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 03:53:30 PM
I wanted the link that showed the comparison of actual lawS to filibuster type things.
Try using words and I might be able to help you. Are you asking how many bills were filibustered?
Asking for a source of "almost everything they do is just to give the democrats a hard time" is idiotic
My point was they did it rarely, and for somewhat of a good reason, even if it could have been solved better a different way
The ratio of real laws to whatever the heck you want to call the "corruption", and you you have any idea of how confessing you are?
Do you really think republicans rarely tried to stop something just because Obama endorsed it? Take a look at quality core.
Quote from: rarehuntertay on November 05, 2014, 04:32:16 PM
Wow. this turned into something else entirely lol
Yep it does. I have to give taysby credit he doesn't back down. Even when he is in the minority.
I just vote for whoever I think is right for the job. Obama is poo, the elephants and asses are poo, the commies are just stupid, Rand Paul is okay but borderline insane, and the majority of people(This is a guess, no "source?" pls) don't like to make informed decisions and then complain when times are tough, failing to realize that good times breed weak people which heeds bad times which breeds good people and heeds good times.
But, I digress. I did vote as a registered voter yesterday though. I'm a real adult now!
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 05:37:46 PM
For the sole reason that Obama endorsed it, 0.
Let's take a look at quality core?
All I know is that I met Jarad Huffman for Boy Scouts last Monday :P
Sounds sketchy
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on November 05, 2014, 07:36:40 PM
Sounds sketchy
:P
It was a whole big meeting thing. As far as I know, Jared Huffman is not s child molester.
Quote from: Taysby on November 06, 2014, 12:29:40 AM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on November 05, 2014, 07:07:55 PM
Quote from: Taysby on November 05, 2014, 05:37:46 PM
For the sole reason that Obama endorsed it, 0.
Let's take a look at quality core?
Hah. That one size fits all program that teachers hate.
Just because Obama endorsed it, right...
-it was a generally appreciated system by everyone
-Obama said he liked it
-republicans INSTANTLY start hating on it for total bullshit reasons
Wasn't there at least one instance where a bunch of republics flat out said they wouldn't bass a bill just because Obama wanted it to pass? I remember something like that happening.
I'm pretty sure there's an email or soundbite out there of Mitch McConnell explicitly stating that his party was to do everything they could to obstruct anything the Pres tries to get passed. People sometimes say that Obama may go down as one of the worst presidents on history, but fail to remember that he's only failing to get things done because the opposition is so steadfast in making sure he CAN'T get things done.
My last thought for those on the Right wing, and then I'll bow out (since political discussions are never fun for me) - He's the frickin president. He got elected. Twice. Stop being so butthurt over the fact that you lost. We have an intelligent, moral, charismatic leader that many other countries would be overjoyed to have leading them, but lingering racism and butthurt from the incredibly selfish right stop him from showing his potential.
Historically; Obama is not the worst president. He's accomplished a ton.
I'd say the worst is the pres is Buchanan, he couldn't deal with the Slavery crisis and the South succeeded from the north. Basically dividing our country in two.
Also GW Bush is a high ranking for worst president ever:
Iraq occupation part 2
Unable to capture bin laden
Katrina
Basically the loss of our economic standing, wasting money by feeding it to Halliburton.
Oh yes...
FORGOT ABOUT MEMO FROM CLINTON ADMIN ABOUT IMMINENT AL QAEDA ATTACK
Quote from: Taysby on November 06, 2014, 11:35:24 AM
1. His skin color has nothing to do with it
2. Degrees do not an intelligent person make. It seems as if he has no idea what a budget is...
3. Incredibly selfish? What?
He's failing to get things done because the republicans are crunching the numbers and find that his ideas do not work. A lot of things he proposes would be good if they actually worked, but they require going into more and more debt.
Doesn't the congress make the budget? Aren't most of his ideas good? Could Romney be better? If you said yes,yes,no, you would be correct.
Quote from: Taysby on November 06, 2014, 01:44:39 PM
He proposes an idea and his answer is always raise taxes or increase our national debt. Obamacare, raise taxes and go into debt for example.
They would be good if they were feasible, but when taxes are currently being raised and america going into more and more debt, they just don't work.
Romney would have done what he could without raising taxes or going into more debt, but that is not what is being discussed.
-thinking obamacare was the original idea and not a good idea fracked* by Congress
-thinking Romney wouldn't have raised debt or taxes and that'd he be good
Why are you here? ;)
And it does pertain. You have to compare him to other presidential possibilities.
Quote from: Taysby on November 06, 2014, 03:04:55 PM
Ignoring those comments for now, you're totally the person to go to for political discussions. :P
Remember this?
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on October 22, 2014, 08:17:38 PM
Quote from: Taysby on October 22, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
Think before you speak. Try google. Here's a link. Www.google.com
Yeah. "Define liberal" does not fit you.
I'm pretty sure that you're not a liberal...
And I'm pretty sure that I can make rational arguments in political debates.
Full grown elections are very important to the survival of our species
Quote from: Taysby on November 06, 2014, 04:30:49 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on November 06, 2014, 03:09:49 PM
Quote from: Taysby on November 06, 2014, 03:04:55 PM
Ignoring those comments for now, you're totally the person to go to for political discussions. :P
Remember this?
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on October 22, 2014, 08:17:38 PM
Quote from: Taysby on October 22, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
Think before you speak. Try google. Here's a link. Www.google.com
Yeah. "Define liberal" does not fit you.
I'm pretty sure that you're not a liberal...
And I'm pretty sure that I can make rational arguments in political debates.
Says the person that doesn't know what a libertarian is. That is very basic stuff...
Thing before you speak, right? I know pretty well what a libertarian is.
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on November 06, 2014, 04:47:53 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 06, 2014, 04:46:20 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on November 06, 2014, 04:42:04 PM
Thing before you speak, right?
I'm sorry, but this is gold.
So how bad exactly did I .love. up?
Lol, you're good, it happens. Thanks for carrying the torch against Taysby, I had to prepare for a We the People speech, we are going to States!
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 06, 2014, 04:51:43 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on November 06, 2014, 04:47:53 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 06, 2014, 04:46:20 PM
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on November 06, 2014, 04:42:04 PM
Thing before you speak, right?
I'm sorry, but this is gold.
So how bad exactly did I .love. up?
Lol, you're good, it happens. Thanks for carrying the torch against Taysby, I had to prepare for a We the People speech, we are going to States!
Congrats.
This community is just full of love!
The problem is that both parties stances look pretty on the exterior.
And the stances both, for all intents and purposes, are for the benefit of the majority (according to their ideals)
But in actual functionality and what gets written into law, with all the side deals, and pandering, you scratch our back we scratch yours. Self importance and corruption.
What actually goes on is only barely what the surface shows. There are people on both sides of the spectrum that are good people and plenty others that are bad. When it comes down to it, you just have to study and look for those who are true to their ideals.
Not a politician that's been a X for 30 years and then all of a sudden changes to a Y just to get votes because of a shift in .politics..
If everything worked like it sounded regardless of something taken something given (nothing nothing nothing is ever free, you either give up your personal freedoms or you pay for someone else's.) Everyone knows we need reform on all levels and there's tons of places that need an influx of funds (healthcare, welfare, social security, unemployment) sure whatever be it needed, it has to come from somewhere and it ain't coming from the government themselves, lest they give up the golden toilet seats they all use.
As long as we plan to continue to raise wages and distribute wealth, just realize that it isn't really coming to the top, and it isn't an immediate solution but eventually the bottom will fall out.
I'm not screaming liberals Obama and democrats.
But if you want to see functioning communism, just let things keep going the way they are.
And that does not mean in the totalitarian dictatorship sense, but you just have to follow the money, taxes taxes taxes.
Bleed the wealth dry until the lower class rises to the middle and put a ceiling on it because there won't be any money left to raise any more.