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Title: Burn The World
Post by: Gorzo on September 10, 2014, 05:06:24 AM

Burn The World

101 cards, 0 sideboard


1 {Tahngarth, Talruum Hero}
26 {Mountain}
1 {Temple of the False God}
1 {Rogue's Passage}
1 {Opal Palace}
1 {Kher Keep}
1 {Madblind Mountain}
1 {Teetering Peaks}
1 {Forgotten Cave}
1 {Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle}

34 lands


1 {Spawn of Thraxes}
1 {Magmatic Force}
1 {Akki Lavarunner}
1 {Hammerfist Giant}
1 {Obsidian Fireheart}
1 {Ashling the Pilgrim}
1 {Warmonger}
1 {Molten Primordial}
1 {Magma Phoenix}
1 {Fire Servant}
1 {Stuffy Doll}
1 {Bearer of the Heavens}
1 {Charmbreaker Devils}
1 {Soul of Shandalar}
1 {Inferno Titan}
1 {Heartless Hidetsugu}
1 {Guttersnipe}

17 creatures


1 {Slagstorm}
1 {Chandra, the Firebrand}
1 {Swiftfoot Boots}
1 {Mana Geyser}
1 {Chandra Nalaar}
1 {Fork}
1 {Loxodon Warhammer}
1 {Tempt with Vengeance}
1 {Increasing Vengeance}
1 {Fault Line}
1 {Furnace of Rath}
1 {Darksteel Plate}
1 {Basilisk Collar}
1 {Haunted Plate Mail}
1 {Vandalblast}
1 {Red Sun's Zenith}
1 {Koth of the Hammer}
1 {Sulfurous Blast}
1 {Bonfire of the Damned}
1 {Sizzle}
1 {Pyrohemia}
1 {Flamebreak}
1 {Acidic Soil}
1 {Sol Ring}
1 {Fireball}
1 {Blood Moon}
1 {Flame Rift}
1 {Howl of the Horde}
1 {Kaboom!}
1 {Batterskull}
1 {Starstorm}
1 {Champion's Helm}
1 {Sword of War and Peace}
1 {Argentum Armor}
1 {Curse of Bloodletting}
1 {Magebane Armor}
1 {Titan's Revenge}
1 {Molten Disaster}
1 {Comet Storm}
1 {Reverberate}
1 {Volcanic Fallout}
1 {Blasphemous Act}
1 {Crater's Claws}
1 {Dictate of the Twin Gods}
1 {Breath of Darigaaz}
1 {Earthquake}
1 {Incendiary Command}
1 {Strandwalker}
1 {Quest for Pure Flame}

49 other spells


Sideboard

Notes:
Tahngarth plays the role of Mighty Sürt, in this deck with the theme of burning the world. None shall stand before him and survive. The end is nigh.
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Gorzo on September 10, 2014, 05:07:46 AM
Now that my Sydri project is complete, It's time for the next thing! I'm getting close to finishing this one, could use some tips or suggestions to make the final cuts, or anything important I may have missed :)
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: AdamS on September 10, 2014, 10:18:22 PM
no {stuffy doll} ?? that has some great synergy with your commander
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Gorzo on September 10, 2014, 10:40:39 PM
Quote from: AdamS on September 10, 2014, 10:18:22 PM
no {stuffy doll} ?? that has some great synergy with your commander

Ooh, that does sunergize perfectly with my deck! Must add! Thanks!

Any idea what my best cut options are? I need 6 cuts now, and I'm stumped (as always at this point lol)
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: rarehuntertay on September 10, 2014, 11:56:20 PM
Unfortunately, the best flavor card for this deck is banned...  {Worldfire} 😞
However, any of the arts for  {Pillage} would work
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Gorzo on September 11, 2014, 03:45:01 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 10, 2014, 11:56:20 PM
Unfortunately, the best flavor card for this deck is banned...  {Worldfire} 😞
However, any of the arts for  {Pillage} would work

Yeah, Worldfire would fit the theme perfectly, but it does deserve the ban lol.

Pillage might be nice. Always good to be able to remove pesky lands and artifacts. For that matter, I should have {Vandalblast} in here, too.

And why the hell don't I have {Sol Ring} in there? What's wrong with me? Fixing that immediately.

Gah, I'm supposed to be cutting, and I just added 3 more cards lol
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Gorzo on September 14, 2014, 01:22:52 PM
Really having a hard time with these last 4 cuts. Considering cutting {Bloodfire Colossus} even though he fits the theme so perfectly since he's effectively 9 mana (need to leave 1 open for his ability at any given time).

I feel like I need all of the equipment... Except maybe {grappling hook}? It's a lot of mana and doesn't help Tahngarth in his non-combat fights, though it makes him so much more brutal in combat. As much as I've been wanting to find a home for this card, does it not make the cut?
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: AdamS on September 14, 2014, 01:40:27 PM
maybe cut  {Tok-Tok, Volcano Born} the extra 1 dammage isnt that great imo compared to the other stuff in here
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: AdamS on September 14, 2014, 01:45:40 PM
and maybe {Warmonger} because your opponents can use its ability and that can be really bad for you if your opponent just taps all his mana the turn after he drops a {Avacyn, Angel of Hope} and he can wipe everyones field but his so its more of a risk then a benefit
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Gorzo on September 14, 2014, 05:08:26 PM
Hmm... I feel like I need to keep Tok-Tok, the extra ping per source should add up pretty quick in this deck, plus his protection from red makes him immune to all of the {Earthquake} and global damage effects in my deck. And with the numerous damage doubling effects in the decks, that extra 1 can easily become an extra 2, 4, even 8 or 16 per source.

I do see your point with Warmonget, it's definitely a risky card. But it's also a political card, and if given {Darksteel Armor} or {Magebane Armor}, he's an endless torrent of flames. Even better when given lifelink. Or lifelink with {Batterskull} or {Loxodon Warhammer}, or Lifelink + Deathtouch with {Basilisk Collar}. I feel like the possible combo of Magebane/Darksteel + lifelink with him is too good to let him get cut.
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: MommaB on September 14, 2014, 07:21:18 PM
With all the damage why not a  {Satyr Firedancer} just to create more lol
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: particle on September 14, 2014, 08:20:50 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on September 14, 2014, 05:08:26 PM
Hmm... I feel like I need to keep Tok-Tok, the extra ping per source should add up pretty quick in this deck, plus his protection from red makes him immune to all of the {Earthquake} and global damage effects in my deck. And with the numerous damage doubling effects in the decks, that extra 1 can easily become an extra 2, 4, even 8 or 16 per source.

I do see your point with Warmonget, it's definitely a risky card. But it's also a political card, and if given {Darksteel Armor} or {Magebane Armor}, he's an endless torrent of flames. Even better when given lifelink. Or lifelink with {Batterskull} or {Loxodon Warhammer}, or Lifelink + Deathtouch with {Basilisk Collar}. I feel like the possible combo of Magebane/Darksteel + lifelink with him is too good to let him get cut.

do you mean {darksteel plate}? cause idk what {darksteel armor} is.
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Gorzo on September 15, 2014, 01:37:18 AM
Yeah, I meant {Darksteel Plate}, sorry :P

Quote from: MommaB on September 14, 2014, 07:21:18 PM
With all the damage why not a  {Satyr Firedancer} just to create more lol

Lol that is pretty funny. It would die from whatever spell I cast (unless I put Magebane or Darksteel on it) but even if it dies, that next-turn {Earthquake} would be devastating... If I can find room, I'll add it! I'm struggling so hard with these cuts though... Gah!
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Gocougs509 on September 15, 2014, 08:06:50 PM
I'm not a big fan of {avatar of slaughter}...Unless there's something I'm missing with him I think you can afford to cut him :p
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: LinkCelestrial on September 16, 2014, 12:43:07 AM
{Pyromancer's Gauntlets}? Stack your triggers and that could be a nuts bonus. {Heartless Hidgetsu}? Or is he in there already?

I truely dislike {Avatar of Slaughter}. I say cut.

{Swiftfoot Boots} maybe? How much does hexproof matter when you're AoEing everything?

Edit: if you do {Pyromancer's Gauntlets} you can cut things that don't work with it.
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Gorzo on September 16, 2014, 05:25:02 AM
Heartless is in there :) he's an alternate general for the deck

I suppose Avatar if Slaughter isn't necessary. I like it, giving my vigilant commander double strike seems really good, but 8 mana and the downside if giving all my opponents' creatures double strike, too... Yeah, I think I can make that cut. Many thanks!

I do like {Pyromancer's Gauntlet} but I'm a bit put off by it's mana cost of 5 and it doing nothing until I cast an instant or sorcery. I'm not sure I can fit it in. Maybe if I can make another cut, but I still need one more cut and I don't see anything I'd want the gauntlet more than.

The swiftfoot boots I need to keep - hexproof keeps my crazy effect guys safe, and the haste is possibly even more important.
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: griffin131 on September 16, 2014, 08:00:52 AM
I know you're trying to make cuts, but {Shrine of Burning Rage} seems like it'd have a place.
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Gorzo on September 16, 2014, 11:31:17 AM
Quote from: griffin131 on September 16, 2014, 08:00:52 AM
I know you're trying to make cuts, but {Shrine of Burning Rage} seems like it'd have a place.

Hmm... It kinda does, doesn't it? :P I'll try to to fit it in.
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: blackychan1 on September 16, 2014, 03:15:32 PM
I feel like the +1 damage that tok-tok gives isn't very nessesary....
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Gorzo on September 16, 2014, 06:27:30 PM
But he's so adorable! :P

Actually, the reasons I like Tokky too much to cut are:
- He increases damage from all red sources (not just instants/sorceries), so he makes Tahngarth, Hidetsugu, Inferno Titan, Pyrohemia... All creatures and activated abilities become much more potent!
- He has protection from red, so I don't have to worry about him while I'm hurling around Earthquakes. He can even even sneak in an attack for 3 after a fiery board wipe!
- With all the {Furnace of Rath} type effects, those pings can easily turn from 1's to 4's or more, and that's a big deal!
- Seriously, look at that little gobbie face. So freakin cute! With his little rock on a stick, what a little troublemaker!
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Munchlax on September 16, 2014, 07:49:15 PM
{Bearer of the heavens} is really good for flavour and just generally
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Gorzo on September 17, 2014, 06:00:24 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on September 16, 2014, 07:49:15 PM
{Bearer of the heavens} is really good for flavour and just generally

Yeah... Yeah it is. Damnit, now I'll need another cut lol
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Gocougs509 on September 17, 2014, 06:16:30 AM
You can probably lose {savage beating} since you only have 16 creatures including your general :p
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Gorzo on September 17, 2014, 12:04:06 PM
Probably... I really don't want to, but I think you're right. And I need to accept that any cut at this stage of the game is going to hurt.
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 17, 2014, 12:25:03 PM
I may be blind, and just haven't seen it, but {Sulfuric Vortex}?
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Gorzo on September 17, 2014, 03:58:24 PM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 17, 2014, 12:25:03 PM
I may be blind, and just haven't seen it, but {Sulfuric Vortex}?

I had to cut it - if I don't gain life with my equipment, I'll die, too :P
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Gorzo on October 25, 2014, 09:15:41 PM
Bump - this has been driving me batty for a month now. I need a single cut and I can start acquiring the cards to finish this deck, but can't decide which one to cut. I think I have it narrowed down to one of these three:

• a {mountain}. Is 33 lands viable? I mean, it's a mono colored deck after all, but still, I worry about cutting another land.
• {Slagwurm Armor}. It helps my non-flying creatures survive the earthquakes, so I do want it... But is it worth the slot?
• {Strandwalker}. My answer to flying, mostly... 4 toughness is helpful for surviving earthquake effects as well. But it is mana-costly. Do I just say "screw it, flyers will just hit me," and cut this situational equipment?
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: LinkCelestrial on October 25, 2014, 09:29:48 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on October 25, 2014, 09:15:41 PM
Bump - this has been driving me batty for a month now. I need a single cut and I can start acquiring the cards to finish this deck, but can't decide which one to cut. I think I have it narrowed down to one of these three:

• a {mountain}. Is 33 lands viable? I mean, it's a mono colored deck after all, but still, I worry about cutting another land.
• {Slagwurm Armor}. It helps my non-flying creatures survive the earthquakes, so I do want it... But is it worth the slot?
• {Strandwalker}. My answer to flying, mostly... 4 toughness is helpful for surviving earthquake effects as well. But it is mana-costly. Do I just say "screw it, flyers will just hit me," and cut this situational equipment?

My vote goes to {Slagwurm Armor}. +0/+6 is not burning the world. {Strandwalker} is keep cause flying is annoying. Land is keep cause mana screw sucks.
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Mattacheu on October 27, 2014, 04:31:44 AM
{Obsidian fireheart} maybe as well?
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Gorzo on October 27, 2014, 09:30:50 AM
Quote from: Mattacheu on October 27, 2014, 04:31:44 AM
{Obsidian fireheart} maybe as well?

I do like that... That would mean needing another cut though. Assuming I cut Slagwurm armor already, what should I cut to fit Fireheart in?
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: AdamS on October 27, 2014, 01:23:08 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on October 25, 2014, 09:15:41 PM
Bump - this has been driving me batty for a month now. I need a single cut and I can start acquiring the cards to finish this deck, but can't decide which one to cut. I think I have it narrowed down to one of these three:

• a {mountain}. Is 33 lands viable? I mean, it's a mono colored deck after all, but still, I worry about cutting another land.
• {Slagwurm Armor}. It helps my non-flying creatures survive the earthquakes, so I do want it... But is it worth the slot?
• {Strandwalker}. My answer to flying, mostly... 4 toughness is helpful for surviving earthquake effects as well. But it is mana-costly. Do I just say "screw it, flyers will just hit me," and cut this situational equipment?
yes 33 is more than enough i run 30 in every deck i build no matter how many colors it is and i never have a problem with my play speed
Title: Re: Burn The World
Post by: Mattacheu on October 27, 2014, 05:52:06 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on October 27, 2014, 09:30:50 AM
Quote from: Mattacheu on October 27, 2014, 04:31:44 AM
{Obsidian fireheart} maybe as well?

I do like that... That would mean needing another cut though. Assuming I cut Slagwurm armor already, what should I cut to fit Fireheart in?
I say Strandwalker. You have enough cards in here where if fliers get out of control, you have cards which get rid of them, or everything depending on board state.