Muwahaha i am so evil
I had jace memory adept on the battlefield and did his last ability on me and my friend. In my hand among other stuff got a card with graft and tibalt. I played tibalt then the creature with graft, got him to 4 loyalty counters and then did his second ability doing 24 damage with 5 mana.
Graft only applies to +1/+1 counters. Loyalty counters on planeswalkers are not the same. You cannot graft counters onto tibalt
and graft affects the creature coming into play after the graft creature is in play
lol
{Aquastrand Spider}
Graft can only be moved to a creature:)
{Jace, Memory Adept}
{Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded}
So this does not work..
You could graft onto {Gideon, Champion of justice} in creature mode right?
Quote from: Splicer on June 03, 2014, 10:58:27 PM
You could graft onto {Gideon, Champion of justice} in creature mode right?
Sure, if you could somehow get him to enter as a creature. When a permanent becomes a creature, it's not entering the battlefield, so it won't trigger things like Graft. Now, if you somehow got it to happen ({Mycosynth Lattice} + {March of the Machines}, for instance), you could graft the counters, but they're still just +1/+1 counters, so they'll only buff him while he's a creature.
Quote from: Splicer on June 03, 2014, 10:58:27 PM
You could graft onto {Gideon, Champion of justice} in creature mode right?
No, because graft is an etb ability:)
Why not then? He stays a creature until end of turn, summon your graft in the second main phase.
graft states that the creature enters the battlefield wirh x counters. then when another creature enters the battlefied you can move a counter. there is no way to play the creature with graft after the first creature and still get a counter on it.
Quote from: AdamS on June 04, 2014, 08:30:04 AM
graft states that the creature enters the battlefield wirh x counters. then when another creature enters the battlefied you can move a counter. there is no way to play the creature with graft after the first creature and still get a counter on it.
haha not without a {giant fan}.
Quote from: particle on June 04, 2014, 09:46:45 AM
Quote from: AdamS on June 04, 2014, 08:30:04 AM
graft states that the creature enters the battlefield wirh x counters. then when another creature enters the battlefied you can move a counter. there is no way to play the creature with graft after the first creature and still get a counter on it.
haha not without a {giant fan}.
I think that should be a legitimate non-joke card actually
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on June 04, 2014, 04:33:47 PM
Quote from: particle on June 04, 2014, 09:46:45 AM
Quote from: AdamS on June 04, 2014, 08:30:04 AM
graft states that the creature enters the battlefield wirh x counters. then when another creature enters the battlefied you can move a counter. there is no way to play the creature with graft after the first creature and still get a counter on it.
haha not without a {giant fan}.
I think that should be a legitimate non-joke card actually
There are cards that do what Giant Fan does, IIRC. I know there's {Power Conduit}.