So I just finished a game where a guy had a first strike creature and a non first striker he move to damage phase for first strike and we killed a block on a double block after that he argued he had priority again before normal damage was excited is it true or false to cast a spell like {pit fight}? Or would damage resolve before priority
They can cast instants after you declare blockers:) so can you:)
No this is during damage after blockers priority passed after first strike damage was dealt
All damage is symaltaneous:) cannot cast cards
Yep, spells can be cast between first strike damage and normal damage.
Quote from: Ibtrickey on May 30, 2014, 07:33:53 PM
All damage is symaltaneous:) cannot cast cards
this is incorrect. between first strike damage and regular damage both players get priority.
Really? But why
Quote from: Ibtrickey on May 30, 2014, 08:04:22 PM
Really? But why
if all damage was simultaneous then first strike wouldnt matter. i cant tell you why players get priority in between first strike and regular damage but its true.
First strike is in a separate combat damage step. This means that when the step ends, both players would receive priority, just as when any other step ends. This allows a player to cast an instant in between combat steps.
So why is this being brought up if they already knew???
Quote from: Ibtrickey on May 30, 2014, 11:11:43 PM
So why is this being brought up if they already knew???
Because zealius didn't know and so asked the question. The people who supplied the answer knew before posting.
Quote from: Ibtrickey on May 30, 2014, 11:11:43 PM
So why is this being brought up if they already knew???
if you already knew why did you say all damage is simultaneous?
Quote from: particle on May 30, 2014, 08:28:28 PM
Quote from: Ibtrickey on May 30, 2014, 08:04:22 PM
Really? But why
if all damage was simultaneous then first strike wouldnt matter. i cant tell you why players get priority in between first strike and regular damage but its true.
On the Why: First Strike creates an additional Combat Damage step. Damage happens, and there's a chance that any number of triggered abilities on deaths or dealing damage can trigger, some of which may affect how the normal combat damage step plays out. Since these triggered abilities use the stack and can be responded to, players have to receive priority.
However if no ability hit the stack why would either player gain priority as there is nothing to respond to as you are unable to respond to damage assignment and dealing of said damage according to the 510.2.-510.5, rules?
Also thanks for help
Quote from: Zellius on May 31, 2014, 06:12:12 AM
However if no ability hit the stack why would either player gain priority as there is nothing to respond to as you are unable to respond to damage assignment and dealing of said damage according to the 510.2.-510.5, rules?
Every time the game goes from one phase into the next, priority is passed. Every time. Going from first strike damage to normal damage is considered changing phases. So you cannot respond to the damage itself, but both players have the ability to cast instant speed spells at the end of first strike damage phase.
If there is a chance where people COULD get priority (maybe made because an ability might have to trigger), they will get priority even if there are no abilities that do trigger. I don't really know why besides what remillo said, that's just how the game works. :P
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 31, 2014, 08:34:59 AM
If there is a chance where people COULD get priority (maybe made because an ability might have to trigger), they will get priority even if there are no abilities that do trigger. I don't really know why besides what remillo said, that's just how the game works. :P
The easiest was to see this is in the Untap step with Inspired. While the trigger goes off during the Untap step! it doesn't get put on the stack until the upkeep, which is the next time a player could get priority. It's just how the game works,and it makes sense.