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Title: Pyrocension
Post by: Elitehalo360 on May 14, 2014, 01:42:43 AM

Pyrocension

71 cards, 11 sideboard


4 {Scalding Tarn}
4 {Steam Vents}
3 {Sulfur Falls}
4 {Island}
1 {Mountain}

16 lands


4 {Goblin Electromancer}

4 creatures


4 {Pyromancer Ascension}
4 {Serum Visions}
3 {Past in Flames}
4 {Gitaxian Probe}
4 {Sleight of Hand}
4 {Manamorphose}
4 {Desperate Ritual}
4 {Pyretic Ritual}
4 {Grapeshot}
4 {Thought Scour}
1 {Repeal}

40 other spells


Sideboard

3 {Empty the Warrens}
3 {Blood Moon}
2 {Lightning Bolt}
2 {Engineered Explosives}
1 {Repeal}

11 sideboard cards


Title: Re: Pyrocension
Post by: Rasser on May 14, 2014, 02:22:35 AM
Would  {Guttersnipe} help or just take up a spot in the deck?

{Faithless Looting}?
Title: Re: Pyrocension
Post by: Elitehalo360 on May 14, 2014, 02:12:23 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on May 14, 2014, 01:19:15 PM
Faithless Looting is fine since it makes Ascension easier to turn on and you can flashback those spells with Past in Flames. I've seen Guttersnipe used as an alt wincon, but bear in mind that he's just a bear, so unless you plan on going off within a turn, he's not going to stay alive very long.
well this is my next question, what cards arent doing a good enough job in the deck to be replaced by snipe and looting? I honest don't know I have really play tested the deck yet because I don't have all the cards yet.
Title: Re: Pyrocension
Post by: Elitehalo360 on May 14, 2014, 04:33:36 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on May 14, 2014, 02:19:54 PM
Quote from: Elitehalo360 on May 14, 2014, 02:12:23 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on May 14, 2014, 01:19:15 PM
Faithless Looting is fine since it makes
Ascension easier to turn on and you can flashback those spells with Past in Flames. I've seen Guttersnipe used as an alt wincon, but bear in mind that he's just a bear, so unless you plan on going off within a turn, he's not going to stay alive very long.
well this is my next question, what cards arent doing a good enough job in the deck to be replaced by snipe and looting? I
honest don't know I have really play tested the deck yet because I don't have all the cards yet.
Well, currently you only have 56 cards MB. You also only have 4 rituals. My recommendation:
-1-2 Grapeshot (You only should need to see one)
-1 Repeal (I can't imagine any permanent that would give you too much trouble)
+4 Desperate Ritual
+2-3 Faithless Looting

Another card to look at would include {{Desperate Ravings}}
Well I forgot to add {desperate ritual} to my deck list, and I will try that after I receive the rest of the key pieces of the deck from eBay and test it out.




Title: Re: Pyrocension
Post by: Elitehalo360 on May 14, 2014, 04:35:31 PM
And FYI I cant add anything from the newest block because I am on my iPod 2gen and it cant get any newer iOS updates which include the newer versions of this app
Title: Re: Pyrocension
Post by: PrEZchoICE1 on May 14, 2014, 06:31:52 PM
Quote from: Taysby on May 14, 2014, 09:26:57 AM
Quote from: Rasser on May 14, 2014, 02:22:35 AM
Would  {Guttersnipe} help or just take up a spot in the deck?

{Faithless Looting}?

Snipe would cause you to win one turn later because you have to play him, but he makes it so you don't have to go off to win.  That's a personal choice

Faithless costs too much for what it does.  I'd rather just {serum visions}
Faithless is a great card for this deck one of those most underrated cards because it helps get stuff in the yard for ascension. I read a big Jon Finkel article about this very specific deck and he stated that those ppl who ran this deck without faithless are those who are basically conceding to making a top 8.
Title: Re: Pyrocension
Post by: PrEZchoICE1 on May 14, 2014, 06:33:49 PM
I mean y would u not want 8 copies of thoughtscour?
Title: Re: Pyrocension
Post by: PrEZchoICE1 on May 14, 2014, 08:40:29 PM
Quote from: Taysby on May 14, 2014, 08:28:04 PM
I thought it cost 2r and 1u to flash black.  My bad.  It seems pretty good.
Its very good. Even with just one ascension on board its great. With serum you get 1 card and put two on the bottom. With faithless you get two cards then choose two to go to the yard. I could see if the discard was random it would be more tricky but the jewel of the deck is ascension and it needs copies in the yard not at bottom of library.
Title: Re: Pyrocension
Post by: PrEZchoICE1 on May 14, 2014, 08:41:26 PM
Faithless gives you the opportunity to go off turn 3. Serum does not.
Title: Re: Pyrocension
Post by: Elitehalo360 on May 15, 2014, 10:44:21 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions guys I'll be sure to keep them in mine as I assemble this deck.
Title: Re: Pyrocension
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on May 15, 2014, 11:20:01 PM
Remove 1 past in flames
Title: Re: Pyrocension
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on May 15, 2014, 11:36:25 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on May 15, 2014, 11:21:51 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 15, 2014, 11:20:01 PM
Remove 1 past in flames
No, keep 3
I respectfully ask why
Title: Re: Pyrocension
Post by: Mattao19 on May 15, 2014, 11:46:17 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 15, 2014, 11:36:25 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on May 15, 2014, 11:21:51 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on May 15, 2014, 11:20:01 PM
Remove 1 past in flames
No, keep 3
I respectfully ask why

Without Past in Flames Storm can't win lol
Title: Re: Pyrocension
Post by: SoshiGanrou on May 16, 2014, 12:12:11 AM
{Past in flames} is one of those cards that 3 is the magic number for. Makes all the cards in the yar active again and helps you storm off when you have only a few cards in hand. If you run 4 you see them too often. With 3 you see them right when you need them.