Annihilation spoiler!
http://i.imgur.com/pzGI48i.jpg
{Damnation} or bust, wondering what other cards of this nature people are hoping for.
Wouldn't be surprised to see {Armageddon} but they will want to go into other colours too besides {B} and {W}. Makes me wonder which wipes they will pick in the other three.
Looks like new card frame
{Worldfire}? {Nevynyrral's Disk}?
{Wrath of God} ought to be there. Maybe {Fracturing Gust}? That'd be cool.
I'd have to guess Evacuation for blue
Foil {Fracturing Gust} would be sweet, I'm still hoping for {Cataclysm} it's been going up in value and no foil currently exists. Wish the WoG art was slightly better :/ oh well
Gimme dat {Jokulhaups}
Not on my wish list but {Violent Ultimatum} fits nicely and can be a cheap filler card.
{desolation giant}
{desolation angel}
{pernicious deed}
Quote from: imthelolrus on April 28, 2014, 01:20:16 PM
Not on my wish list but {Violent Ultimatum} fits nicely and can be a cheap filler card.
Wouldn't mind: {maelstrom pulse} or {abrupt decay}
Both are strong cards and AD is $10 at rotation, most likely to sky rocket after if no reprints
Quote from: Muggywuggy on April 28, 2014, 01:25:12 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on April 28, 2014, 01:20:16 PM
Not on my wish list but {Violent Ultimatum} fits nicely and can be a cheap filler card.
Wouldn't mind: {maelstrom pulse} or {abrupt decay}
Both are strong cards and AD is $10 at rotation, most likely to sky rocket after if no reprints
Plus that price tag of foil decays...
come on {damnation}!
Im drawing a blank here but I remember a card that is either black red or green red and its destroy target land, artifact, creature and enchanment. CMC of 4. Seems like it would fit nicely. Also nobody has mentioned decree of pain. Id prefer to see a reprint of that than damnation.
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on April 28, 2014, 02:30:17 PM
Im drawing a blank here but I remember a card that is either black red or green red and its destroy target land, artifact, creature and enchanment. CMC of 4. Seems like it would fit nicely. Also nobody has mentioned decree of pain. Id prefer to see a reprint of that than damnation.
{decree of pain} was just reprinted in commander 2013.
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on April 28, 2014, 02:30:17 PM
Im drawing a blank here but I remember a card that is either black red or green red and its destroy target land, artifact, creature and enchanment. CMC of 4. Seems like it would fit nicely. Also nobody has mentioned decree of pain. Id prefer to see a reprint of that than damnation.
{Decimate}
Quote from: FustyDavorite on April 28, 2014, 02:43:13 PM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on April 28, 2014, 02:30:17 PM
Im drawing a blank here but I remember a card that is either black red or green red and its destroy target land, artifact, creature and enchanment. CMC of 4. Seems like it would fit nicely. Also nobody has mentioned decree of pain. Id prefer to see a reprint of that than damnation.
{Decimate}
That actually sucks. If there arent at least one of each, you cant even cast it. I might use it in EDH, but even there its iffy
Possibly {Worldslayer}?
I would love a {Pernicious Deed}!
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 28, 2014, 01:20:59 PM
{desolation giant}
{desolation angel}
{pernicious deed}
Damn, {Pernicious Deed} would be a dream come true.
Quote from: particle on April 28, 2014, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on April 28, 2014, 02:30:17 PM
Im drawing a blank here but I remember a card that is either black red or green red and its destroy target land, artifact, creature and enchanment. CMC of 4. Seems like it would fit nicely. Also nobody has mentioned decree of pain. Id prefer to see a reprint of that than damnation.
{decree of pain} was just reprinted in commander 2013.
Yes, exactly. Damnation hasnt seen one yet tho, which is why I would hope for decree.
Damnation wouldn't have the awesome old frame :(
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on April 28, 2014, 07:36:19 PM
Quote from: particle on April 28, 2014, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on April 28, 2014, 02:30:17 PM
Im drawing a blank here but I remember a card that is either black red or green red and its destroy target land, artifact, creature and enchanment. CMC of 4. Seems like it would fit nicely. Also nobody has mentioned decree of pain. Id prefer to see a reprint of that than damnation.
{decree of pain} was just reprinted in commander 2013.
Yes, exactly. Damnation hasnt seen one yet tho, which is why I would hope for decree.
why would you hope for decree over damnation since its already been reprinted?
Quote from: particle on April 29, 2014, 02:14:50 AM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on April 28, 2014, 07:36:19 PM
Quote from: particle on April 28, 2014, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on April 28, 2014, 02:30:17 PM
Im drawing a blank here but I remember a card that is either black red or green red and its destroy target land, artifact, creature and enchanment. CMC of 4. Seems like it would fit nicely. Also nobody has mentioned decree of pain. Id prefer to see a reprint of that than damnation.
{decree of pain} was just reprinted in commander 2013.
Yes, exactly. Damnation hasnt seen one yet tho, which is why I would hope for decree.
why would you hope for decree over damnation since its already been reprinted?
Value of damnation
the old ones will still go up in the long run, i think.
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on April 29, 2014, 02:41:38 AM
Quote from: particle on April 29, 2014, 02:14:50 AM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on April 28, 2014, 07:36:19 PM
Quote from: particle on April 28, 2014, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on April 28, 2014, 02:30:17 PM
Im drawing a blank here but I remember a card that is either black red or green red and its destroy target land, artifact, creature and enchanment. CMC of 4. Seems like it would fit nicely. Also nobody has mentioned decree of pain. Id prefer to see a reprint of that than damnation.
{decree of pain} was just reprinted in commander 2013.
Yes, exactly. Damnation hasnt seen one yet tho, which is why I would hope for decree.
why would you hope for decree over damnation since its already been reprinted?
Value of damnation
As we have seen with other limited print runs, the printing in a FTV set sometimes increases the price, Damnation will be fine.
{Wrath of God} has been confirmed with weird Heliod art
I am not to enthused with this FtV concept. Don't mean to sound negative......just sayin is all
{Obliterate} and {Worldfire} are two candidates in my mind
It was leaked, no Damnation :(
http://www.magicspoiler.com/ftv-annihilation-spoiler/
Is this set a joke or something? I am
Not impressed...
http://www.magicspoiler.com/ftv-annihilation-spoiler/
If this is correct, it doesn't look bad... {Rolling Earthquake}?
i guess it ok. {burning of xinye} has value.
I like how a few portal three kingdoms card being reprinted... Those are expensive cards
2 useless portal cards don't make the set worthwhile. Horsemanship damage really??? Those two cards are expensive because they are limited printing....not cuz they are useful.
Name a deck either one will be useful in Legacy. Since that is the format these are legal in.
Note that C13 has loads of P3K cards that are worth a fortune from P3K, but worth nothing from C13. I'd imagine the two P3K cards in this will follow suit. They're not good enough to be sought after.
This is very depressing. Another {Wrath of God} (with mediocre art compared to 10th) and a bunch of crappy wraths? No thanks. I might try to get a hold of a {Terminus} if it has new art, but that's it. Also hate that they're using the new frame. Not a fan.
Ladies and gentleman I give you the first FtV set you will be able to buy at MSRP. Hell walmart may sell this jank!
Sorry I'm done hating now...........maybe
I'm getting {Rolling Earthquake}... Just because no one plays with horsemanship. It takes out everything!! Flyers, ground-pounders, even you!! It's a combo of {Earthquake} and {Hurricane}, which appeals to the old school in me
Quote from: rarehuntertay on April 30, 2014, 07:25:39 PM
I'm getting {Rolling Earthquake}... Just because no one plays with horsemanship. It takes out everything!! Flyers, ground-pounders, even you!! It's a combo of {Earthquake} and {Hurricane}, which appeals to the old school in me
{Rolling Earthquake} was a p3k only card that is worth some serious dough. Though it's not great.
Quote from: Silent1236 on April 30, 2014, 07:20:46 PM
Note that C13 has loads of P3K cards that are worth a fortune from P3K, but worth nothing from C13. I'd imagine the two P3K cards in this will follow suit. They're not good enough to be sought after.
This is very depressing. Another {Wrath of God} (with mediocre art compared to 10th) and a bunch of crappy wraths? No thanks. I might try to get a hold of a {Terminus} if it has new art, but that's it. Also hate that they're using the new frame. Not a fan.
I can hook you up with a foily pack foil terminus... Lemme know..
This is a great EDH print but that's it.
I'll still pick up two if I can.
Where can I find this?
If someone buys this I'm gonna want the {Smokestack}
$35
They'll be $80-100 I guarantee it.
Lol buying this for the {Living Death} alone I've wanted one in foil for my sliver EDH but the judge foil is so expensive. Maybe since people don't like this (reminds me of FTV realms) they will go for 50-60ish like realms.
Highly doubt the portal reprints will be even close to the originals... But I like half the stuff they included
Awful.
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 30, 2014, 07:15:42 PM
2 useless portal cards don't make the set worthwhile. Horsemanship damage really??? Those two cards are expensive because they are limited printing....not cuz they are useful.
Name a deck either one will be useful in Legacy. Since that is the format these are legal in.
Useless? Read {Rolling Earthquake} again my friend
Quote from: S717 on May 01, 2014, 01:50:23 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 30, 2014, 07:15:42 PM
2 useless portal cards don't make the set worthwhile. Horsemanship damage really??? Those two cards are expensive because they are limited printing....not cuz they are useful.
Name a deck either one will be useful in Legacy. Since that is the format these are legal in.
Useless? Read {Rolling Earthquake} again my friend
It's like a {bonfire of the damned} but it hurts you too. Maybe useless is not the best word. But how mana RDW decks running horsemanship have you seen in play lately?
Quote from: cltrn81 on May 01, 2014, 03:33:51 AM
Quote from: S717 on May 01, 2014, 01:50:23 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 30, 2014, 07:15:42 PM
2 useless portal cards don't make the set worthwhile. Horsemanship damage really??? Those two cards are expensive because they are limited printing....not cuz they are useful.
Name a deck either one will be useful in Legacy. Since that is the format these are legal in.
Useless? Read {Rolling Earthquake} again my friend
It's like a {bonfire of the damned} but it hurts you too. Maybe useless is not the best word. But how mana RDW decks running horsemanship have you seen in play lately?
There was an weird version of RUG delver (I think) make top 4 of SCG open using that card a few weeks ago. I went to check the price and was surprised. It's a board wipe that takes care of ground-based creatures and flying creatures in red for one spell, with is rare. Who cares about horsemanship? That's not the point of the card 😜 lol
Yeah, horsemanship can be ignored. It's basically x damage to all creatures and all players, which is really quite good. This will kill most relevant threats and utility creatures with x at 2 or 3. It's very good IMO.
Quote from: rarehuntertay on May 01, 2014, 06:12:14 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on May 01, 2014, 03:33:51 AM
Quote from: S717 on May 01, 2014, 01:50:23 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 30, 2014, 07:15:42 PM
2 useless portal cards don't make the set worthwhile. Horsemanship damage really??? Those two cards are expensive because they are limited printing....not cuz they are useful.
Name a deck either one will be useful in Legacy. Since that is the format these are legal in.
Useless? Read {Rolling Earthquake} again my friend
It's like a {bonfire of the damned} but it hurts you too. Maybe useless is not the best word. But how mana RDW decks running horsemanship have you seen in play lately?
There was an weird version of RUG delver (I think) make top 4 of SCG open using that card a few weeks ago. I went to check the price and was surprised. It's a board wipe that takes care of ground-based creatures and flying creatures in red for one spell, with is rare. Who cares about horsemanship? That's not the point of the card 😜 lol
Link to deck? I'm intrigued.
Quote from: Silent1236 on May 01, 2014, 12:13:37 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on May 01, 2014, 06:12:14 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on May 01, 2014, 03:33:51 AM
Quote from: S717 on May 01, 2014, 01:50:23 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 30, 2014, 07:15:42 PM
2 useless portal cards don't make the set worthwhile. Horsemanship damage really??? Those two cards are expensive because they are limited printing....not cuz they are useful.
Name a deck either one will be useful in Legacy. Since that is the format these are legal in.
Useless? Read {Rolling Earthquake} again my friend
It's like a {bonfire of the damned} but it hurts you too. Maybe useless is not the best word. But how mana RDW decks running horsemanship have you seen in play lately?
There was an weird version of RUG delver (I think) make top 4 of SCG open using that card a few weeks ago. I went to check the price and was surprised. It's a board wipe that takes care of ground-based creatures and flying creatures in red for one spell, with is rare. Who cares about horsemanship? That's not the point of the card 😜 lol
Link to deck? I'm intrigued.
It was a Painted Stone deck... Made top16. But here's the link if interested:
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=65906
Guys, check magic spoiler again. The list that was there is incorrect. There is still hope for {damnation}! Only leaked card is wrath
Thank god.
Dang. I was hoping for {Rolling Earthquake}
Yeah! Maybe Wizards doesn't hate us and will finally give us {Damnation}!
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on May 03, 2014, 07:59:24 PM
Yeah! Maybe Wizards doesn't hate us and will finally give us {Damnation}!
I'd prefer it reprinted in a core set
Quote from: cltrn81 on May 03, 2014, 08:10:54 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on May 03, 2014, 07:59:24 PM
Yeah! Maybe Wizards doesn't hate us and will finally give us {Damnation}!
I'd prefer it reprinted in a core set
id prefer it reprinted anywhere and soon.
Won't at least one of these cards be a preview for the next set
Quote from: dawsonkenneth on May 05, 2014, 02:00:51 PM
Won't at least one of these cards be a preview for the next set
I know they did that with {mikaeus the lunarch} but not sure that's guaranteed.
Apparently the only card that HAS been spoiled from here is the new art Wrath of God reprinted as a mythic. Id have to assume that Damnation will also see reprint in the same form, which begs the question If Damnation is reprinted as a mythic what will that do for the value of the current printing?
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on May 06, 2014, 08:52:05 AM
Apparently the only card that HAS been spoiled from here is the new art Wrath of God reprinted as a mythic. Id have to assume that Damnation will also see reprint in the same form, which begs the question If Damnation is reprinted as a mythic what will that do for the value of the current printing?
All FtV cards get mythic status for that set. See FtV {Kird ape}
Quote from: cltrn81 on May 06, 2014, 09:03:21 AM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on May 06, 2014, 08:52:05 AM
Apparently the only card that HAS been spoiled from here is the new art Wrath of God reprinted as a mythic. Id have to assume that Damnation will also see reprint in the same form, which begs the question If Damnation is reprinted as a mythic what will that do for the value of the current printing?
All FtV cards get mythic status for that set. See FtV {Kird ape}
Wat a body on that ape
But yea I think theres a good chance Damnation sees a reprint in this annihilation set. Thanks for clarifying all FTV cards get mythic tho
FTV sets are so limited (unfortunately) that it drives the cost way above msrp (more unfortunate) that I don't see Damnnation dropping much. Especially if they give it ugly art like WoG. (Reprints with ugly art is WotC's new thing I think)
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 06, 2014, 06:39:54 PM
FTV sets are so limited (unfortunately) that it drives the cost way above msrp (more unfortunate) that I don't see Damnnation dropping much. Especially if they give it ugly art like WoG. (Reprints with ugly art is WotC's new thing I think)
Exactly! That is why I want {damnation} in a core set.
apparently the spoilers were fake and {wrath of god} is the only thing thats confirmed.
Quote from: particle on May 20, 2014, 02:51:57 PM
apparently the spoilers were fake and {wrath of god} is the only thing thats confirmed.
You're about 18 days late...
I wish the wrath of god spoiled was fake...
didnt see someone already posted about it. sorry for old news imtg.
Quote from: particle on May 20, 2014, 09:22:34 PM
didnt see someone already posted about it. sorry for old news imtg.
Lol, it's fine. I just found it funny.
I want {Vindicate} and {Pernicious Deed}
I wouldn't mind {Novablast Wurm}
I'd like to see {overwhelming forces} and a nice new art {all is dust}
I just want to start seeing some spoilers QQ
Yeah some sort of something would be nice, one would almost be led to believe the list thats been spoiled is right by the lack of wizards activity regarding it
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 31, 2014, 09:42:08 PM
I just want to start seeing some spoilers QQ
When did spoilers start happening for FTV 20?
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 01, 2014, 03:32:58 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 31, 2014, 09:42:08 PM
I just want to start seeing some spoilers QQ
When did spoilers start happening for FTV 20?
{wrath of god} is all that was spoiled
Asking when FTV was spoiled last year for FTV 20 so we can get an idea of window for spoiler
Quote from: Muggywuggy on June 01, 2014, 06:47:54 PM
Asking when FTV was spoiled last year for FTV 20 so we can get an idea of window for spoiler
August 6: http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/rc/259
Release date: August 22
{Cataclysm} has a nice spot waiting for it right now :)
{Cataclysm} art
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtfgvFhCEAAMOuY.jpg)
Also: Cataclysm, Wrath of God, Living Death and Rolling Earthquake confirmed
Cataclysm art is amazing. It's going to look so cool in my Stax deck.
{Living Death}
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtfgrvnCYAMknSJ.jpg)
{Rolling Earthquake}
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtfgntuCAAA7Pfp.jpg)
This may actually sell for MSRP (until they spoil {Damnation} later)
{Wrath of God}
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtfgkkZCUAAJl58.jpg)
{Armageddon}
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtfgerjCIAALatA.jpg)
(http://mythicspoiler.com/v14/cards/armageddon.jpg)
Quote from: Taysby on July 26, 2014, 05:16:25 PM
Are any places pre selling this? I need the {rolling earthquake} for my cube. And i think that will make it sell for higher than msrp.
Nah, probably not. {Rolling Earthquake} is only worth so much because of its limited printing. Ftv should lower the price enough to get it in players hands, it's not a $175 in any format.
Whether it sells at MSRP or not is really asking: what else is in the set and how big of a printing will it get? As we saw last time, one card can change things.
I would only get this for living death and damnation, but boy do I hate the new borders...
I want that {Rolling Earthquake}! I mean, who plays horsemanship?? This hits pretty much everything!
I never get these. They should give us more FTV Realms and Legends (obviously sequels, not just reprints), then I might be interested.
Quote from: Taysby on July 26, 2014, 09:04:08 PM
is $100 worth it? I think it would be for the rolling, but it is a not phenominal card, just a limited print run... I can't decide.
The whole thing isn't spoiled yet. None of us can answer that question. Currently? I would say no.
Quote from: Taysby on July 26, 2014, 09:04:08 PM
is $100 worth it? I think it would be for the rolling, but it is a not phenominal card, just a limited print run... I can't decide.
Most people dont like shiny things on the new rares, so where as most of the time, FTV=pimped cards, that could be different here. I dont see it selling for more than $60, maybe $75 if Damnation is in it.
Rolling probably will not sell the set. We've gotta wait for spoilers to be finished. {Rolling Earthquake} was printed only in Portal: Three Kingdoms which had an extremely short English printing in Australia and New Zealand and are among the most rare cards ever printed. Nothing about Rolling Earthquake warrants the $175 price tag, and when people open up their FtV: Annihilation and run to ebay to resell them, their price will be closer to $30 or less. You can't sell something for more then someone is willing to pay for it.
So far so good, I still need a foil {living death} for EDH. Also, it's worth noting that these are all cards that were included in the original "fake" spoilers. So maybe only part was legit? O_o either that or we aren't getting {Damnnation} in here. Probably would prefer to see this one selling for close to msrp, but I doubt that will happen :/
Just pre-ordered this for $80, against my better judgment. I don't think it will sell for much over MSRP, even if {Damnation} is in it. But that {Cataclysm} artwork and {Armageddon} slide right into my Stax deck.
Even with {Damnation}, that's like a $30 foil? At best? The players reward one is about $35. So you'd figure a reprint Damnation foil would be worth around $20 or less.
Quote from: Taysby on August 03, 2014, 01:10:14 PM
Where? I'd pick one up for $80. Just not $100+
eBay. http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=291207277866&alt=web
So the unofficial spoilers have been correct thusfar, if the trend continues and there is no {Damnation} it's probably a $40 set.
• {Wrath of God}✅
Unofficial spoilers, according to Reddit:
• {Armageddon} (new art) ✅
• {Upheaval}
• {Firespout} (new art)
• {Child of Alara}
• {Virtue's Ruin}
• {Rolling Earthquake} ✅
• {Smokestack} ( new art)
• {Burning of Xinye}
• {Cataclysm} (new art) ✅
• {Living Death} (new art)✅
• {Decree of Annihilation} (new art)
• {Fracturing Gust}
• {Terminus}
• {Martial Coup}
Quote from: Taysby on August 03, 2014, 01:44:28 PM
Well they all are about $5 cards (except p3k), so that's like $70. I doubt it'll go for msrp.
You might be right. Either way, the {Cataclysm} art sold me on the set. I could slide that {Terminus} in too.
They will make it worth it
Bastards at WOTC always do...
Look at the new clash pack... Sold out of lgs for weeks in my area (LA)
Oooo, not to mention the fact that the unofficial spoilers has the correct NEW art on the cards. It was deemed fake, but its looking more accurate all of the time.
Spoiler picture in question (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B6NWLe5Dunw/U2GFyhF6TuI/AAAAAAAAWwc/tTJrRZvcnFI/s1600/ftv+annihilation+box.jpg)
Edit: And the new flavor texts (even the Armageddon) is correct. It's nearly impossible to have guessed with this high degree of accuracy.
I'm hoping that {Terminus} becomes something else. 5 mono-white sweepers and a hybrid one is too much. Unless they want to show the miracle frame in the new boarder.
Quote from: Muggywuggy on August 03, 2014, 02:24:57 PM
They will make it worth it
Bastards at WOTC always do...
Look at the new clash pack... Sold out of lgs for weeks in my area (LA)
I found the clash packs at Toy-r-us here for 40... Go across the street to target and walmart and they're like 20-25
You could just buy one for $2. It's not a super rare card, and especially without new art. Hardly makes a reprinting worth it.
Man they are really dragging this out
Very bizarre, I know. I just Preordered another set too. One to keep sealed and one to open. I wonder when they're going to reveal it. And hopefully {Wasteland} and {Damnation} end up in there too. (But the spoilers are most likely dead on)
Quote from: Dudecore on August 07, 2014, 06:58:20 PM
Very bizarre, I know. I just Preordered another set too. One to keep sealed and one to open. I wonder when they're going to reveal it. And hopefully {Wasteland} and {Damnation} end up in there too. (But the spoilers are most likely dead on)
Just looking at wastelands price makes me sad. I traded mine like 3 years ago when it was about 33. Now it's almost tripled in price. What a shame. And as far as damnation is concerned my fear is that if they don't reprint it in one of these limited print sets that it'll be a mythic in whatever set they decide to put it in. They did right by urborg and chord of calling I'm just hoping they do the same with damnation.
Quote from: Dudecore on August 07, 2014, 06:58:20 PM
Very bizarre, I know. I just Preordered another set too. One to keep sealed and one to open. I wonder when they're going to reveal it. And hopefully {Wasteland} and {Damnation} end up in there too. (But the spoilers are most likely dead on)
Yeah, something tells me most of the fake spoilers were accurate and they're holding off. I'd love for 2-4 cards to be different than the original list, obviously with one being something like wasteland, koz, or Damnnation. All FTV sets have been worth money and I expect this one to be similar.
Quote from: imthelolrus on August 07, 2014, 07:05:33 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on August 07, 2014, 06:58:20 PM
Very bizarre, I know. I just Preordered another set too. One to keep sealed and one to open. I wonder when they're going to reveal it. And hopefully {Wasteland} and {Damnation} end up in there too. (But the spoilers are most likely dead on)
Yeah, something tells me most of the fake spoilers were accurate and they're holding off. I'd love for 2-4 cards to be different than the original list, obviously with one being something like wasteland, koz, or Damnnation. All FTV sets have been worth money and I expect this one to be similar.
It seems like {Rolling Earthquake} is their way of making it worth money. Too bad.
From the Vault: Annihilation spoiled on magiccardmarket (https://www.magiccardmarket.eu/Products/Singles/From+the+Vault%3A+Annihilation)
Quote from: Dudecore on August 07, 2014, 08:18:19 PM
From the Vault: Annihilation spoiled on magiccardmarket (https://www.magiccardmarket.eu/Products/Singles/From+the+Vault%3A+Annihilation)
boooooo!!!!! cards not good enough.
I Preordered one for $80 and then one for MSRP. So I'm in a grand total of $60 a piece. I'll hold onto one for now. I agree, a bit underwhelming, no real show piece besides the beautiful {Cataclysm}, which will not sell the set.
What a bummer. This FTV is so underwhelming.
Quote from: LordJanova on August 07, 2014, 09:42:47 PM
What a bummer. This FTV is so underwhelming.
Maybe they finally learned their lesson and overly corrected themselves. I don't know why this is so hard for them grasp: if you want to give players cool cards and make sure everyone who wants one gets one, PRINT MORE OF THEM!
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 07, 2014, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: LordJanova on August 07, 2014, 09:42:47 PM
What a bummer. This FTV is so underwhelming.
Maybe they finally learned their lesson and overly corrected themselves. I don't know why this is so hard for them grasp: if you want to give players cool cards and make sure everyone who wants one gets one, PRINT MORE OF THEM!
I feel like this time they tried to justify a weak lineup with cards that are expensive despite the fact that they're only expensive because there's a small supply of them rather than a high demand for them.
Not for nothing but: players complain constantly when they can't get the sets for MSRP, then one comes out and they complain that it's only selling for MSRP. It's really tough if you're Wizards to get the correct signal. So you don't want them to reprint {Jace, the Mind Sculptor}?
I think people should just be honest and say they want all the best cards and they don't want to pay for them. Over printing devalues everything, and takes away how unique and cool the product is.
Quote from: Dudecore on August 07, 2014, 10:05:13 PM
Not for nothing but: players complain constantly when they can't get the sets for MSRP, then one comes out and they complain that it's only selling for MSRP. It's really tough if you're Wizards to get the correct signal. So you don't want them to reprint {Jace, the Mind Sculptor}?
I think people should just be honest and say they want all the best cards and they don't want to pay for them. Over printing devalues everything, and takes away how unique and cool the product is.
Why not just raise the MSRP and print 20% more of them? I am not asking them to sell JTMS for $40, just expanding the amount of product available so that the set doesn't sell for triple the MSRP.
They could print it all day, that isn't the point. There is a point where it isn't worth hurting the product for marginal gain. When it comes to collectors editions and everything else, you can look at the constant collectible bubbles that burst (Comic books, sports cards, anime, ect).
You can still get a JtMS for $90. That is very decent considering you could buy a non-foil for over $150. They print enough to get them into hands, but at a price. That price happens to be lower then most.
I'm happy with it overall, I own a Damnnation and want over 1/3rd of the foils for EDH. Plus a foil {fracturing gust} is sweet for modern an the die is likely cool looking. I want it to sell for msrp for once.
Over time they will pick up value, especially with it having the only foil printing of cataclysm and the only cheap foil living death. But yeah, it's hard to go from FTV20 to this... But that set had 5 more cards and a jace... Not every (or anymore) FTV will be like that.
The official list is out, its the same as the one we had a few months ago... http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/look-inside-vault-annihilation-2014-08-11
This is junk. I'll stick with my full art wrath
(http://8e8460c4912582c4e519-11fcbfd88ed5b90cfb46edba899033c9.r65.cf1.rackcdn.com/sales/cardscans/MAGPRM/wrathofgodTXL.jpg)
I'll stick with my full art Damnation as well;
(http://8e8460c4912582c4e519-11fcbfd88ed5b90cfb46edba899033c9.r65.cf1.rackcdn.com/sales/cardscans/MAGPRM/damnation2TXL.jpg)
Quote from: Taysby on August 11, 2014, 01:26:12 PM
Is that really a thing?
And their reason for putting {decree of annihilation} in it. We had an open spot and it had annihilation in the name. WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST GIVE US THE FREAKING DAMNATION???
However, {damnation} reprint is coming soon
Something important to keep in mind: If something is missing from one of these, there's a good reason. It's not that we just completely miss obvious things, but that we have the entire picture of Magic's future to work with and know where something is going to fit better. If you really want something to appear again, stay patient. If it's something that's realistically reprintable, there's a good chance you can expect to see it eventually. Even horsemanship got its day in From the Vault: Legends and Commander (2013 Edition).
Not necessarily, if you reread the article, he said something was pulled at the last minute and {Decree of Annihilation} was jammed in its place. {Damnation} could have been taken out because they feared another FTV:20 (between the Three KIngdoms stuff and {Damnation}).
So hurting
Much sadness
Won't buy unless MSRP
Quote from: Hays413 on August 11, 2014, 01:04:44 PM
This is junk. I'll stick with my full art wrath
(http://8e8460c4912582c4e519-11fcbfd88ed5b90cfb46edba899033c9.r65.cf1.rackcdn.com/sales/cardscans/MAGPRM/wrathofgodTXL.jpg)
I've got this signed by the artist. I think it's too dark personally, but I wouldn't swap it for the new one that's for sure.
You got yours signed? I'm jelly
Not for nothing, but isn't a player reward {Damnation} worth like $40? It's not like it would have catapulted this set over the top, would have just made it above MSRP. FtV Damnation would be worth just about $40 either way.
Quote from: Dudecore on August 11, 2014, 03:37:23 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on August 11, 2014, 01:04:44 PM
This is junk. I'll stick with my full art wrath
(http://8e8460c4912582c4e519-11fcbfd88ed5b90cfb46edba899033c9.r65.cf1.rackcdn.com/sales/cardscans/MAGPRM/wrathofgodTXL.jpg)
I've got this signed by the artist. I think it's too dark personally, but I wouldn't swap it for the new one that's for sure.
Yea these promos are dark in contrast. I have 3 full art foil {cryptic command} and they are also very dark.
Quote from: Hays413 on August 11, 2014, 01:04:44 PM
This is junk. I'll stick with my full art wrath
(http://8e8460c4912582c4e519-11fcbfd88ed5b90cfb46edba899033c9.r65.cf1.rackcdn.com/sales/cardscans/MAGPRM/wrathofgodTXL.jpg)
This art is amazing! How can I get a play set? Lol
Full spoilers
{Armageddon} *
{Burning of Xinye}
{Cataclysm} *
{Child of Alara}
{Decree of Annihilation}
{Firespout} *
{Fracturing Gust}
{Living Death} **
{Martial Coup}
{Rolling Earthquake}
{Smokestack} *
{Terminus}
{Upheavel}
{Virtue's Ruin}
{Wrath of God} *
(*) new art for this release
(**) art first time on paper
A Look Inside From the Vault: Annihilation (http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/look-inside-vault-annihilation-2014-08-11)
Depression strikes
Annihilation of all hopes and dreams for damnation
Quote from: Muggywuggy on August 11, 2014, 08:24:32 PM
Annihilation of all hopes and dreams for damnation
It wasn't even from the vault
Full set has been spoiled. Thank you everyone for your contributions.
Odds are that the lack of Damnation means it will either be in Khans or (more likely) in the black 2014 Commander deck. If they didn't reprint it in modern masters, and they didn't put it in THIS, the only -logical- conclusion is that it's already lined up for a reprint elsewhere.
I can only imagine how amazing it would look in FTV foil, though...
Any price hints for this set yet? Without damnation, I might be able to actually afford this one.
Release date?
Quote from: Taysby on August 19, 2014, 04:53:30 PM
If you were to buy the pieces it would be $112
On ebay, it's hovering at around $40 on auctions. $50 on buy it now.
$112 wont be the price a month after release, that said, 99% of sealed product goes up, grabbing it at MSRP and keeping it sealed is a good investment (as always).