Happy 4/20 everyone! I can't be the only one celebrating ;)
Quote from: Garblefarb on April 20, 2014, 04:59:56 PM
Happy 4/20 everyone! I can't be the only one celebrating ;)
you are not the only one :)
Dame straight your not the only ones lol there's got to be more
Drugs r bad
Lmfao ;)
Drugs are healthy for the soul what you talking about lol. The world would be a lot happier place with one certain tree lol
Drugs are helpful, Mmk? I have diabetes and take insulin 24/7, that's a drug. I'm alive. ;)
Crack cocaine is good
Smoke crack hail Satan
Quote from: Juvia, Water Woman on April 20, 2014, 08:03:54 PM
Drugs are helpful, Mmk? I have diabetes and take insulin 24/7, that's a drug. I'm alive. ;)
You're diabetic?
Also: insulins a hormone innit? Nt a drug.. No more so than adrenaline
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on April 20, 2014, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: Juvia, Water Woman on April 20, 2014, 08:03:54 PM
Drugs are helpful, Mmk? I have diabetes and take insulin 24/7, that's a drug. I'm alive. ;)
You're diabetic?
I have many diseases, type 1 diabetes is one.
Quote from: MisterJH on April 20, 2014, 10:08:08 PM
Also: insulins a hormone innit? Nt a drug.. No more so than adrenaline
Not the one in my insulin pump, it's definitely a drug...
Well if youre taking regular insulin then its nothing the human body doesnt produce.. Of course we produce minute amounts of DMT or somethin so i guess thats hardly an argument :0
Quote from: MisterJH on April 20, 2014, 10:28:35 PM
Well if youre taking regular insulin then its nothing the human body doesnt produce.. Of course we produce minute amounts of DMT or somethin so i guess thats hardly an argument :0
It's fake, artificial insulin. Not something organs make.
Ahh i see, well they have lab produced human insulin too.. Its actually fascinating how they make it i learned it in my college bio class recently :O
Just an interesting fact lol, its mindblowing how they do it
It cuz today is Easter right?
I think I smoked myself sober... Oh well, there's tomorrow.
Quote from: PapaBudz on April 21, 2014, 03:23:37 AM
I think I smoked myself sober... Oh well, there's tomorrow.
Unfortunately that "tomorrow" (today now) I have school ðŸ˜
Weight loss is overrated, candy is underrated.. You do the math
Quote from: MisterJH on April 20, 2014, 11:12:18 PM
Ahh i see, well they have lab produced human insulin too.. Its actually fascinating how they make it i learned it in my college bio class recently :O
Just an interesting fact lol, its mindblowing how they do it
Lol yeah
Ok back on topic people
Cannabis!
Lol they covered the Cannabis Cup on the news i thought that was awesome. Reflects thechanging times well
Quote from: MisterJH on April 22, 2014, 09:11:04 AM
Cannabis!
Lol they covered the Cannabis Cup on the news i thought that was awesome. Reflects thechanging times well
That is awesome :3 wooot
Lol, day we get back from a 3 day Easter weekend... DRUG TESTING!
luckily I do not partake in such activities, it would be one crappy Monday for anyone who did.
Is this for your job? If so... Well yea theyre aware of the 4/20 theme. Instead of keeping a culture reserved retarded potheads who think just smoking is cool in and of itself freakin plaster their secrets on facebook and .poo.. Well guess what, youve lost countless people jobs only days after 4/20, congrats >:(
Quote from: MisterJH on April 23, 2014, 12:26:14 AM
Is this for your job? If so... Well yea theyre aware of the 4/20 theme. Instead of keeping a culture reserved retarded potheads who think just smoking is cool in and of itself freakin plaster their secrets on facebook and .poo.. Well guess what, youve lost countless people jobs only days after 4/20, congrats >:(
nah, drugs tests at school, man, But it would suck to be caught either way; I'm glad I don't smoke.
The fact they drug test kids is wrong.
Are pub schools allowed to drug test kids?
Quote from: IceScythe on April 23, 2014, 01:13:41 AM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 23, 2014, 12:26:14 AM
Is this for your job? If so... Well yea theyre aware of the 4/20 theme. Instead of keeping a culture reserved retarded potheads who think just smoking is cool in and of itself freakin plaster their secrets on facebook and .poo.. Well guess what, youve lost countless people jobs only days after 4/20, congrats >:(
nah, drugs tests at school, man, But it would suck to be caught either way; I'm glad I don't smoke.
do you go to public or private school? At my school they cant legally.. Unless in sports and under suspicion of drug use
If they did drug testing at my school, more than half the kids would get in some kind of trouble lol
Grass Valley.
Sweet. I'm going to make a trip out there to chill.
It's a pretty boring town. Just a good climate and good soil. Grab some herb and take a drive up to Tahoe if you're into nature and what not.
I'm used to the boring town thing. However, nature is a little scarce, so I'll make a note of Tahoe for sure.
Quote from: MisterJH on April 23, 2014, 01:29:49 AM
Quote from: IceScythe on April 23, 2014, 01:13:41 AM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 23, 2014, 12:26:14 AM
Is this for your job? If so... Well yea theyre aware of the 4/20 theme. Instead of keeping a culture reserved retarded potheads who think just smoking is cool in and of itself freakin plaster their secrets on facebook and .poo.. Well guess what, youve lost countless people jobs only days after 4/20, congrats >:(
nah, drugs tests at school, man, But it would suck to be caught either way; I'm glad I don't smoke.
do you go to public or private school? At my school they cant legally.. Unless in sports and under suspicion of drug use
Private, they have the right to do so too. I actually think it's good that they do, you guys may think recreational drugs are fine, but I like my learning environments free of potheads, had two in my health class at my old school; one of them never shut up and distracted the whole class, and the other snored really loudly (on the occasions that he showed up).
Im sure you had more potheads who were completely normal too so just know its on a continuum of douchy potheadness. Im personaly a very respectful pothead when im smoking(currently clean)
Plenty of idiotic sober people too
Another great point. Ive figured that probably 70% or more of people are just moronic and dont give a damn just based on experience. The other 30% are split evenly between people who are arrogant and people who I could potentially get along with.
Your teacher? Probably smokes weed at home. That old lady down the street? Yeah her too. Just because people use cannabis , or any substance for that matter, doesn't make them idiotic, dull witted, or unmotivated. We are normal people just like yourself.
Quote from: Taysby on April 23, 2014, 05:19:59 PM
Quote from: Infektor on April 23, 2014, 04:16:09 PM
Your teacher? Probably smokes weed at home. That old lady down the street? Yeah her too. Just because people use cannabis , or any substance for that matter, doesn't make them idiotic, dull witted, or unmotivated. We are normal people just like yourself.
I'm calling a lie on this one. Most people don't use drugs.
Most people don't, but you'd be shocked how many people have do.
D.A.R.E. graduate
Sorry Taysby but youre not quite right.
Not that what you say isnt partially true, but its not nearly as cut and dry as that. Probaby half of smokers i know (which is most people ive known in HS, were a pothead school) 1/2, half have no issues. Like literally none. They function at optimal level, never crave another, dont lose motivation. Then the other 1/2 are somewhat like youve said, though less intense sounding. Its not like theyre only searching for their next high. Youve just been told its a lot more intense than it is, trust me and those experienced. I should be the most addicted human being ever yet ive taken plenty of breaks when id like a tolerance dip, i might have a drug test, i just dont feel like it.. Etc. im one of the 1/2 with no issues with it. Just sayin
Really? Cause I have two friends that reguraly use acid and smoke pot everyday. Both pull in 75,000 a year as gm's of high level retails. They've used since they were younger than I did when I started. I also make a decent wage and graduated college with flying marks. Don't put all us users in a generalized identity you've made just because you've seen a few shitty ones. And there are statistics showing more than half of the us population has at one time used or are currently using illegal drugs.
LSD WOO!
Quote from: MisterJH on April 23, 2014, 06:49:04 PM
LSD WOO!
Never tried it, but walked home with my friend today who was tripping. He seemed to be having a blast.
I promise you he was.. He was having some of the most fun of his entire life.. Perhaps the most fun... Peace love unity etc
Seriously, if you can get some grade A real .poo. i highly recommend *NOT* doing it cuz drugs are bad.. ;)<----
Quote from: Muggywuggy on April 23, 2014, 06:01:16 PM
D.A.R.E. graduate
That was a fun class in 5th grade(drugs are really excellent ). Also the war on drugs. Thanks barb bush.
As far as my opinions on drugs. If a person has an addictive problem any vice can/will mess them up (drugs, alcohol, even gambling). I know several functional drug addicts, yea most of them smoke weed and not much harder. I have also separated myself from some of the people who went down the wrong path. Basically to each their as long as it doesn't start effect ion other people in a negative way.
Oh drugs arent good for sure but in small amounts theres really no reason to worry. If you lose 5 brain cells for example every time you trip well just trip once a year it doesnt matter. Americans are consuming unbelievable amounts of sugar every day that has to be way worse than the occasional drug use(it is, look at our obesity omgoodness)
The problem isnt drugs, its moderation. People have low self control, theres an addiction risk etc etc
But for the most part you could do heroine extremely safely for example in controlle doses. Just sayin
My stance is drugs with low addiction risk should be legalized honestly. Crack, no, LSD go for it. If someone wants to chronically use X or cid they will anyways so just make it safer for em. Yea, that just happened
I never said heroine wasnt addictive, just that it was relatively safe in correct doses. In fact if proper precaution is taken its pretty damn safe and could be sustained for one's entire life though its unlikely to be that careful for an exteded period of time. Im just sayig its possible
LSD does not have any recorded cases of a trip lasting more than a day. Those are propaganda that was made up about acid. It doesn't kill brain cells ( studies actually suggest it helps transmitters work better) it has positive emotional effects for people with mental issues ( again studies are ou there educate yourself!). It does have the occational story of someone having a bad experience but no ones ever killed themselfs or severely injured anyone on LSD. Heroin and coke and tweak should never be legal, but all the others are safer than people know. LSD extasy mushrooms marijuana and most psychedelics improve brain function and emotional state. Small minorities of people having ba reactions to them is very rare.
And yes you do stop tripping after your lsd.. Or are you saying people never stop using acid after their first time? Wrong again, im a single time user, by choice. Its just not something to do recreationally it has to be a very special experience/opportunity imo
And believe me i think ive done more research than many and my fair share of field testing as well
Again your adding your fear of something you know nothing about in a hands on sense to what it is. People don't get instantly hooked on anything. It's different for every single individual, I've iv'd H a total of once. By your logic, I should be an addicted mess searching for my next hit, which I'm not. Drugs aren't black and white my friend, and neither is how people get addicted. Guareentee you walk around successful heavy drug users everyday an ont even know it.
How about this example: i did pills every day almost for 3 months straight. Oxy/roxy whatever, morphine even twice. I snorted a vast majority of them. Guess how addicted i got? Not at all. Not one bit addicted. Ive done pills twice since then, its been a year and a half. Was it a bad idea? In the sense that it was illegal yes, other than that? No. It made no lasting impact on my life. As the above poster said its just not black an white whatsoever. And no, heroine in and of itself has very little effect on your insides provided you take 'safe' doses. It also has significantly easier withdrawals than alcohol(alcohol's can kill)
Just saying, youve heard plenty about how awful they are but you dont really seem to be FULLY informed, just informed of the extreme bad cases. And thats totally fine and probaby a good thing, because you may be easily addicted and it will keep you from trying something and ruining your life, so i support your stance fully i just disagree with how you express it as fact.
Whereas in my case, from much experimentation ive come to the conclusion that ill likely never get psychologically addicted to a substance and have yet to get physically addicted, so i can be pretty confident in drug use, but thats only from blind experimentation. I could just have easily been one of the examples you propose and been horribly addicted to morphine right now. Im just a lucky guy in that sense
I agree with everything you just said!
Alcoholism runs in my family strong but i also seem to have escaped that cuz i dont really like to drink
Yes im aware it probably was harmful to snort 10+ pills a day for months
It probably isnt all that harmful to do something like that every couple months
Those are basically all my arguments. I dont disagree with what you said per se and i think your views are the safest and probably the best, i just think you should be aware that drugs are NOT a problem for a lot of people, and many actually thrive and hold very good jobs etc on drugs. Just something to be aware of in order to keep a realistic view is all im saying
This thread was about a holiday completely dedicated to smoking weed. Thats what 4/20 is. Its the nationally recognized pot holiday. This wasnt about easter save for the fact that they happened to fall on the same date. Or am i wrong? I was under the impression this started as a 4/20 thread not an easter thread. Let me look
I stand corrected then
Assumptions confirmed. This thread was about pot not easter. Also it was a dead thread so i believe threadjacking it for the purpose of continued drug talk is not all that unacceptable, as it serves no further purpose. Just sayin
Read my above post
I did and i +1d that ish cuz good sportsmanship and such. No biggie broseph.
The notion that one instance is the end game for all people who use drugs is silly. It's unfortunate when a personal family member is affected by drug use, but the abuse stems deeper than the chemical abuse, they have had those issues before drugs of any sort were introduced.
And the idea that marijuana is guaranteed to lead everyone else to heroin or crack is just as correct as drinking a soda will make you obese.
Quote from: Muggywuggy on April 23, 2014, 10:35:15 PM
The notion that one instance is the end game for all people who use drugs is silly. It's unfortunate when a personal family member is affected by drug use, but the abuse stems deeper than the chemical abuse, they have had those issues before drugs of any sort were introduced.
And the idea that marijuana is guaranteed to lead everyone else to heroin or crack is just as correct as drinking a soda will make you obese.
In response to the soda: well.. Sugar is highly addictive(and were conditioned to ingest high enough quantities to qualify for addiction on the reg) and every soda does indeed contribute to obesity now dunnit? But same argument as drugs, an occasional soda will have no lasting harm as long as you drink the right amount of soda and dont react unnaturally.
Sorry im a health nut, had to tackle the word soda :p
Quote from: Muggywuggy on April 23, 2014, 10:35:15 PM
The notion that one instance is the end game for all people who use drugs is silly. It's unfortunate when a personal family member is affected by drug use, but the abuse stems deeper than the chemical abuse, they have had those issues before drugs of any sort were introduced.
And the idea that marijuana is guaranteed to lead everyone else to heroin or crack is just as correct as drinking a soda will make you obese.
As a fat guy, I disagree with that. I ate a skittle once and BAM, 911! How do you explain that?!
Skittles are chemically designed to make spencer addingtons chubby. Theres like studies n stuff
People like being high because its boatloads of fun. Science ;) lol
Quote from: Taysby on April 23, 2014, 10:56:09 PM
It's not garnered that marajuana will lead them to harder drugs, but the probabibility goes way up.
Yes, once every few months for a year won't do much, but people like feeling high and want to do it more. That's the general rule of thumb. There will be exceptions to it,
As someone who smokes pot daily. I can assure you the high I get from pot is much different from mushrooms, ecstasy, cocaine etc.
I feel you're informed by Internet propaganda and one personal story. Rather than objectively approaching the subject; you prefer to state a false truth to generalize a large population percentage. Your last 3 presidents have admitted to use of drugs. So by your logic, G Dubs is diving into piles of cocaine and bath salts right now.
Barry admitted use of cocaine and marijuana
Dubya was arrested for possession of cocaine
And Slick Willy said "he did not inhale" but many sources claim use of cocaine etc.
Quote from: Taysby on April 23, 2014, 11:48:36 PM
I'm not saying it will cause addiction, but it makes people more likely to try different drugs to get a better high.
You must have missed the part where I mentioned the highs experienced by different substances are very different and unrelated. The high from cocaine is very different from marihuana. People on cocaine do not like weed & vice versa with the occasional exception
Washington grew cannabis on his farm, cmon!
And the 'gateway drug' thing is just a dumb theory to explain why people smoke weed then end up trying other stuff. Chances are that theyd have tried other stuff regardless(based on their personality not previous experience with marijuana) but weed is just so prevalent that its the first drug most people are exposed to. That doesnt mean its caused it or is even related, its just how it usually happens due to availability.
I know you agree it should be legal i just want to express again my belief that people ought to be allowed to ruin their lives if they so choose. Theyll do it anyways, at least give them the legal right to :)
Not arguing, just restating lol
Trust me you know if youre trippn ;)
With all due respect though, in all seriousness i think youve been horriby misinformed about lsd, just throwing that out there. Idk what information youve gotten from what sources but it truly is a more benign substance, sure mid trip youre a little whack but other than that youre fairly functional, enough so that you can drive with less impairment than being even tipsy would give. Lsd is fairly benign and safe, and the crackig your spine for another hit thing, well no matter how mch you drop that hit will be so weak its more like smoking a bowl than taking a hit
Also you have little to fear of someone tripping. Lsd only induces hallucinations/serious delusions at very high doses relatively(barring mental instability or bad reaction beforehand). Even then the vast majority of hallucinationsa are simply colorful geometric patterns and delusions of life being perfect and harmonious, hardly something to fear or be threatened by.
I just dont understand where you are getting this future trips idea/info
There is no way to release enough acid from your spine to induce that kind of hallucination
Its hard enough to trip that hard on tabs. Youd have to take 2-3 times a normal dose AT LEAST
Mind highlighting the part that says you trip after extensive use? I can' only see the details of good and bad trips.
First of all: .coms are funded and inherently are biased. Most studies on food and drugs are funded by guess who? Food and drug companies. Also seeing as most illicit drugs are well.. Illicit there have not been nearly enough studies to have any verifiable evidence including with marijuana. Theres not enough extensive studies to know that ish. Yes you have poorer judgment(mostly during the few hours of major balls tripping) so drivig is probably a bad idea, but for the most part if youre psychologically healthy you should be just fine. I dont think getting all your info from science.com is very fair or accurate. Until it is legalized nobody really knows wtf drugs do, there isnt enough evidence not funded by people trying to keep drugs off the street. Imagine how many tests etc are funded by DEA-supporting administrations who have an irrational fear of drugs without basis? I recommend you watch 'Bigger, Stronger, Faster'
Or it might be 'Bigger, Faster, Stronger' on netflix, youll see how steroids for example were demonized. When you get to the part about the teenage baseball player who committed suicide pay close attention and have your eyes opened to the truth.
You do not I. repeat, DO NOT trip months or years after a trip. They don't come out of nowhere. Only happens when your using LSD. I've used it four to six times a year, as has many if my friends. None of us have any "random trips" don't drive tripping, and like most people generally feel good when tripping. Stop fear mongering and listening to biased sources, and learn a bit about it for your self.
Instead of believing everything you read is fact, drop some acid and find some truth.
These blind accusations you keep copy and pasting are ignorant. You honestly want to believe the DEA? How can you trust the government when the FDA approves McDonald's for human consumption but hassles distributors of raw honey (non grade A = medicinal & rare). Lobbyist tell you what should be legal, look at big tobacco - e cigs took over the market, now big tobacco got them to be illegal in LA and NYC. That's absurd. An alternative to smoking cigs which got many people to reduce smoking and even quit is now illegal in many common areas..
Anyway point is: everything you read is not absolute truth, even if it says it is.
Approaching everything fear based will only lead to you living with your parents at 30 with several boxes of magic cards.
Seems muggywuggy has much experience xD
I used to be fear based and now that's changed
So were not sayig try drugs but we are saying that the approach of reading a .poo. website and basing all your knowledge off that is not a way to live. It could be a slippery slope of lameness, expand your knowledge... Like be realistic about everything, which you have not been as far as i can tell
You guys really need to get your facts. Watch the movie reefer madness. Great propaganda there
I love that movie hahah
I actually couldn't sit thru the whole thing. Way too far out there for me.
Haha lmfao
It's not even fair how this thread exploded XD all I can say is, taysby. You have no idea what you are talking about. If you use facts you learned in high school health against educated stoners. You're gonna have a bad time. But everyone else. You're all good people
Its not that hes bad hes just uninformed(or misinformed) sorry its the truth. Maybe one day there will be real research and real answers
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 04:28:42 PM
Its not that hes bad hes just uninformed(or misinformed) sorry its the truth. Maybe one day there will be real research and real answers
Well the thing is there has been research! Multiple studies done over the world have proven cannabis to have beneficial healing properties. It's just the years of misinformation and lies that have led people (mostly Americans) to believe that marijuana is harmful and leads to other drug use. It's really sad when there are facts to back it up :P
Ok just because taysbys uninformed doesnt mean we can be too
Its been way too restricted for year for extensive studies
It could ruin our brains, we DONT KNOW
Also health benefits only really help if youve got the particular health issues. As i have no glaucoma(whatever the .love. that is) or chemo, there arent health benefits see? There are just as many studies supporting as there are making marijuana out to be bad. They are most likely all biase as hell because until its legalized there wont be any unbiased, extensive studies(or at least there havent been). Im being realistic, i think its fun and totaly worth it buts its irresponsible to say we know that weed is good and totally safe and will cause no problems. Its the only reason y brothers failed out of college and now works in a damn warehouse. Its not a wonderdrug that has no side effects. If we want to patronize taysby for silliness we cant return being unrealistic ourselves.
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 05:14:12 PM
Ok just because taysbys uninformed doesnt mean we can be too
Its been way too restricted for year for extensive studies
It could ruin our brains, we DONT KNOW
Also health benefits only really help if youve got the particular health issues. As i have no glaucoma(whatever the .love. that is) or chemo, there arent health benefits see? There are just as many studies supporting as there are making marijuana out to be bad. They are most likely all biase as hell because until its legalized there wont be any unbiased, extensive studies(or at least there havent been). Im being realistic, i think its fun and totaly worth it buts its irresponsible to say we know that weed is good and totally safe and will cause no problems. Its the only reason y brothers failed out of college and now works in a damn warehouse. Its not a wonderdrug that has no side effects. If we want to patronize taysby for silliness we cant return being unrealistic ourselves.
Well yeah I completely understand how both sides could stand on this. But the way I see it. There is scientific "evidence" that the pros of the consumption of thc outweigh the cons and that the cons of consumption don't risk your immediate health. It does bring laziness, difficulty operating machinery, and emptiness of your fridge. But experiencing first hand the benefits of marijuana with no major side affects besides forgetting things XD Im confident I'll be medicating my entire life
Stand by your side i support that, but dont propagandize for marijuana same as they do against it passing off your biased info as fact and their biased info as bull. I just find that irresponsible when were trying to help expand Taysby's knowledge on the subject.
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 05:31:28 PM
Stand by your side i support that, but dont propagandize for marijuana same as they do against it passing off your biased info as fact and their biased info as bull. I just find that irresponsible when were trying to help expand Taysby's knowledge on the subject.
Yeah I get that. I never said taysby was stupid or anything idk how that came off but there is no evidence that it will ruin your life, that all depends on the individual. When I talk about the pros and cons my knowledge comes from actual research done by International scientists that have proved it to be atleast a little bit beneficial. I know it could be biase but as far as I'm concerned throughout human history cannabis has been used by countless civilizations throughout thousands of years with no proof of anything physically harmful
I know and im not trying to be chastising lol idk it just seemed odd to say taysbys information was off and that there was no issues whatsoever with marijuana when other research disagrees is all. Im simply trying to advocate a full understand of both sides is all
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 05:45:58 PM
I know and im not trying to be chastising lol idk it just seemed odd to say taysbys information was off and that there was no issues whatsoever with marijuana when other research disagrees is all. Im simply trying to advocate a full understand of both sides is all
That makes sense I usually take the neutral ground with this but I got carried away XD taysby if you read this I still love you <3
We all do <3 hahah
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 05:57:07 PM
...that's creepy... Jk
What studies show that dugs have no bad side effects. Show me one. It might be biased, but for me, I go off of research and I have yet to see a study showing that drugs have no bad side effects.
I get that certain dugs can have therapeutic effects, but there's always a better option. My dad is a pharmacist who studies this kind of stuff. 99.99% of the time! you can fix a problem with something different than currently illicit drugs. Sure there is the occasional exception, but the masses don't need them to solve their problems.
But everything is bad for you...
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 05:57:07 PM
...that's creepy... Jk
What studies show that dugs have no bad side effects. Show me one. It might be biased, but for me, I go off of research and I have yet to see a study showing that drugs have no bad side effects.
I get that certain dugs can have therapeutic effects, but there's always a better option. My dad is a pharmacist who studies this kind of stuff. 99.99% of the time! you can fix a problem with something different than currently illicit drugs. Sure there is the occasional exception, but the masses don't need them to solve their problems.
Well I don't have a link at the ready for you sorry :P but pharmaceuticals are some of the worst things you could take to affect your body. "You're depressed? Ok here's a medication for that. Don't worry about the liver failure, seizures, heart attacks, brain anurisms. Trust us."
I understand how people need these drugs for their lives and it's fine but it is so false that prescription drugs will make everything better. They'll fix one problem but give you 5 more. I know I can't change your mind but do some research for yourself and try to see the other side of the issue
Theres tons of studies showing marijuana has no side effects besides amotivation and short term memory issues related to being under the influence, both of which clear up once off the drug. Not invested enough to look em up.
Also plenty that say it affects brain chemistry permanently.
Research is a bad thing to base your judgments off of TayTay(isnt that cute lmfaooooo) as so much of it is biased and funded by people wanting a specific result from the research, and thus make sure the study turns out that way. In fact if you base your opinions purely on studies well youll be sorely misinformed about everything in the world. In particular the food industry, studies about all that .poo. are funded by food companies/investors/ someone whos got money riding on the masses believing unhealthy food is actually healthy.
Heres an example: many cannabis studies have been funded by the lumber industry(at least back when it first was illegalized) because they had a vested interest in cannabis NOT being around. They had massive amounts of money, and surprise surprise cannabis is illegal. I also believe there have been studies funded by cigarette producers on the negative effects of cannabis though i heard that word of mouth so i cant be sure, but i believe it. PLEASE dont believe everything you read.. The only reliable information in the world anymore is what you experience firsthand and anecdotes, everyone else is trying to lie to you to get money, get your vote, whatever it is. Im not exaggerating you are being lied to daily by all these sources, all these studies... They arent to be believe just because theyre 'official.' I promise you living your life more in the know is very beneficial, itll keep you healthier mentally and physically in the long run.
I actually take the words 'a study shows' as a huge red flag to not believe anything following until further notice, its probably a lie!
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 06:08:00 PM
Theres tons of studies showing marijuana has no side effects besides amotivation and short term memory issues related to being under the influence, both of which clear up once off the drug. Not invested enough to look em up.
Also plenty that say it affects brain chemistry permanently.
Research is a bad thing to base your judgments off of TayTay(isnt that cute lmfaooooo) as so much of it is biased and funded by people wanting a specific result from the research, and thus make sure the study turns out that way. In fact if you base your opinions purely on studies well youll be sorely misinformed about everything in the world. In particular the food industry, studies about all that .poo. are funded by food companies/investors/ someone whos got money riding on the masses believing unhealthy food is actually healthy.
Heres an example: many cannabis studies have been funded by the lumber industry(at least back when it first was illegalized) because they had a vested interest in cannabis NOT being around. They had massive amounts of money, and surprise surprise cannabis is illegal. I also believe there have been studies funded by cigarette producers on the negative effects of cannabis though i heard that word of mouth so i cant be sure, but i believe it. PLEASE dont believe everything you read.. The only reliable information in the world anymore is what you experience firsthand and anecdotes, everyone else is trying to lie to you to get money, get your vote, whatever it is. Im not exaggerating you are being lied to daily by all these sources, all these studies... They arent to be believe just because theyre 'official.' I promise you living your life more in the know is very beneficial, itll keep you healthier mentally and physically in the long run.
I actually take the words 'a study shows' as a huge red flag to not believe anything following until further notice, its probably a lie!
You have a really solid point even though it also has to do with my argument XD
Oh i totaly forgot about the prescription drug lies god forbid... And dont those go hand in hand with the food industry... OH WAIT THATS TH BIGGEST LIE AND CONSPIRACY IN THE FREAKIN WORLD! Our .poo. nutrition=conditions=prescription drugs that a lot of people wouldnt need if the food industry wasnt so effed. Look it up they support each other so hard. If nutrition was better the drug industry would crash and burn. It goes really deep i cant even begin to get into it on here.
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
Oh i totaly forgot about the prescription drug lies god forbid... And dont those go hand in hand with the food industry... OH WAIT THATS TH BIGGEST LIE AND CONSPIRACY IN THE FREAKIN WORLD! Our .poo. nutrition=conditions=prescription drugs that a lot of people wouldnt need if the food industry wasnt so effed. Look it up they support each other so hard. If nutrition was better the drug industry would crash and burn. It goes really deep i cant even begin to get into it on here.
Yeah I'm just gonna stick to the pot subject XD I'm not even gonna go there
Haha ill let you look into that if youd like taysby itll open your eyes on 'studies' in general.
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 08:13:58 PM
Prescriptions. Most of the time, saying that just covers their bases to avoid gettin sued. Most of the time, there a few to no bade side effects.
Studies. I don't believe everything I read, but when all of the studies say something without being disproven, I believe those. If you give me studies by reputable sources like mayo or something, then I'll believe it.
Marajuana has more carcinogens then cigarettes. Maby the drug in it is harmless I'm not going to argue that right now, but you are more likely to get cancer from marajuana than cigaretts.
ok I know we all have our own opinion and I respect that. But I would like to point out how .loving. wrong you are about the carcinogens. Cannabanoids, Which is something that goes along with thc in pot, HAVE shown results in effectively shutting down, and suppressing active cancer cells. These Cannabanoids have no mind altering properties and are recognized to have healing capabilities. The only direct link with marijuana and cancer is the fact that it has the ability to treat and cure the affects from cancer. You have your opinion and that's fine, just like I have mine. But I really think you should do your own research and make your own decisions about these things and not listen to what your peers tell you. If you did maybe you would see any legit research shows that there is no link to cancer and marijuana. Fin
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 08:44:12 PM
Ummm.. Mayo clinic released that information so I'm pretty sure they are right...
So your small health clinic, or science? Which to believe.... Hmm
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 08:13:58 PM
Prescriptions. Most of the time, saying that just covers their bases to avoid gettin sued. Most of the time, there a few to no bade side effects.
Studies. I don't believe everything I read, but when all of the studies say something without being disproven, I believe those. If you give me studies by reputable sources like mayo or something, then I'll believe it.
Marajuana has more carcinogens then cigarettes. Maby the drug in it is harmless I'm not going to argue that right now, but you are more likely to get cancer from marajuana than cigaretts.
Ok who funds mayo clinic? People who dont want legal cannabis im sure man. Ok all i can say is i encourage you to be openminded but youre being brainwashed and i wont be able to change that.
Also, studies have show there are lower rates of cancer in cannabis smokers. Notice cancer is almost NEVER brought up as a warning against weed. In fact studies have shown cannabis to slow the growth of cancer. If you go by studies you have to actually read studies or else youre just believing the first thing you see and that makes for no argument. Research it, and keep it mind its all biased and you have to make these decisions for yourself. No, mayo clinic does not = reputable source on all things marijuana. Its too controlled for good studies to be done
Also you clearly have no knowledge of the prescription drug problem in america either... Everything has side effects but that doesnt begin to explain the damage of a pill for every ill mentality. Many of these chemicals are simply unnatural to be in your body, much more so than marijuana. The damage it does chemically, the alters in mood perception etc are not noted but they ARE there. I know this because the american prescription drug craze where nobody taks responsibility for their life and simply takes more drugs is a HUGE topic to me as im somewhat of a health nut. So i know ive spent more time on this than you. So if you are going to listen to reason then until such time as youve taken a fair stance on prescription medication allow me to inform you of just how fucked up it is.
P.S. Im not meaning this in any negative way im legitimately trying to let you knkw that prescription drug america is not benign, it is not safe or healthy. Its a multibillion dollar industry that thrives on us being unhealthy and requiring medication to feel 'normal.'
Does that sound ok to you? An entire industry dedicated to keeping us sick so they can then regulate us, often with gross side effects?
But no, cannabis is bad.
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 09:11:43 PM
Also you clearly have no knowledge of the prescription drug problem in america either... Everything has side effects but that doesnt begin to explain the damage of a pill for every ill mentality. Many of these chemicals are simply unnatural to be in your body, much more so than marijuana. The damage it does chemically, the alters in mood perception etc are not noted but they ARE there. I know this because the american prescription drug craze where nobody taks responsibility for their life and simply takes more drugs is a HUGE topic to me as im somewhat of a health nut. So i know ive spent more time on this than you. So if you are going to listen to reason then until such time as youve taken a fair stance on prescription medication allow me to inform you of just how fucked up it is.
P.S. Im not meaning this in any negative way im legitimately trying to let you knkw that prescription drug america is not benign, it is not safe or healthy. Its a multibillion dollar industry that thrives on us being unhealthy and requiring medication to feel 'normal.'
Does that sound ok to you? An entire industry dedicated to keeping us sick so they can then regulate us, often with gross side effects?
But no, cannabis is bad.
Drugs are bad. Mmk? I see cannabis as an herb not a drug. Herbs smell good
Lol that was tongue in cheek if you couldnt tell
Quote from: Garblefarb on April 24, 2014, 09:18:25 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 09:11:43 PM
Also you clearly have no knowledge of the prescription drug problem in america either... Everything has side effects but that doesnt begin to explain the damage of a pill for every ill mentality. Many of these chemicals are simply unnatural to be in your body, much more so than marijuana. The damage it does chemically, the alters in mood perception etc are not noted but they ARE there. I know this because the american prescription drug craze where nobody taks responsibility for their life and simply takes more drugs is a HUGE topic to me as im somewhat of a health nut. So i know ive spent more time on this than you. So if you are going to listen to reason then until such time as youve taken a fair stance on prescription medication allow me to inform you of just how fucked up it is.
P.S. Im not meaning this in any negative way im legitimately trying to let you knkw that prescription drug america is not benign, it is not safe or healthy. Its a multibillion dollar industry that thrives on us being unhealthy and requiring medication to feel 'normal.'
Does that sound ok to you? An entire industry dedicated to keeping us sick so they can then regulate us, often with gross side effects?
But no, cannabis is bad.
Drugs are bad. Mmk? I see cannabis as an herb not a drug. Herbs smell good
Drug
/noun/
a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body.
Cannabis fits under that perfectly. It may be a herb but it is also a drug
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.
Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased. Where is your proof for cannibis preventing cancer?
Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
It was never claimed in any scientific anything that it cured cancer. Just that it calmed the people after treatments
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on April 24, 2014, 09:52:36 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.
Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased. Where is your proof for cannibis preventing cancer?
Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
It was never claimed in any scientific anything that it cured cancer. Just that it calmed the people after treatments
Well that's false in a way. It doesn't cure cancer nobody said that it helps treat the symptoms of cancer.
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.
Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased. Where is your proof for cannibis preventing cancer?
Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
Look no matter what you do putting any drug in your system is not the healthy choice. Some are worse than others clearly. Like aspirin is better than ridilin. And won't mess you up as bad, but no matter how you look at it drugs are not the way to solve our issues. And as its been pointed out mayo is a biased company that has its research funded by anti marijuana "groups" what do you expect they're going to say?
Quote from: Garblefarb on April 24, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.
Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased. Where is your proof for cannibis preventing cancer?
Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
Look no matter what you do putting any drug in your system is not the healthy choice. Some are worse than others clearly. Like aspirin is better than ridilin. And won't mess you up as bad, but no matter how you look at it drugs are not the way to solve our issues. And as its been pointed out mayo is a biased company that has its research funded by anti marijuana "groups" what do you expect they're going to say?
Did you read the first page? I take insulin. I'm fine. Without it I wouldn't be here. Drugs are not always bad.
Quote from: Juvia, Water Woman on April 24, 2014, 10:13:37 PM
Quote from: Garblefarb on April 24, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.
Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased. Where is your proof for cannibis preventing cancer?
Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
Look no matter what you do putting any drug in your system is not the healthy choice. Some are worse than others clearly. Like aspirin is better than ridilin. And won't mess you up as bad, but no matter how you look at it drugs are not the way to solve our issues. And as its been pointed out mayo is a biased company that has its research funded by anti marijuana "groups" what do you expect they're going to say?
Did you read the first page? I take insulin. I'm fine. Without it I wouldn't be here. Drugs are not always bad.
I agree, my great grandfather is living proof. The guy is STILL ALIVE after all these years and takes tons of prescription drugs every day. As the oldest member of our family to ever live, I think he can attest to the good that many prescription drugs can do. Not all are good of course, it is always wise to weigh the good against the bad.
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.
Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased. Where is your proof for cannibis preventing cancer?
Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
What? Do you understand bias? Mayo could be extremely bias. If people stopped getting sick(like maybe ate properly not of a 60% processed food diet) and exercised theyd e out of business. EVERYONE has bias, its just how close is their bias to the issue at hand
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.
Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased. Where is your proof for cannibis preventing cancer?
Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
And not always, you can use them perfectly and still be harmed. Research 'holistic treatment' thats how you do more good than harm. Prescription drugs do more harm in many cases because it fixed people problems by force with side effects rather than addressing the roots of their problems which is the real way to do it. Diabetes? Hollistic treatment can help/cure in some cases. Cancer? Yep. Heart disease? Yep. But is hollistic medicine the first option, since its the safest and healthiest? No, because there is no money in that. Dude prescription drug companies dont give a damn about anyone, they want money and are as evil as any other corporation. The only ones who give a .poo. or ever did about helping are the ones who invented these drugs, and they were meant for people who needed them because they had no other choice. There are people who are born defective in their genes and get diabetes that way, then there are people who literally bring it upon themselves. Do they get treated differently? No. The difference? Person B could have prevented it and could potentially still help themselves. But instead they get prescription medication. How is that not monumentally fucked up? Its all about money open your eyes. Marijuana is illegal because the lumber industry wanted money. Alcohol is legal because it was making money. Cigarettes are legal cuz its a lot of money. Prescription drugs are so prevalent because money. Processed food and soda that are as addictive and unhealthy as any drug addiction are touted as safe because MONEY. OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE.
Everyone is dying, so why not enjoy life to the fullest?
Small note Mister... There is NO cure for type 1 diabetes and type 2 only exhsts when people are extremely obese, excercuse and good food fix that one.
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 10:49:34 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on April 24, 2014, 10:48:15 PM
Everyone is dying, so why not enjoy life to the fullest?
So you live an extra 20 years before you die playing magic...
So since I smoke once a week in guaranteed to die 20 years early?
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 10:46:33 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 10:37:22 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.
Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased. Where is your proof for cannibis preventing cancer?
Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
And not always, you can use them perfectly and still be harmed. Research 'holistic treatment' thats how you do more good than harm. Prescription drugs do more harm in many cases because it fixed people problems by force with side effects rather than addressing the roots of their problems which is the real way to do it. Diabetes? Hollistic treatment can help/cure in some cases. Cancer? Yep. Heart disease? Yep. But is hollistic medicine the first option, since its the safest and healthiest? No, because there is no money in that. Dude prescription drug companies dont give a damn about anyone, they want money and are as evil as any other corporation. The only ones who give a .poo. or ever did about helping are the ones who invented these drugs, and they were meant for people who needed them because they had no other choice. There are people who are born defective in their genes and get diabetes that way, then there are people who literally bring it upon themselves. Do they get treated differently? No. The difference? Person B could have prevented it and could potentially still help themselves. But instead they get prescription medication. How is that not monumentally fucked up? Its all about money open your eyes. Marijuana is illegal because the lumber industry wanted money. Alcohol is legal because it was making money. Cigarettes are legal cuz its a lot of money. Prescription drugs are so prevalent because money. Processed food and soda that are as addictive and unhealthy as any drug addiction are touted as safe because MONEY. OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE.
Most of the time prescription are perfectly safe. The FDA wouldn't allow anything else. Accidents do happen, but you need to open your eyes. I'm talking with my dad on this and he has studied it for 30+ years! He knows what he's talking about and I haven't seen a single source from you! You're making stuff up like cannibis cures cancer. I thought I might be misinformed, but when people clarified it, I realized you're full of crap.
Also, I'm glad to know people support me. I dislike being a loner. :P
I think your confusig me with.. Who knows. I never said cannabis cures cancer. I said there hae been studies sayig it inhibits growth. I think garblefarb is the one who made some of the more extreme claims
AND YOU REALLY THINK THE FDA DOESNT APPROVE DANGEROUS DRUGS?! How about.. Antidepressants? How about... steroids for cows that inhibit proper development of certain glands in the brain, which are illegal everywhere in the world, except US and canada because its unsafe. Dude.. You really are brainwashed. I know what the .love. im talking about. I know the FDA operates under the thumn of the food and drug industries. This isnt conspiracy theory or some secret, this is well documented .poo. that happens daily. Your very food is loaded with unsafe chemicals. If you ignore everything i say because youre very closeminded about this entire subject despite me being very open, objective and completely honest about things i know to be true, so be it. But if you honestly think the FDA has your best interest in mind, if you think your food and drugs are so safe, if you think half the .poo. you seem to think youre being lied to straight to your face. And it should piss you off man. It should really piss you off. And you cant even begin to claim im full of .poo.. Im nt even DOING DRUGS right now, im NOT biased, i have supported your points of view on MULTIPLE occassions. Just because i expect you to be willing to do some research on your own rather than providing your opinions for you does not mean i make this .poo. up. you are living a lie man, with all due respect if you knew what i knew probably your entire view would be shattered. But if youd rather not face those demon(they are ugly demons man, dont get me wrong) thats your choice. Id rather you not discredit all that i say that i know is true and call me a bullshitter however, simply because you are ignorant of the .politics. of the FDA, the .politics. of 'unbiased' studies, the pill for an ill trap of America, and countless other things. Thats MY definition of bullshit. If you refuse to take anything from what i say for whatever reason, perhaps because i refuse to provide the links for you thats youre perfectly capable of findig yourself, so be it. But say that, not that im full of bullshit. Because im not. This is one of my primary interests in the modern world, and as such i have found at least some truth behind it, such as the truth about marijuana(the truth is we have no idea of the longterm effects)
The truth of processed food and big market america
The truth about prescription medications. Instead of telling me to do research, do your own. I can guarantee ive done more than you. I havent posted one site and said 'this is where iget all my info, and i talked to my dad so those two together must know everything'
Ive referred to probably 10 different studies, documentaries, things to research, and examples of what im trying to say, just not by name. If you choose not to spend the time looking at it in depth(which i support, i already told you your viewpoint is the safest and perfectly ok) then dont man, but do NOT dare tell me im full of bullshit, cuz ive spent too much time determining bullshit and what you believe and what we live in is bullshit.
Rant complete. Thank you *bows*
And guess who else was on your side man. ME. I said you have a fair enough view. I was simply advocating and speaking the truth. Idt ive said much that was unreasonable, nor have i said anything far fetched or that strays far from the truth. W/e doh
Quote from: Juvia, Water Woman on April 24, 2014, 10:52:52 PM
Small note Mister... There is NO cure for type 1 diabetes and type 2 only exhsts when people are extremely obese, excercuse and good food fix that one.
I know i referenced that some people have a genetic problem or something in that area that causes it. I understand that and its rather unfortunate. But i didnt say anythig to the contrary
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 10:57:12 PM
Quote from: Garblefarb on April 24, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.
Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased. Where is your proof for cannibis preventing cancer?
Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
Look no matter what you do putting any drug in your system is not the healthy choice. Some are worse than others clearly. Like aspirin is better than ridilin. And won't mess you up as bad, but no matter how you look at it drugs are not the way to solve our issues. And as its been pointed out mayo is a biased company that has its research funded by anti marijuana "groups" what do you expect they're going to say?
I've covered mayo
Overall drugs leave you in a much better place than you were found in. You might have 1 side effect of mild headaches, but your lethal infection went away. Oh no, it hurt your body. :P. You don't know what you are talkin about.
You don't by chance do the essential oil crap, do you?
Im not speaking to antibiotics to cure infections, i think that should have been obvious. Also you mistake me being realistic about companies who benefit from a study going one way paying for said studies as taking a random shot in the dark. I have no idea how mayo gets their funds, it was just an example that may or may not have been relevant. If you believe tht .poo. doesnt happen your just deliberately ignoring some truths. But again, what can i do?
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:05:39 PM
I'm providingn something, you're providing nothing. All of the studies I have seen have verified my view point. You seem to be adamant about not posting yours, so I question if you even have them.
What are these "truths" you claim to know? Nothing is a fact I. Science. You'll see that I have been willing to change my opinion under new evidence but you won't provide me with any.
Some peoples parents restrict the internet browser on their ipad so no, as of right now, I can't dig into research. I apologize for any inconvenience.
If you would like me to, tommorow, I'll post all of the links that support my opinion on here.
Your parents restric your internet? Do you have younger siblings?
Taysby: insulting essential oil usage to support your end of the argument is quite ignorant.
Just because a bunch of old white men who own pharm companies have lobbied interest in pushing their product out while dismissing/slowly illegalizing ancient cures. Western medicine has been around for a few hundred years and natural care has helped humanity survive for thousands of years before.
Concerning marijuana and curing cancer: there is no factual proof that says ingesting mj will cure you.
However: if you research "CBD" you will find numerous recent reports of parents who allow their children MJ treatment. Slowing/stopping seizures from rare diseases/syndromes.
A friend who has had a brain tumor completely disappear after several years of cannabis oil extract ingestion. Everytime she would get better and stop using the oil, she would begin to party etc, and her tumor would return. Recently a visit to the dr showed no more signs of tumor. Not saying MJ cured her but it sure as hell helped.
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:11:01 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 11:07:34 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 10:57:12 PM
Quote from: Garblefarb on April 24, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.
Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased. Where is your proof for cannibis preventing cancer?
Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
Look no matter what you do putting any drug in your system is not the healthy choice. Some are worse than others clearly. Like aspirin is better than ridilin. And won't mess you up as bad, but no matter how you look at it drugs are not the way to solve our issues. And as its been pointed out mayo is a biased company that has its research funded by anti marijuana "groups" what do you expect they're going to say?
I've covered mayo
Overall drugs leave you in a much better place than you were found in. You might have 1 side effect of mild headaches, but your lethal infection went away. Oh no, it hurt your body. :P. You don't know what you are talkin about.
You don't by chance do the essential oil crap, do you?
Im not speaking to antibiotics to cure infections, i think that should have been obvious. Also you mistake me being realistic about companies who benefit from a study going one way paying for said studies as taking a random shot in the dark. I have no idea how mayo gets their funds, it was just an example that may or may not have been relevant. If you believe tht .poo. doesnt happen your just deliberately ignoring some truths. But again, what can i do?
Anti-biotics are prescription drugs, so you have just caught yourself in a lie.
You specifically said "mayo is a biased company that gets it's funds from anti-marajuana funds" then said no they don't. So you just caught yourself in another lie.
Piotr, can we give this guy a 10 day ban for lying? ;)
See right there? Right there you were being an antagonistic prick... ;)
My dad recently requested mJ from me due to not being able to sleep.
He already takes a Dixie cup worth of meds for blood pressure and whatnot, so when he was told to take: trapazone, norco, and Xanax in order to sleep, he tried and it made his overall world worse. Now I give him some butter here and there with smoke and he sleeps better, doesn't have to take even more pills and he's much more productive.
Once again MJ wins and benefits
I managed two dispensaries in LA so I know all spectrums of patients/users & a large population of these people are not ignorant. They are successful and proactive members of the community.
If your ipad is so restricted how can you look up links that support your views and not mine? I dont even think you know what im arguing for anymore. Im just suggesting you look into a few things, because theres documented evidence for example of companies paying for studies done on their product. I was simply trying to encourage you to look into it further since i myself have already done so. Your response so far has been 'no you're wrong post the link so i dont have to bother'
Then you kind of started being a weiner because i wont do research ive already done multiple times over, to find a link that you could google search in 5 seconds. I already know this .poo., i was just offering up a different view of the world and telling you some things that would open your eyes in some way. Dude i give up im not doing this anymore its literally hopeless.
So ill conclude with this. If you get the chance, do some serious research into:
1) the FDA, particularly 'dangerous' chemicals they've approved, biased studies theyve done
Research about companies paying for studies done to help themselves
2) the processed food crisis, the nutritional value of these foods, the sugar consumption now versus however many years ago, rising obesity. Also look at mass farming, livestock, the diets, conditions, genetic modification, steroid abuse in livestock, excessive antibiotics given to livestock... Theres all kinds of fun things to learn. This ties into the sick ass obese america which leads to guess what? Prescription meds. Which leads to what? More $$
Its a loop. I advise you learn about it. It doesnt realy matter all that much but its somethig to be aware of(it matters to me but to most it doesnt)
3) research studies supporting drugs too. If you choose to believe only the demonizing ones ok fine, but at least make yourself aware that there ARE other views supported by "studies"
Anything else i missed that i suggested people should get informed on?
See some choose to put their minds into .politics., global warming, deforestation, church. This is the .poo. i get off to. So im not comin from bullshit. Id just rather have you do this your own, because thatll be more persuasive then my 'full of crap self' posting stuff because well.. Im 'full of crap' apparently. I figured if you did it your own itd make a bigger impact. So i leave you with a short list of 3 things. Do with it what you like, spit on it, shove it up my butt. Whatever.
Now you lie by saying smoking MJ is bad, you're insulting Rastafarian sacrament.
10 day coming up ;)
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:11:01 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 11:07:34 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 10:57:12 PM
Quote from: Garblefarb on April 24, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.
Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased. Where is your proof for cannibis preventing cancer?
Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
Look no matter what you do putting any drug in your system is not the healthy choice. Some are worse than others clearly. Like aspirin is better than ridilin. And won't mess you up as bad, but no matter how you look at it drugs are not the way to solve our issues. And as its been pointed out mayo is a biased company that has its research funded by anti marijuana "groups" what do you expect they're going to say?
I've covered mayo
Overall drugs leave you in a much better place than you were found in. You might have 1 side effect of mild headaches, but your lethal infection went away. Oh no, it hurt your body. :P. You don't know what you are talkin about.
You don't by chance do the essential oil crap, do you?
Im not speaking to antibiotics to cure infections, i think that should have been obvious. Also you mistake me being realistic about companies who benefit from a study going one way paying for said studies as taking a random shot in the dark. I have no idea how mayo gets their funds, it was just an example that may or may not have been relevant. If you believe tht .poo. doesnt happen your just deliberately ignoring some truths. But again, what can i do?
Anti-biotics are prescription drugs, so you have just caught yourself in a lie.
You specifically said "mayo is a biased company that gets it's funds from anti-marajuana funds" then said no they don't. So you just caught yourself in another lie.
I asked if you believe mayo doesnt get any outside funding or migh not. I think they probably due. By prescription drugs i didnt say 'all prescription drugs including penicillin' so no thats not a lie, your nitpicking and using fallacies for your arguments. when you do that, you discredit yourself not others. Fine i shall be more specific: prescription drugs aimed at curing preventable illness caused by poor nutrition, sedentary lifestyle, a myriad of things. This includes but is not limited to: cases of depression, type II diabetes, cancer, anxiety, hormonal imbalances that cause serious issues. Is that specific enough for you or can you manage nitpick your way into anoter fallacy.
Just eat some mushrooms taysby and you'll get enlightenment.
Here's a link for source:
http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/news/20110616/magic-mushrooms-drug-shows-promise-therapeutic-tool
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:21:23 PM
You can get the same effect by extracting a chemical from it and turning it into a drug which would keep you from getting the bad carcinogens.
If in doubt, my view with marajuana is that the chemicals aren't necessarily bad, but smoking it is just as bad or worse than cigaretts.
Marinol: (synthetic Thc ) has been a failure
Turning something hnatural into a lil magic pill ain't right by nature
If corn is a suggestion for another -orn word then yes. Dk, thought it might be since you were on the subject of using the internet :p
Also, yes i like corn. No, i dont support the genetically modified frankencorn.
I think we all just need to chill out and smoke a bowl... Or 12
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:25:56 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 11:18:49 PM
If your ipad is so restricted how can you look up links that support your views and not mine? I dont even think you know what im arguing for anymore. Im just suggesting you look into a few things, because theres documented evidence for example of companies paying for studies done on their product. I was simply trying to encourage you to look into it further since i myself have already done so. Your response so far has been 'no you're wrong post the link so i dont have to bother'
Then you kind of started being a weiner because i wont do research ive already done multiple times over, to find a link that you could google search in 5 seconds. I already know this .poo., i was just offering up a different view of the world and telling you some things that would open your eyes in some way. Dude i give up im not doing this anymore its literally hopeless.
So ill conclude with this. If you get the chance, do some serious research into:
1) the FDA, particularly 'dangerous' chemicals they've approved, biased studies theyve done
Research about companies paying for studies done to help themselves
2) the processed food crisis, the nutritional value of these foods, the sugar consumption now versus however many years ago, rising obesity. Also look at mass farming, livestock, the diets, conditions, genetic modification, steroid abuse in livestock, excessive antibiotics given to livestock... Theres all kinds of fun things to learn. This ties into the sick ass obese america which leads to guess what? Prescription meds. Which leads to what? More $$
Its a loop. I advise you learn about it. It doesnt realy matter all that much but its somethig to be aware of(it matters to me but to most it doesnt)
3) research studies supporting drugs too. If you choose to believe only the demonizing ones ok fine, but at least make yourself aware that there ARE other views supported by "studies"
Anything else i missed that i suggested people should get informed on?
See some choose to put their minds into .politics., global warming, deforestation, church. This is the .poo. i get off to. So im not comin from bullshit. Id just rather have you do this your own, because thatll be more persuasive then my 'full of crap self' posting stuff because well.. Im 'full of crap' apparently. I figured if you did it your own itd make a bigger impact. So i leave you with a short list of 3 things. Do with it what you like, spit on it, shove it up my butt. Whatever.
I have spare moments in school. I did spend a moment trying to find those, but couldn't find one. :P.
Do you like corn?
ITS A TRAP!!
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When used properly and as prescribed, dugs do more good than bad.
Mayo does research and publishes all of their findings, so you can tell they aren't being biased. Where is your proof for cannibis preventing cancer?
Do I need to bring up the wine is good for you issue?
Look no matter what you do putting any drug in your system is not the healthy choice. Some are worse than others clearly. Like aspirin is better than ridilin. And won't mess you up as bad, but no matter how you look at it drugs are not the way to solve our issues. And as its been pointed out mayo is a biased company that has its research funded by anti marijuana "groups" what do you expect they're going to say?
I've covered mayo
Overall drugs leave you in a much better place than you were found in. You might have 1 side effect of mild headaches, but your lethal infection went away. Oh no, it hurt your body. :P. You don't know what you are talkin about.
You don't by chance do the essential oil crap, do you?
Im not speaking to antibiotics to cure infections, i think that should have been obvious. Also you mistake me being realistic about companies who benefit from a study going one way paying for said studies as taking a random shot in the dark. I have no idea how mayo gets their funds, it was just an example that may or may not have been relevant. If you believe tht .poo. doesnt happen your just deliberately ignoring some truths. But again, what can i do?
Anti-biotics are prescription drugs, so you have just caught yourself in a lie.
You specifically said "mayo is a biased company that gets it's funds from anti-marajuana funds" then said no they don't. So you just caught yourself in another lie.
I asked if you believe mayo doesnt get any outside funding or migh not. I think they probably due. By prescription drugs i didnt say 'all prescription drugs including penicillin' so no thats not a lie, your nitpicking and using fallacies for your arguments. when you do that, you discredit yourself not others. Fine i shall be more specific: prescription drugs aimed at curing preventable illness caused by poor nutrition, sedentary lifestyle, a myriad of things. This includes but is not limited to: cases of depression, type II diabetes, cancer, anxiety, hormonal imbalances that cause serious issues. Is that specific enough for you or can you manage nitpick your way into anoter fallacy.
Not all depression is preventable. Cancer is not always preventable. Hormonal imbalances is not always preventable. You're trying to make this black and white when it's not.
Are you goin to make me defend all of those topics too? Ughhhhh...
Dont blame your lack of close reading on me. I said.. And i QUOTE DIRECTLY... "Cases of..."
Cases of
Not all cases
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:31:13 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 24, 2014, 11:29:39 PM
If corn is a suggestion for another -orn word then yes. Dk, thought it might be since you were on the subject of using the internet :p
Also, yes i like corn. No, i dont support the genetically modified frankencorn.
All corn is genetically modified. It started with the Indians trying to make it edible. There is not 1 single breed of edible corn that isn't gmo. So, yeah. Another lie?
How is that a lie..? I knew that already? Which is why i said i dont support frankencorn? I dont eat corn anymore. Ok i support free dbate although i never intended to debate, but please dont the fallacies and false accusations man it really doesnt provide anything useful. Also virtually all food in america is unnatural in some way. Just because i eat doesnt mean i directly support it, i just so happen to enjoy beig alive. Again, no more ridiculous fallacie and accusations please
Quote from: Garblefarb on April 24, 2014, 11:29:58 PM
I think we all just need to chill out and smoke a bowl... Or 12
Wed be talking about taco bell right now
More than likely, if that says anything about the numerous benefits of smerkin a bowl. :)
And also if you call another bs lie thats not a lie but rather you just kind of.. Idk, im starting to think youre high af and trolling... Anyways im going to seriously get upset and aggrivated, its really kind of getting out of hand
The topic was happy 4/20... This is way off topic, so let's just get back to living our lives how we want to without some people bringing their judgmental vibes in here.
Well its evolved into another topic since the 4/20 one was done with yknow? And it would be a pain to make anther post when this one is so full of.. Well.. Stuff lol
So just accept this threadjack :p
I didnt say i dont like corn. Again. I said i dont support it. I didnt even say what i dont like that its become, because its fake. But i definitely didnt say i dont like it. Word choice is relevant here, extremely so apparently. In fact i LOVE corn, i simply dont eat it anymore.
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:30:06 PM
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You can get the same effect by extracting a chemical from it and turning it into a drug which would keep you from getting the bad carcinogens.
If in doubt, my view with marajuana is that the chemicals aren't necessarily bad, but smoking it is just as bad or worse than cigaretts.
Marinol: (synthetic Thc ) has been a failure
Turning something hnatural into a lil magic pill ain't right by nature
How many times did Edison fail at making a lightbulb? Eventually it worked, and worked good.
Now you're just trolling. I hope you actually discover truth rather than live in the mr Mackey bubble.
Lol hindsight is the cure to everything
Good gravy. Didn't expect this to be a 13+ page topic...
Well i might be off this forum in the next couple days and this really hasnt gone anywhere or accomplished anything, in fact its most degenerated into a bunch of stupid chit chat. So ill check in tomorrow once or twice but barring any major developments ill probably just refrain from posting and simply refer you back to my suggested topics to research in depth.
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:55:41 PM
In those few cases, drugs aren't the best option. The best option would be to have made better lifestyle choices, but it's better than nothing. Being obese and getting type 2 diabetes makes you need medication to live long enough to become more obese.
Do children have the choice to acquire a rare disease?
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Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:21:23 PM
You can get the same effect by extracting a chemical from it and turning it into a drug which would keep you from getting the bad carcinogens.
If in doubt, my view with marajuana is that the chemicals aren't necessarily bad, but smoking it is just as bad or worse than cigaretts.
Marinol: (synthetic Thc ) has been a failure
Turning something hnatural into a lil magic pill ain't right by nature
How many times did Edison fail at making a lightbulb? Eventually it worked, and worked good.
Now you're just trolling. I hope you actually discover truth rather live in the mr Mackey bubble.
So if making a drug fails the first time, it will never ever work for all eternity? Sure...
You said you like corn but hate gmos. If you want to be understood, please state your opinion clearer in the first place. Why do you like corn but not like it because it's gmo? (Please answer in morning)
This will be my last response i intend on doing as of now so illget it out of the way: i said i DONT SUPPORT genetic modification. Its horribly unnatural and i just dont like the idea of so much of my food being a creation of humans, stuff that was never meant to exist. I dont support humanity playing god. Its also why ive pretty much 100% stopped all synthetic drugs, i refrain from taking medicines unless absolutely necessary, 95% of liquid i consume is water... I dont like it because its wrong. But thats not what i said before and nt somethig i should hve to argue or defend. I dont support it. I think its wrong. I think humans creating .poo. is wrong. In some cases its very good like penicillin, but i think for the most part its just wrong, particularly changig the very foods we consume and producing 'food-like substance' and passing it off as real food. so yea, basically that. I really hope you didnt post again asking me to explain somethig else lol im done with this at the rate its going
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Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:55:41 PM
In those few cases, drugs aren't the best option. The best option would be to have made better lifestyle choices, but it's better than nothing. Being obese and getting type 2 diabetes makes you need medication to live long enough to become more obese.
Do children have the choice to acquire a rare disease?
Sorry i think you read something wrong. This post doesnt quite make sense. And the answer is: no, at least as far as i can tell. If the answer were yes then.. Damn
Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:57:51 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on April 24, 2014, 11:55:28 PM
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Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:21:23 PM
You can get the same effect by extracting a chemical from it and turning it into a drug which would keep you from getting the bad carcinogens.
If in doubt, my view with marajuana is that the chemicals aren't necessarily bad, but smoking it is just as bad or worse than cigaretts.
Marinol: (synthetic Thc ) has been a failure
Turning something hnatural into a lil magic pill ain't right by nature
How many times did Edison fail at making a lightbulb? Eventually it worked, and worked good.
Now you're just trolling. I hope you actually discover truth rather live in the mr Mackey bubble.
So if making a drug fails the first time, it will never ever work for all eternity? Sure...
But it works already not being in pill form... You don't even have to smoke it
So why make a pill that is filled with unknown filler? Why take it?
Processed items lose potency fast.
Also taysby: Edison is not the investor of the light bulb; he was one of many men who constantly improved an item already invented. Edison was primarily able to get a bulb last for several hours, but this was after using other people's research and schematics. So he is not the sole inventor of the light bulb. Another lie 😬
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Quote from: Taysby on April 24, 2014, 11:21:23 PM
You can get the same effect by extracting a chemical from it and turning it into a drug which would keep you from getting the bad carcinogens.
If in doubt, my view with marajuana is that the chemicals aren't necessarily bad, but smoking it is just as bad or worse than cigaretts.
Marinol: (synthetic Thc ) has been a failure
Turning something hnatural into a lil magic pill ain't right by nature
How many times did Edison fail at making a lightbulb? Eventually it worked, and worked good.
Now you're just trolling. I hope you actually discover truth rather live in the mr Mackey bubble.
So if making a drug fails the first time, it will never ever work for all eternity? Sure...
But it works already not being in pill form... You don't even have to smoke it
So why make a pill that is filled with unknown filler? Why take it?
Processed items lose potency fast.
Also taysby: Edison is not the investor of the light bulb; he was one of many men who constantly improved an item already invented. Edison was primarily able to get a bulb last for several hours, but this was after using other people's research and schematics. So he is not the sole inventor of the light bulb. Another lie 😬
Thomas Edison actually never touched the lightbulb except to demonstrate how it worked to investors and when he patented it under his name
Guys can we all just ignore taysby and talk about how great weed is? Personally I was raised up in the mountains of Cali and have always had in as an influence in my life and I'm incredibly happy with it :)
Haha i dont care what happens im out of the argumet as of right now(unless taysby manages to pull me back in)
Go weed yay
Im satisfied when im not busy. When college gets really crazy im less than satisfied xD but thas when i take a tolerance break so alls well that ends well
Just sitting here geting high, making money helping sick people, and curing a issue I have. Then I walk in here like woah lol someone was raised hard on reefer madness lol .
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Just sitting here geting high, making money helping sick people, and curing a issue I have. Then I walk in here like woah lol someone was raised hard on reefer madness lol .
Yeah it's been tense
I think we smokers can agree to come to the defense of Mary Jane with fury when she is cast aside due to ignorance of her true beauty and power!
Gandalf would not let these actions pass.
Quote from: Muggywuggy on April 25, 2014, 03:01:38 AM
I think we smokers can agree to come to the defense of Mary Jane with fury when she is cast aside due to ignorance of her true beauty and power!
Gandalf would not let these actions pass.
God I love the people here
Gandalf would not let you pass without smoking a fatass j
Wow from pg 8 to 14 now I have some catching up to do.
I truthfully dont like the modern world in a lot of ways since you asked
But i was primarily referring to humans cretatings organisms, genetically designing our food, cloning.. All that. Its disgusting to me. Technology is just something id rather not have to deal with.
Id rather be a caveman to be honest, at least they were real instead of fake ass people and communicating wasnt through texts and yadayada. But thats mostly irrelevant
Tesla wins.
ERB.
Ok
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Quote from: MisterJH on April 25, 2014, 10:24:20 AM
I truthfully dont like the modern world in a lot of ways since you asked
But i was primarily referring to humans cretatings organisms, genetically designing our food, cloning.. All that. Its disgusting to me. Technology is just something id rather not have to deal with.
Id rather be a caveman to be honest, at least they were real instead of fake ass people and communicating wasnt through texts and yadayada. But thats mostly irrelevant
I prefer this day stuff, but there's not much I can argue about it, other than the fact that our lifespan is longer. If you still don't care then I give up. And reccomend you join an amish community.
I think you're failing to grasp the concept that we as a human race have built a fake materialist lifestyle where people think they need all this artificial crap to survive. If you have migraines figure out why you have them and try to fix it rather than just take harmful drugs to suppress it. It's not healthy. Honestly most things we ingest and "rely" on are incredibly unhealthy. So honestly being Amish really couldn't be too bad. They live organic, productive lifestyles.
Quote from: Garblefarb on April 25, 2014, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 25, 2014, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 25, 2014, 10:24:20 AM
I truthfully dont like the modern world in a lot of ways since you asked
But i was primarily referring to humans cretatings organisms, genetically designing our food, cloning.. All that. Its disgusting to me. Technology is just something id rather not have to deal with.
Id rather be a caveman to be honest, at least they were real instead of fake ass people and communicating wasnt through texts and yadayada. But thats mostly irrelevant
I prefer this day stuff, but there's not much I can argue about it, other than the fact that our lifespan is longer. If you still don't care then I give up. And reccomend you join an amish community.
I think you're failing to grasp the concept that we as a human race have built a fake materialist lifestyle where people think they need all this artificial crap to survive. If you have migraines figure out why you have them and try to fix it rather than just take harmful drugs to suppress it. It's not healthy. Honestly most things we ingest and "rely" on are incredibly unhealthy. So honestly being Amish really couldn't be too bad. They live organic, productive lifestyles.
But... Magic?... And internet?
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Quote from: Taysby on April 25, 2014, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 25, 2014, 10:24:20 AM
I truthfully dont like the modern world in a lot of ways since you asked
But i was primarily referring to humans cretatings organisms, genetically designing our food, cloning.. All that. Its disgusting to me. Technology is just something id rather not have to deal with.
Id rather be a caveman to be honest, at least they were real instead of fake ass people and communicating wasnt through texts and yadayada. But thats mostly irrelevant
I prefer this day stuff, but there's not much I can argue about it, other than the fact that our lifespan is longer. If you still don't care then I give up. And reccomend you join an amish community.
I think you're failing to grasp the concept that we as a human race have built a fake materialist lifestyle where people think they need all this artificial crap to survive. If you have migraines figure out why you have them and try to fix it rather than just take harmful drugs to suppress it. It's not healthy. Honestly most things we ingest and "rely" on are incredibly unhealthy. So honestly being Amish really couldn't be too bad. They live organic, productive lifestyles.
But... Magic?... And internet?
Hahaha this is a totally different topic, but I admire those who could actually function without electronics. I don't know what I'd do without the internet and my computer. Hell, it floors me that I didn't even have a smartphone a year ago. I don't think I could ever go back to a shitty phone again.
I agree with Taysby. Technology is not a new concept. Social media isn't either. It's definitely progressed, however. It had become always accessible. But the newspaper and writing letters kept individuals just as "antisocial" as a phone does nowadays (if not more. The accessibility provides super quick communication), and the need/want for materials transcends age. This may sound comical, but don't you think all teenage girls throughout all ages wanted some trendy item? Like a fashionable rock or something? It's not a matter of the progression of technology, it's a matter of human nature. The desire to be liked and to conform (among other things) drives us all into the latest technology and trends.
The world has ALWAYS been materialist, is materialist, and will ALWAYS be materialist. It takes drive as an individual to separate yourself from that.
If you want to sell something: market it to teenage girls
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If you want to sell something: market it to teenage girls
I heard fashionable rocks are in this year
Quote from: Taysby on April 25, 2014, 02:40:29 PM
this "fake materialistic society" isn't as fake as you think. Is talking face to face fake? facebook, phones, snapchat all let you do that across distances. Are books fake? It took "fake" objects to create them. is information fake? the internet lets you get that information. Technology is a tool to help you do things you normally would.
If youre against technology, would that expand to the wheel, fire, etc? that is all technology.
My impression of you (tell me if it's wrong) is that you are a calm piece loving person that wants to relax under the trees after a hard day of farming.
And my impression of you is youre a pompous ass.
and no, youre wrong, im likely going to be a physical therapist or nutritionist
Quote from: FustyDavorite on April 25, 2014, 03:02:31 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on April 25, 2014, 03:01:15 PM
If you want to sell something: market it to teenage girls
I heard fashionable rocks are in this year
Crystal necklaces are getting big with the ladies now
Personal insults? Really? Let's stop this debate before it ends up with you two being sent to your rooms until dinner.
I request that, at the least, the debate is cooled off until both parties are past petty insults.
This isn't a .loving. debate.
It's not? Between mister and Taysby?
It's turned from a civil debate to childish name calling and baseless assumptions about the other person. Taysby, we get that you don't like weed, but stop shitting on peoples day. MisterJH, stop letting the opinions of a kid irritate you so much. This is the wrong thread for a discussion that has turned from weed, to shroom, to LSD then into GMO foods. Chill the .love. out.
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Quote from: Spencer Addington on April 25, 2014, 04:43:09 PM
It's turned from a civil debate to childish name calling and baseless assumptions about the other person. Taysby, we get that you don't like weed, but stop shitting on peoples day. MisterJH, stop letting the opinions of a kid irritate you so much. This is the wrong thread for a discussion that has turned from weed, to shroom, to LSD then into GMO foods. Chill the .love. out.
So people don't like me telling them that something is bad for them? This must be how most religions feel.
Shooooot... I was going to find those links today. Facepalm.
People want to hear from you how bad drugs are for them like you enjoy hearing how bad guns are and should be regulated.
Quote from: Taysby on April 25, 2014, 04:56:09 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on April 25, 2014, 04:43:09 PM
It's turned from a civil debate to childish name calling and baseless assumptions about the other person. Taysby, we get that you don't like weed, but stop shitting on peoples day. MisterJH, stop letting the opinions of a kid irritate you so much. This is the wrong thread for a discussion that has turned from weed, to shroom, to LSD then into GMO foods. Chill the .love. out.
So people don't like me telling them that something is bad for them? This must be how most religions feel.
Shooooot... I was going to find those links today. Facepalm.
You gonna drink alcohol? Do you eat fast food? Sugary drinks? Extended time in the sun? Too much time outside the sun? All of these things are bad in excess. Smoking weed, vaping and eating edibles are all things that are fine in moderation, just like everything else in the world.
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Quote from: Spencer Addington on April 25, 2014, 05:00:38 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 25, 2014, 04:56:09 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on April 25, 2014, 04:43:09 PM
It's turned from a civil debate to childish name calling and baseless assumptions about the other person. Taysby, we get that you don't like weed, but stop shitting on peoples day. MisterJH, stop letting the opinions of a kid irritate you so much. This is the wrong thread for a discussion that has turned from weed, to shroom, to LSD then into GMO foods. Chill the .love. out.
So people don't like me telling them that something is bad for them? This must be how most religions feel.
Shooooot... I was going to find those links today. Facepalm.
You gonna drink alcohol? Do you eat fast food? Sugary drinks? Extended time in the sun? Too much time outside the sun? All of these things are bad in excess. Smoking weed, vaping and eating edibles are all things that are fine in moderation, just like everything else in the world.
No, rarely, rarely, no (redhead). ;)
Now were back to the argument that some leads to more... Were just going in circles wasting my time. :P
Live and let live man. We don't need anyone telling us what good, bad and in between. If it doesn't hurt other people, why does it matter to you.
Besides, gingers don't have souls.
And close argument lol
Water will be more important than gold.
Which why why all the big names are investing in water, true story
World bank wants to PRIVATIZE water.
F'd up.
Its alllll about $
Its despicable is what it is. Its immoral and kind of makes me sick
Soooo... Anarchy?
Quote from: Taysby on April 26, 2014, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 25, 2014, 08:23:53 PM
Its alllll about $
Its despicable is what it is. Its immoral and kind of makes me sick
Improving people's quality of life is immoral and makes you sick?
No the fact it's all about money that's what makes him sick
Yes money is good, but taking advantage of the less fortunate because you can isn't.
Taysby gonna ask you to stop trolling this thread and derailing it.
You're welcome to support your anti drug statement if you have something to support it other than "drugs are bad".
Talking about the importance of money business nonsense? Which stemmed from the mention of privatizing water. Which is a natural resource.
If you think it's logical to privatize water, you're thinking like a soulless, selfish and ignorant person. You want to sell your Scientology pyramid gold bar scheme: go ahead and make your own thread.
Please stop trolling this thread. I deleted your post about using gold to buy water, I hope you would have taken that as a sign that you may not want to keep trolling.
This thread is about weed dammit!
Resolved!!! 🔨🔨🔨
That is where I though this thread was.
Quote from: Taysby on April 26, 2014, 07:07:11 PM
I didn't say I wanted to privatize water. And does it matter if the topic goes to something else?
This thread has stretched on 17 pages mainly about cannabis, health factors and morals. The last few pages have been arbitrary points that keep spinning the subject, now we're talking about money and how it's better than bartering?!?
When you suggested to use the gold we "stock pile" to buy water (the post I deleted) - this is where I came under the assumption you're for privatized water. Then you go on to state about the importance of money in modern society and how it helps save lives??.
You're derailing this thread. So instead of responding with a spinner, stick to subject or do not contribute to discussion.
Quote from: Taysby on April 27, 2014, 12:47:39 AM
Last comment then I'm done. You have to buy your water from the government. (It's actually a private company, but whatever) though your water bill.
I run off a well. I don't buy water :P
Quote from: Spencer Addington on April 27, 2014, 01:29:37 AM
Quote from: Taysby on April 27, 2014, 12:47:39 AM
Last comment then I'm done. You have to buy your water from the government. (It's actually a private company, but whatever) though your water bill.
I run off a well. I don't buy water :P
same.
This thread is a celebration thread, not a debate thread. You don't have arguments about the existence of god in a "Merry Christmas" thread, do ya? ;) There is now a debate thread!
Christmas is about presents anyways!