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Title: Countermil help!!
Post by: Shooshoo on April 01, 2012, 05:54:51 AM
My friend has a deck that focuses on milling to make huge splinterfrights with some wreath of geists..but if that doesnt work for him he just uses jaces archivist to win with lab maniac. And to top it all off he has vengeful pharaohs in the GY and he uses gnaw to the bone to heal for like 50!!! What should i do? Oblivion curse and nihil spellbombs???

Sorry for no brackets damn you iphone!!!
Title: Re: Countermil help!!
Post by: Spikepit on April 01, 2012, 06:44:46 AM
{Splinterfright}
{Wreath of Giests}
{Jace's Archivist}
{Laboratory Maniac}
{Vengeful Pharoah}
{Gnaw to the Bone}
{Oblivion Curse}
{Nihil Spellbomb}

Are you planning to stay with Standard?
Title: Re: Countermil help!!
Post by: Nobbert on April 01, 2012, 10:41:34 AM
{liliana Vess}
Get all his graveyard creatures
{Karn, liberated}
Reset the game, keep his cards
{surgical extraction}
Exile those pesky {lab maniac}s after he inevitably discards one
Title: Re: Countermil help!!
Post by: BlackJester on April 01, 2012, 10:58:16 AM
Yeah, just run {Nihil Spellbomb} and other regular removal like {Go for the Throat}.
Title: Re: Countermil help!!
Post by: cltrn81 on April 01, 2012, 11:00:03 AM
{leyline of the void} if not playing standard
Title: Re: Countermil help!!
Post by: Coffee Vampire on April 01, 2012, 11:46:31 AM
There are two things I thought of:

1) Use cards that exile cards from graveyards. I think there might even be land that does that...not sure. Just search (on text mode) "exile from graveyard" in the database.

2) Use an UB mill deck with {Leyline of the Void}. Since he will already be milling himself, it won't take long to kill him with all the great mill cards out there! But be sure to toss in 4 {Dismember} or something like that. Save them for the {Laboratory Maniac}!

Edit: some good mill cards:

{Hedron Crab} ...my fav.
{Mind Funeral}
{Jace's Erasure} can be used with cards like {Forsee} for more mill!
{Jace, Memory Adept}
{Traumatize} can be used with {Keening Stone} to mill them out right away...but it is very expensive.

But yeah just search the database and you will find many treasures.
Title: Re: Countermil help!!
Post by: Shooshoo on April 01, 2012, 04:50:31 PM
Well my deck could be casual..he made his mil deck standard to play with others but im flexible:)

You guys are awesome i will definitely be making an anti mill skeleton of a deck.. No more stupid win conditions mwahahaha
Title: Re: Countermil help!!
Post by: Wally on April 01, 2012, 05:37:52 PM
Some of those big eldrazi guys help when he mills you, even if you never cast it, but just use it as mill insurance.
Title: Re: Countermil help!!
Post by: BadLuckIrish on April 02, 2012, 09:41:41 AM
So today i was in a THG and got doubled milled. (5 {Jace's Erasure, 3 {Hedron Crab} and like 6 {Tome Scour} all focused on me). I would rather fight ELDRAZI than that and you all know i hate those. Whats an easy way to counter milling in general? Idc about the format.
Title: Re: Countermil help!!
Post by: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 10:43:35 AM
Dredge, Elzdrazi, or {Gaea's Blessing}.
Title: Re: Countermil help!!
Post by: BadLuckIrish on April 02, 2012, 10:50:58 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 10:43:35 AM
Dredge, Elzdrazi, or {Gaea's Blessing}.
Blessing..done thank you. Revenge is sweet
Title: Re: Countermil help!!
Post by: cltrn81 on April 02, 2012, 10:57:16 AM
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on April 02, 2012, 09:41:41 AM
So today i was in a THG and got doubled milled. (5 {Jace's Erasure, 3 {Hedron Crab} and like 6 {Tome Scour} all focused on me). I would rather fight ELDRAZI than that and you all know i hate those. Whats an easy way to counter milling in general? Idc about the format.

I thought both decks in a THG team were limited to 4 copies of one card between both decks.......meaning that both decks combined can only have 4 copies of a given card.
Title: Re: Countermil help!!
Post by: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 10:58:42 AM
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on April 02, 2012, 10:50:58 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 10:43:35 AM
Dredge, Elzdrazi, or {Gaea's Blessing}.
Blessing..done thank you. Revenge is sweet
Heck, play reanimator. Let their millim work FOR you!  One {Living Death} and they'll {think twice} about mill. 8)
Title: Re: Countermil help!!
Post by: Guypocolypse on April 02, 2012, 10:59:43 AM
Haaa
Title: Re: Countermil help!!
Post by: Quackmaster5 on April 02, 2012, 11:14:36 AM
For the guy whose milling his own deck, use {relic of progenitus}. Exile all graveyards. Yours and his. That way he can't get benefits of it.
Title: Re: Countermil help!!
Post by: BadLuckIrish on April 02, 2012, 11:40:11 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 10:58:42 AM
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on April 02, 2012, 10:50:58 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 10:43:35 AM
Dredge, Elzdrazi, or {Gaea's Blessing}.
Blessing..done thank you. Revenge is sweet
Heck, play reanimator. Let their millim work FOR you!  One {Living Death} and they'll {think twice} about mill. 8)
They helped me they A {headless skaab}. Not a number. A letter of the english alphabet
Title: Re: Countermil help!!
Post by: BadLuckIrish on April 02, 2012, 11:58:58 AM
And btw i have a playset of {Headless Skaab}s and {Relentless Skaab}s and only got A!!! Headleaa skaab