Smallpox/8Rack 60 cards, 15 sideboard 2 {Fetid Heath} 3 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth} 3 {Ghost Quarter} 2 {Buried Ruin} 1 {Dakmor Salvage} 12 {Swamp} 23 lands 2 {Bitterblossom} 2 {Waste Not} 4 {The Rack} 4 {Shrieking Affliction} 4 {Inquisition of Kozilek} 4 {Thoughtseize} 3 {Raven's Crime} 4 {Wrench Mind} 2 {Smallpox} 4 {Ensnaring Bridge} 4 {Liliana of the Veil} 37 other spells Sideboard 2 {Nihil Spellbomb} 2 {Dismember} 2 {Surgical Extraction} 4 {Leyline of Sanctity} 2 {Pithing Needle} 3 {Blackmail} 15 sideboard cards |
Quote from: Talock on March 14, 2014, 02:11:39 AM
It really counts on where your playing in the top tourneys I don't think it would place well but that IMO as for local games it's really up to the meta at my local a deck almost the same as this keeps placing top 4 so maybe it could be big with the right player behide it beat to play it see how it goes for you.
A big weakness of this deck is {Leyline of Sanctity} and the deck at my local sides to play around it maybe something to look at too.
Quote from: Taysby on March 14, 2014, 01:51:16 PM
Have you played vs affinity? It seems like it'd fold to affinity.
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on March 26, 2014, 05:18:29 PM
I took one look at your deck and thought of a minds laver lock deck. It's the worlds most annoying thing when your opponent is consistently taking your turn for you
Quote from: Talock on March 26, 2014, 05:43:25 PM
The only deck I think would give this deck real gref is a zoo deck but that isn't all that common cos the mana base is so costly.
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on March 29, 2014, 07:13:02 PM
I play a very similar deck and played it in an event yesterday. There was only two undefeated players going into the final round. Myself and a zoo player. Game one I was mana screwed and had no hope. Game two I had the advantage and would have won had he not top decked a burn spell at the worst possible time. Zoo is beatable but sometimes it's just too fast for you. In my opinion ensnaring bridge is the best card in the deck, but it still pretty much folds to leyline of sanctity. Living end is unwinnable if you can't get your ensnaring bridge out.
I have three copies of leyline of the void in my sideboard to combat living end and other such decks that rely heavily on their graveyard.
Quote from: Dmreiss on March 29, 2014, 09:09:06 PMIts slower than the 8 rack effects, and does less damage basically
Looking at 8Rack lists, why doesn't anyone play {Megrim}? For all the discarding, why not so a little damage as well?
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on March 29, 2014, 10:07:18 PMThank you for reinforcing, Reinforcer
Also it's 3cmc. That's a bit high in this style of deck, especially when you are running {dark confidant}s. there are already too many 3cmc spells its not worth adding another for an effect that is basically redundant.
Quote from: MisterJH on March 26, 2014, 05:24:22 PM
Gah i remember when i first started playing when i was real young and my bro had a rack deck -.- how i hated that card, i thought it was the best card in the world at the time
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 25, 2014, 09:03:51 PMo ring and sphere can be a pain but I usually discard them before ther are. Leyline of sanctity is horrible, but even if it's down the board is usually in a stalemate. So I can wait if out and blow them up with {rachet bomb}
Do enchantments give you much trouble? I'm thinking about a white splash in my deck because it struggles against enchantment heavy decks. Mainly control decks that run a lot of {oblivion ring} and {detention sphere} type effects. Plus anything that runs {leyline of sanctity}, even though that is the minority.
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 28, 2014, 08:10:10 PMI have all the cards for the white splash apart from 3 {marsh flat}. So once got my claws on them I'll be playing it.
Yeah I was considering ratchet bomb but I think I would prefer to go with the white splash for {revoke existence} so I can deal with troublesome artifacts as well. That way I can swap some of my creature removal for {path to exile}s. it's only going to be a very small white splash so I don't think it will put too much strain on my mana base.
Quote from: Teysa karlov on July 30, 2014, 07:59:14 PMQuote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 28, 2014, 08:10:10 PMI have all the cards for the white splash apart from 3 {marsh flat}. So once got my claws on them I'll be playing it.
Yeah I was considering ratchet bomb but I think I would prefer to go with the white splash for {revoke existence} so I can deal with troublesome artifacts as well. That way I can swap some of my creature removal for {path to exile}s. it's only going to be a very small white splash so I don't think it will put too much strain on my mana base.
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 30, 2014, 11:21:25 PMit's doing well really keeps deck rolling! XxxxxQuote from: Teysa karlov on July 30, 2014, 07:59:14 PMQuote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 28, 2014, 08:10:10 PMI have all the cards for the white splash apart from 3 {marsh flat}. So once got my claws on them I'll be playing it.
Yeah I was considering ratchet bomb but I think I would prefer to go with the white splash for {revoke existence} so I can deal with troublesome artifacts as well. That way I can swap some of my creature removal for {path to exile}s. it's only going to be a very small white splash so I don't think it will put too much strain on my mana base.
{Revoke Existence} sucks in Modern. I'd go for {Disenchant} (doesn't exile but instant speed!)
Btw how is {Waste Not} treating you?
Quote from: Teysa karlov on July 31, 2014, 10:20:48 AMQuote from: Mattao19 on July 30, 2014, 11:21:25 PMit's doing well really keeps deck rolling! XxxxxQuote from: Teysa karlov on July 30, 2014, 07:59:14 PMQuote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 28, 2014, 08:10:10 PMI have all the cards for the white splash apart from 3 {marsh flat}. So once got my claws on them I'll be playing it.
Yeah I was considering ratchet bomb but I think I would prefer to go with the white splash for {revoke existence} so I can deal with troublesome artifacts as well. That way I can swap some of my creature removal for {path to exile}s. it's only going to be a very small white splash so I don't think it will put too much strain on my mana base.
{Revoke Existence} sucks in Modern. I'd go for {Disenchant} (doesn't exile but instant speed!)
Btw how is {Waste Not} treating you?
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on August 08, 2014, 10:38:21 PMeBay. I got my play set for a total of $280 in feb/march time when a playset was worth $ 400
I love your deck sooo much, if only I could afford the Lilliana's:(
Quote from: Teysa karlov on November 26, 2014, 07:11:20 PMWhy no Lily?
Updated lust doing quite well
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 26, 2014, 10:13:11 PMThere are 4 {liliana of the veil} always have beenQuote from: Teysa karlov on November 26, 2014, 07:11:20 PMWhy no Lily?
Updated list doing quite well
Quote from: Taysby on November 27, 2014, 12:34:31 AMQuote from: Teysa karlov on November 26, 2014, 07:11:20 PM
Updated lust doing quite well
I didn't know you had a fetish for cards. ;)
Quote from: Teysa karlov on November 27, 2014, 06:45:32 AMMy bad, I didn't notice her hiding under the Inquisitions.Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 26, 2014, 10:13:11 PMThere are 4 {liliana of the veil} always have beenQuote from: Teysa karlov on November 26, 2014, 07:11:20 PMWhy no Lily?
Updated list doing quite well
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 25, 2015, 06:41:28 PMTorpor orb seems meh without pod
Updated list what do people think
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on January 25, 2015, 07:27:24 PMQuote from: Teysa karlov on January 25, 2015, 06:41:28 PMTorpor orb seems meh without pod
Updated list what do people think
Quote from: Natxoblogg on January 30, 2015, 12:00:53 AMIt doesn't do enough. It takes up a turn for a bulky enchantment that has too little impact on the game itself. {Waste Not} is much better and for the same cost you get something no matter what they discard
I think that {Liliana's Caress} Is a good option
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on January 30, 2015, 02:43:36 AM
My 8 rack sideboard is as follows:
Torpor orb x 2 - for reasons already stated
Disenchant x 3 - the deck cannot deal with artifacts or enchantments very well and bogles is a thing. So is the mirror.
Leyline of the void x 2 - every deck needs graveyard hate
Extirpate x 2 - for the control matchups. Does work against storm also.
Dismember x 2 - not a lot of main board removal. Comes in handy against creature heavy decks with creatures that have annoying abilities eg noble Heirach
Path to exile x 1 - see above
Damnation x 1 - when spot removal isn't enough. Gets around hexproof
Leyline of sanctity x 2 - burn and mill are a thing in my meta. Also useful in the mirror.
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on January 30, 2015, 06:48:50 PM
I was originally mono black but i just couldnt cope with any deck that relied on non creature permanents. Thats why i splashed white and havent looked back.
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 30, 2015, 07:47:59 PMQuote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on January 30, 2015, 06:48:50 PM
I was originally mono black but i just couldnt cope with any deck that relied on non creature permanents. Thats why i splashed white and havent looked back.
I have a W/B rack list in the works. I put your suggestions in that one.
Quote from: Roberto982 on February 04, 2015, 02:19:03 AM
Also, i find Liliana's Caress is just another wincon with the 8 racks. Combo Liliana's caress and waste not with Burning inquiry for insane value, and a load of damage
Quote from: Teysa karlov on February 04, 2015, 07:37:42 AMQuote from: Roberto982 on February 04, 2015, 02:19:03 AM
Also, i find Liliana's Caress is just another wincon with the 8 racks. Combo Liliana's caress and waste not with Burning inquiry for insane value, and a load of damage
The problem I have with {Liliana's Caress} is that the mana I use it for will be used almost every time to get rid of threats from someone's hand and there is no room. The list is so tight at the moment. Id rather run {Quest for the nihil stone} if I had the room.
Quote from: Mattao19 on February 04, 2015, 03:50:32 PM
I know it's less awkward bc you don't care about your lands too much but how have you found 3 Urborgs? Does it get awkward?
Quote from: General Kiwi on April 23, 2015, 08:23:03 AM
This deck is very similar to mine. I love the deck it is amazing against controll but how are you handeling bw tokens and naya burn? Those match ups are 50/50 for me and I'm not seeing a lot in the board that gives you that needed push. Overall good build
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 11, 2016, 06:38:05 PMIt has been known to bite me in the butt sometimes!
How has 2 smallpox been with 22 lands?
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 17, 2016, 03:11:41 AMDid you ever really need a sideboard for twin or bloom? Those were both solid games for 8rack, especially when running smallpox.
Hmmm now how to side board, with twin and bloom gone?????
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 17, 2016, 10:44:00 AMGuessing the 2 {erase} were there for either.Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 17, 2016, 03:11:41 AMDid you ever really need a sideboard for twin or bloom? Those were both solid games for 8rack, especially when running smallpox.
Hmmm now how to side board, with twin and bloom gone?????
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 17, 2016, 10:44:00 AMQuote from: Teysa karlov on January 17, 2016, 03:11:41 AMDid you ever really need a sideboard for twin or bloom? Those were both solid games for 8rack, especially when running smallpox.
Hmmm now how to side board, with twin and bloom gone?????
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 23, 2016, 07:46:09 PM
Wouldn't 8rackdos be better against both torn and aggressive decks? More land hate in red(crumble to dust) and bolts/Kolaghan's command for aggro.
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 21, 2016, 12:07:40 PM
All of the puns lol :D
Is that list up to date or have you changed it at all?
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 22, 2016, 06:06:47 PM
Is mutavaults not good anymore?
Quote from: Spencer Addington on March 25, 2016, 07:47:47 PM
How have the bitter blossoms been? I found them lack luster. A card that does nothing the turn it comes down, then gets you a 1/1 flier that has summoning sickness seemed kinda bad to me. I get they can attack under brigde, but they never seemed worth it to me.
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on March 25, 2016, 09:10:46 PMQuote from: Spencer Addington on March 25, 2016, 07:47:47 PM
How have the bitter blossoms been? I found them lack luster. A card that does nothing the turn it comes down, then gets you a 1/1 flier that has summoning sickness seemed kinda bad to me. I get they can attack under brigde, but they never seemed worth it to me.
I have also never been a fan. They don't help your gameplan at all, I would much rather play more discard.