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Title: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on March 02, 2014, 02:47:59 PM

Smallpox/8Rack

60 cards, 15 sideboard


2 {Fetid Heath}
3 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth}
3 {Ghost Quarter}
2 {Buried Ruin}
1 {Dakmor Salvage}
12 {Swamp}

23 lands


2 {Bitterblossom}
2 {Waste Not}
4 {The Rack}
4 {Shrieking Affliction}
4 {Inquisition of Kozilek}
4 {Thoughtseize}
3 {Raven's Crime}
4 {Wrench Mind}
2 {Smallpox}
4 {Ensnaring Bridge}
4 {Liliana of the Veil}

37 other spells


Sideboard

2 {Nihil Spellbomb}
2 {Dismember}
2 {Surgical Extraction}
4 {Leyline of Sanctity}
2 {Pithing Needle}
3 {Blackmail}

15 sideboard cards


Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on March 11, 2014, 09:07:10 PM
Will replace bobs with waste not. Then that will be my deck for modern in June onwards. Any ideas on sideboard options/ ideas agents the teir 1 decks atm?
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Talock on March 13, 2014, 11:49:52 AM
I would keep bob the draw plus that little bit of bet down is good and would add {Mutavault} over {Blinkmoth Nexus} just my ยข2
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on March 13, 2014, 02:56:39 PM
I'll do some testing with mutavault friday. Got a modern FNM
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on March 13, 2014, 06:24:42 PM
How do you think this will do in current meta?
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Talock on March 14, 2014, 02:11:39 AM
It really counts on where your playing in the top tourneys I don't think it would place well but that IMO as for local games it's really up to the meta at my local a deck almost the same as this keeps placing top 4 so maybe it could be big with the right player behide it beat to play it see how it goes for you.

A big weakness of this deck is {Leyline of Sanctity} and the deck at my local sides to play around it maybe something to look at too.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on March 14, 2014, 12:22:21 PM
Quote from: Talock on March 14, 2014, 02:11:39 AM
It really counts on where your playing in the top tourneys I don't think it would place well but that IMO as for local games it's really up to the meta at my local a deck almost the same as this keeps placing top 4 so maybe it could be big with the right player behide it beat to play it see how it goes for you.

A big weakness of this deck is {Leyline of Sanctity} and the deck at my local sides to play around it maybe something to look at too.

My groups meta is lots of twin, jund, pod. Some rock, storm, scapshift and boogle. 
And me with 8 rack
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on March 14, 2014, 02:24:47 PM
Quote from: Taysby on March 14, 2014, 01:51:16 PM
Have you played vs affinity?  It seems like it'd fold to affinity.

I have not played against affinity/robots. But from the primers I've read. It's a 50/50 match up. As they empty their hand for me. And the  {Ensnaring Bridge} messes them up. But it's a fast
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on March 14, 2014, 08:13:32 PM
When 2-2-0 at modern FNM.
Won agenst B/W tokens and storm

Lost against U/B fairies and reanimator
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on March 26, 2014, 05:10:05 PM
Getting a playset of {bitterblossom} in next couple of weeks. So added them to the list
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 26, 2014, 05:18:29 PM
I took one look at your deck and thought of a minds laver lock deck. It's the worlds most annoying thing when your opponent is consistently taking your turn for you
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: MisterJH on March 26, 2014, 05:24:22 PM
Gah i remember when i first started playing when i was real young and my bro had a rack deck -.- how i hated that card, i thought it was the best card in the world at the time
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on March 26, 2014, 05:26:08 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on March 26, 2014, 05:18:29 PM
I took one look at your deck and thought of a minds laver lock deck. It's the worlds most annoying thing when your opponent is consistently taking your turn for you

This deck messes peoples mind cos once they are top decking( every game pretty much) they can't cast their spells half the time cos they are useless. And if they hold them back it gets discarded. Making most of their deck null and void lol. So I pretty much do control their turns for them. They take damage in upkeep, then they draw and pass. And then I empty their hand in my turn. Then it's theirs again.

Even though I'm the only 8rack player atm I'm my area. People are starting to meta agenst me abit.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Talock on March 26, 2014, 05:43:25 PM
The only deck I think would give this deck real gref is a zoo deck but that isn't all that common cos the mana base is so costly.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on March 26, 2014, 05:47:52 PM
Quote from: Talock on March 26, 2014, 05:43:25 PM
The only deck I think would give this deck real gref is a zoo deck but that isn't all that common cos the mana base is so costly.

Zoo is not bad if I get {ensnaring bridge} out and post board I board in removal
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on March 29, 2014, 07:13:02 PM
I play a very similar deck and played it in an event yesterday. There was only two undefeated players going into the final round. Myself and a zoo player. Game one I was mana screwed and had no hope. Game two I had the advantage and would have won had he not top decked a burn spell at the worst possible time. Zoo is beatable but sometimes it's just too fast for you. In my opinion ensnaring bridge is the best card in the deck, but it still pretty much folds to leyline of sanctity. Living end is unwinnable if you can't get your ensnaring bridge out.

I have three copies of leyline of the void in my sideboard to combat living end and other such decks that rely heavily on their graveyard.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on March 29, 2014, 08:44:33 PM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on March 29, 2014, 07:13:02 PM
I play a very similar deck and played it in an event yesterday. There was only two undefeated players going into the final round. Myself and a zoo player. Game one I was mana screwed and had no hope. Game two I had the advantage and would have won had he not top decked a burn spell at the worst possible time. Zoo is beatable but sometimes it's just too fast for you. In my opinion ensnaring bridge is the best card in the deck, but it still pretty much folds to leyline of sanctity. Living end is unwinnable if you can't get your ensnaring bridge out.

I have three copies of leyline of the void in my sideboard to combat living end and other such decks that rely heavily on their graveyard.

I have some copies of Leyline, and I did have them in but I keep getting killed cos of bobbing them and never muligened into them. So I put in the relics. And the last living end player I faced had his living end surgically extracted which made me chuckle. And then game three he was about to living end me and I exiled his graveyard.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Dmreiss on March 29, 2014, 09:09:06 PM
Looking at 8Rack lists, why doesn't anyone play  {Megrim}?  For all the discarding, why not so a little damage as well?
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: MisterJH on March 29, 2014, 09:11:56 PM
Quote from: Dmreiss on March 29, 2014, 09:09:06 PM
Looking at 8Rack lists, why doesn't anyone play  {Megrim}?  For all the discarding, why not so a little damage as well?
Its slower than the 8 rack effects, and does less damage basically

Its a strongly controlling deck, it shouldnt needthat extra 2 damage per discard, and needs that mana for other stuff. Modern just doesnt like megrim
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on March 29, 2014, 10:07:18 PM
Also it's 3cmc. That's a bit high in this style of deck, especially when you are running {dark confidant}s. there are already too many 3cmc spells its not worth adding another for an effect that is basically redundant.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: MisterJH on March 29, 2014, 10:22:24 PM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on March 29, 2014, 10:07:18 PM
Also it's 3cmc. That's a bit high in this style of deck, especially when you are running {dark confidant}s. there are already too many 3cmc spells its not worth adding another for an effect that is basically redundant.
Thank you for reinforcing, Reinforcer
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on March 29, 2014, 10:37:00 PM
I've been called a lot of things, but never reinforcer! This could be the start of something ...
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: MisterJH on March 29, 2014, 10:43:45 PM
Its like Enforcer, which is also a sweet name

Reinforcer doesnt sound half bad at all man, you should definitely make it somethin
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on April 09, 2014, 05:26:22 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 26, 2014, 05:24:22 PM
Gah i remember when i first started playing when i was real young and my bro had a rack deck -.- how i hated that card, i thought it was the best card in the world at the time

It
The
Best
Card
In
The
World
:P
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on April 11, 2014, 06:03:47 PM
I love the original artwork.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on April 12, 2014, 08:46:08 AM
Lastnight came third at the local FNM modern event with this deck.
Lost round 1 to my mate playing UR tempomancer 0-2

Won round 2 against affinity 2-1 won both games on 1 life.

Won round 3 against BWR midrange 2-0. Got {ensnaring bridge} racked his to dead.

Won round 4 against WBG tokens.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on July 25, 2014, 06:00:19 PM
List updated.
-4 {dark confident}
+1 {Raven's Crime}
+3 {waste not}
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 25, 2014, 09:03:51 PM
Do enchantments give you much trouble? I'm thinking about a white splash in my deck because it struggles against enchantment heavy decks. Mainly control decks that run a lot of {oblivion ring} and {detention sphere} type effects. Plus anything that runs {leyline of sanctity}, even though that is the minority.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on July 28, 2014, 07:38:27 PM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 25, 2014, 09:03:51 PM
Do enchantments give you much trouble? I'm thinking about a white splash in my deck because it struggles against enchantment heavy decks. Mainly control decks that run a lot of {oblivion ring} and {detention sphere} type effects. Plus anything that runs {leyline of sanctity}, even though that is the minority.
o ring and sphere can be a pain but I usually discard them before ther are. Leyline of sanctity is horrible, but even if it's down the board is usually in a stalemate. So I can wait if out and blow them up with {rachet bomb}
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 28, 2014, 08:10:10 PM
Yeah I was considering ratchet bomb but I think I would prefer to go with the white splash for {revoke existence} so I can deal with troublesome artifacts as well.  That way I can swap some of my creature removal for {path to exile}s. it's only going to be a very small white splash so I don't think it will put too much strain on my mana base.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on July 30, 2014, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 28, 2014, 08:10:10 PM
Yeah I was considering ratchet bomb but I think I would prefer to go with the white splash for {revoke existence} so I can deal with troublesome artifacts as well.  That way I can swap some of my creature removal for {path to exile}s. it's only going to be a very small white splash so I don't think it will put too much strain on my mana base.
I have all the cards for the white splash apart from 3 {marsh flat}. So once got my claws on them I'll be playing it.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mattao19 on July 30, 2014, 11:21:25 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on July 30, 2014, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 28, 2014, 08:10:10 PM
Yeah I was considering ratchet bomb but I think I would prefer to go with the white splash for {revoke existence} so I can deal with troublesome artifacts as well.  That way I can swap some of my creature removal for {path to exile}s. it's only going to be a very small white splash so I don't think it will put too much strain on my mana base.
I have all the cards for the white splash apart from 3 {marsh flat}. So once got my claws on them I'll be playing it.

{Revoke Existence} sucks in Modern. I'd go for {Disenchant} (doesn't exile but instant speed!)

Btw how is {Waste Not} treating you?
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on July 31, 2014, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 30, 2014, 11:21:25 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on July 30, 2014, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 28, 2014, 08:10:10 PM
Yeah I was considering ratchet bomb but I think I would prefer to go with the white splash for {revoke existence} so I can deal with troublesome artifacts as well.  That way I can swap some of my creature removal for {path to exile}s. it's only going to be a very small white splash so I don't think it will put too much strain on my mana base.
I have all the cards for the white splash apart from 3 {marsh flat}. So once got my claws on them I'll be playing it.

{Revoke Existence} sucks in Modern. I'd go for {Disenchant} (doesn't exile but instant speed!)

Btw how is {Waste Not} treating you?
it's doing well really keeps deck rolling! Xxxxx
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mattao19 on July 31, 2014, 12:44:21 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on July 31, 2014, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 30, 2014, 11:21:25 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on July 30, 2014, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 28, 2014, 08:10:10 PM
Yeah I was considering ratchet bomb but I think I would prefer to go with the white splash for {revoke existence} so I can deal with troublesome artifacts as well.  That way I can swap some of my creature removal for {path to exile}s. it's only going to be a very small white splash so I don't think it will put too much strain on my mana base.
I have all the cards for the white splash apart from 3 {marsh flat}. So once got my claws on them I'll be playing it.

{Revoke Existence} sucks in Modern. I'd go for {Disenchant} (doesn't exile but instant speed!)

Btw how is {Waste Not} treating you?
it's doing well really keeps deck rolling! Xxxxx

Good to hear!!!
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on August 08, 2014, 08:28:38 PM
Played a MB 8rack vs U/B 8rack match on Monday. My mono black deck one 2-1-0. It came down to who got there {waste not} out first. Then down to who had the most rack affects.
Before {waste not} it was a easy match up get a rack out first you won.
But with {waste not} it turns into a quick brain teasing head ache. As you each  have to discard the right spells to keep you hand full from WN draws, but Also not to give your opponent mana or cards. You have to work out which is the lesser of two evils to go for.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on August 08, 2014, 10:38:21 PM
I love your deck sooo much, if only I could afford the Lilliana's:(
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on August 13, 2014, 03:05:09 PM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on August 08, 2014, 10:38:21 PM
I love your deck sooo much, if only I could afford the Lilliana's:(
eBay. I got my play set for a total of $280 in feb/march time when a playset was worth $ 400
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on November 10, 2014, 06:52:20 PM
For a laugh I added  {Staff of the Death Magus}. And oh my god it went well, paying 1 life for {thoughtseize} or {surgical exstaction} made my day. Beat my mates aggro deck silly end one game with 30 life!!!
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on November 26, 2014, 07:11:20 PM
Updated lust doing quite well
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 26, 2014, 10:13:11 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on November 26, 2014, 07:11:20 PM
Updated lust doing quite well
Why no Lily?
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on November 27, 2014, 06:45:32 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 26, 2014, 10:13:11 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on November 26, 2014, 07:11:20 PM
Updated list doing quite well
Why no Lily?
There are 4 {liliana of the veil} always have been
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on November 27, 2014, 06:47:53 AM
Quote from: Taysby on November 27, 2014, 12:34:31 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on November 26, 2014, 07:11:20 PM
Updated lust doing quite well

I didn't know you had a fetish for cards.  ;)

It's lily, she just feels so good in my hand
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 27, 2014, 11:34:05 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on November 27, 2014, 06:45:32 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on November 26, 2014, 10:13:11 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on November 26, 2014, 07:11:20 PM
Updated list doing quite well
Why no Lily?
There are 4 {liliana of the veil} always have been
My bad, I didn't notice her hiding under the Inquisitions.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 25, 2015, 06:41:28 PM
Updated list what do people think
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: DimirOverlord1300 on January 25, 2015, 07:27:24 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 25, 2015, 06:41:28 PM
Updated list what do people think
Torpor orb seems meh without pod
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mattao19 on January 25, 2015, 08:58:27 PM
It's still is very good bc Junk Rhino will still be a deck and remember there's always Twin!!! Even though 8Rack loves the twin matchup! :P
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 29, 2015, 03:56:10 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on January 25, 2015, 07:27:24 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 25, 2015, 06:41:28 PM
Updated list what do people think
Torpor orb seems meh without pod

How would you do the sideboard and reasons for each choose
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Natxoblogg on January 30, 2015, 12:00:53 AM
I think that  {Liliana's Caress} Is a good option
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Munchlax on January 30, 2015, 12:16:52 AM
Quote from: Natxoblogg on January 30, 2015, 12:00:53 AM
I think that  {Liliana's Caress} Is a good option
It doesn't do enough. It takes up a turn for a bulky enchantment that has too little impact on the game itself. {Waste Not} is much better and for the same cost you get something no matter what they discard
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on January 30, 2015, 02:43:36 AM
My 8 rack sideboard is as follows:

Torpor orb x 2 - for reasons already stated
Disenchant x 3 - the deck cannot deal with artifacts or enchantments very well and bogles is a thing. So is the mirror.
Leyline of the void x 2 - every deck needs graveyard hate
Extirpate x 2 - for the control matchups. Does work against storm also.
Dismember x 2 - not a lot of main board removal. Comes in handy against creature heavy decks with creatures that have annoying abilities eg noble Heirach
Path to exile x 1 - see above
Damnation x 1 - when spot removal isn't enough. Gets around hexproof
Leyline of sanctity x 2 - burn and mill are a thing in my meta. Also useful in the mirror.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 30, 2015, 09:51:09 AM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on January 30, 2015, 02:43:36 AM
My 8 rack sideboard is as follows:

Torpor orb x 2 - for reasons already stated
Disenchant x 3 - the deck cannot deal with artifacts or enchantments very well and bogles is a thing. So is the mirror.
Leyline of the void x 2 - every deck needs graveyard hate
Extirpate x 2 - for the control matchups. Does work against storm also.
Dismember x 2 - not a lot of main board removal. Comes in handy against creature heavy decks with creatures that have annoying abilities eg noble Heirach
Path to exile x 1 - see above
Damnation x 1 - when spot removal isn't enough. Gets around hexproof
Leyline of sanctity x 2 - burn and mill are a thing in my meta. Also useful in the mirror.

I don't run white in this list! But I line the suggestions
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on January 30, 2015, 06:48:50 PM
I was originally mono black but i just couldnt cope with any deck that relied on non creature permanents. Thats why i splashed white and havent looked back.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 30, 2015, 07:47:59 PM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on January 30, 2015, 06:48:50 PM
I was originally mono black but i just couldnt cope with any deck that relied on non creature permanents. Thats why i splashed white and havent looked back.

I have a W/B rack list in the works. I put your suggestions in that one.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on January 31, 2015, 01:26:09 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 30, 2015, 07:47:59 PM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on January 30, 2015, 06:48:50 PM
I was originally mono black but i just couldnt cope with any deck that relied on non creature permanents. Thats why i splashed white and havent looked back.

I have a W/B rack list in the works. I put your suggestions in that one.

My white is only a small splash for path to exile (main and sideboard) and disenchant and path to exile and leyline of sanctity (sideboard). Ive found anything more puts too much strain on the mana base because i run a few double black spells in the mainboard. Urborg helps but im in a pretty happy place right now with the small white splash.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Roberto982 on February 04, 2015, 02:16:44 AM
I've gone R/B with my 8Rack deck, then put one Overgrown tomb in for the Golgari charms in sideboard :)
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Roberto982 on February 04, 2015, 02:19:03 AM
Also, i find Liliana's Caress is just another wincon with the 8 racks. Combo Liliana's caress and waste not with Burning inquiry for insane value, and a load of damage
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on February 04, 2015, 07:37:42 AM
Quote from: Roberto982 on February 04, 2015, 02:19:03 AM
Also, i find Liliana's Caress is just another wincon with the 8 racks. Combo Liliana's caress and waste not with Burning inquiry for insane value, and a load of damage

The problem I have with {Liliana's Caress} is that the mana I use it for will be used almost every time to get rid of threats from someone's hand and there is no room. The list is so tight at the moment.  Id rather run {Quest for the nihil stone} if I had the room.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on February 04, 2015, 03:43:21 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on February 04, 2015, 07:37:42 AM
Quote from: Roberto982 on February 04, 2015, 02:19:03 AM
Also, i find Liliana's Caress is just another wincon with the 8 racks. Combo Liliana's caress and waste not with Burning inquiry for insane value, and a load of damage

The problem I have with {Liliana's Caress} is that the mana I use it for will be used almost every time to get rid of threats from someone's hand and there is no room. The list is so tight at the moment.  Id rather run {Quest for the nihil stone} if I had the room.

I wouldn't run either. There are more efficient ways to use mana.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mattao19 on February 04, 2015, 03:50:32 PM
I know it's less awkward bc you don't care about your lands too much but how have you found 3 Urborgs? Does it get awkward?
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on February 04, 2015, 07:39:15 PM
Excess lands can be discarded to flashback {raven's crime}
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on February 04, 2015, 07:40:01 PM
And sacrificed to {smallpox}
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on February 04, 2015, 07:53:01 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on February 04, 2015, 03:50:32 PM
I know it's less awkward bc you don't care about your lands too much but how have you found 3 Urborgs? Does it get awkward?

I need the third urborg, when I played 2, I was getting perfect hand but with 2 colourless lands. So I adddd the third and I have got mana screwed a hell of a lot less. I need the utility lands so much cos of the Liner stratagem it uses. But I also need black mana. Temped to run 4 urborg to be honest.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mattao19 on February 04, 2015, 08:28:05 PM
Ok jc :P also goes Waste Not been doing?
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on February 05, 2015, 06:34:12 PM
It was bad when treasure cruise was legal. But it's doing better now.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on February 09, 2015, 07:17:55 PM
Testing my changes to this list on Thursday wish me luck!
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on April 22, 2015, 07:02:04 PM
Updated after latest round of testing hoping to do well at modern Tournement Thursday.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mattao19 on April 22, 2015, 09:18:37 PM
I feel like you need a SB {Disenchant}
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Spencer Addington on April 23, 2015, 01:01:33 AM
Good luck!
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: General Kiwi on April 23, 2015, 08:23:03 AM
This deck is very similar to mine. I love the deck it is amazing against controll but how are you handeling bw tokens and naya burn? Those match ups are 50/50 for me and I'm not seeing a lot in the board that gives you that needed push. Overall good build
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: LinkCelestrial on April 23, 2015, 03:29:57 PM
Quote from: General Kiwi on April 23, 2015, 08:23:03 AM
This deck is very similar to mine. I love the deck it is amazing against controll but how are you handeling bw tokens and naya burn? Those match ups are 50/50 for me and I'm not seeing a lot in the board that gives you that needed push. Overall good build

{Ensnaring Bridge}. Ditch your own hand and bleed them dry.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on August 05, 2015, 04:25:10 AM
Any ideas how you get 8 rack to work better in current meta?
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on November 26, 2015, 05:30:22 PM
Splashed white
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 11, 2016, 11:00:26 AM
Had a break from magic for Xmas! Now back ,made some tweeks to the deck hope you guys like!
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Spencer Addington on January 11, 2016, 06:38:05 PM
How has 2 smallpox been with 22 lands?
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 13, 2016, 06:16:16 AM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 11, 2016, 06:38:05 PM
How has 2 smallpox been with 22 lands?
It has been known to bite me in the butt sometimes!
But usually it works out fine, they worked amazing in pure black list.

Only becomes a problem if my opponent is running heavy land destruction. As the deck can only deal with a little!
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 17, 2016, 03:11:41 AM
Hmmm now how to side board, with twin and bloom gone?????
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Spencer Addington on January 17, 2016, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 17, 2016, 03:11:41 AM
Hmmm now how to side board, with twin and bloom gone?????
Did you ever really need a sideboard for twin or bloom? Those were both solid games for 8rack, especially when running smallpox.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Kaylesh on January 17, 2016, 03:06:21 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 17, 2016, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 17, 2016, 03:11:41 AM
Hmmm now how to side board, with twin and bloom gone?????
Did you ever really need a sideboard for twin or bloom? Those were both solid games for 8rack, especially when running smallpox.
Guessing the 2 {erase} were there for either.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 17, 2016, 04:15:04 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 17, 2016, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 17, 2016, 03:11:41 AM
Hmmm now how to side board, with twin and bloom gone?????
Did you ever really need a sideboard for twin or bloom? Those were both solid games for 8rack, especially when running smallpox.

I always use to get beaten 2-1 by them! Even when piloted by new players to those decks! Bloom would get something big of the feed before my bridge or pact me to death!
And twin always top decked into a twin win! Or just best me down after bouncing my bridge!
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 23, 2016, 06:36:12 PM
Gone back to mono black list! As predict the meta to be tron, aggro, blood moon
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Spencer Addington on January 23, 2016, 07:46:09 PM
Wouldn't 8rackdos be better against both torn and aggressive decks? More land hate in red(crumble to dust) and bolts/Kolaghan's command for aggro.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 24, 2016, 02:58:06 AM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 23, 2016, 07:46:09 PM
Wouldn't 8rackdos be better against both torn and aggressive decks? More land hate in red(crumble to dust) and bolts/Kolaghan's command for aggro.

I do some testing on red/black lists!

Never been a fan for some reason! But if they work out I'll make some modifications.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on March 21, 2016, 12:05:20 PM
After taking a break from modern for medical reasons( a shrieking affliction you might say)   I'm back from the veil, and here to stretch my way to tier 1 8rack lol

With the explosion that is eldrazi, I am bring this deck out of the rack and as into the light as I will waste not this chance!

So 4 place in a eldrazi fueled wasteland that is modern tournaments atm.

Eldrazi are a good match up for me!
I get rid of them 2-0 sometimes 2-1

So far tested against U/R, colourless and B versions.

Have only lose one game to U/R as I risked a one land hand.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mattao19 on March 21, 2016, 12:07:40 PM
All of the puns lol :D

Is that list up to date or have you changed it at all?
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on March 21, 2016, 04:05:10 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 21, 2016, 12:07:40 PM
All of the puns lol :D

Is that list up to date or have you changed it at all?

Currently up to date list
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: LinkCelestrial on March 22, 2016, 06:00:23 PM
{Murderous Cut} maybe? You discard enough that you can play it for {B}...I dunno. Might be worth some testing.

Love the archetype. Glad you're wrecking those Eldrazi.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mattao19 on March 22, 2016, 06:06:47 PM
Is mutavaults not good anymore?
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on March 22, 2016, 07:13:19 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 22, 2016, 06:06:47 PM
Is mutavaults not good anymore?

It works best in the packrat variant.
And the 2 power is bad with bridge.


If I have to use a manland I'll use {Blinkmoth Nexus}
As I only need one card in hand and pump up after declaring an attack.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Spencer Addington on March 25, 2016, 07:47:47 PM
How have the bitter blossoms been? I found them lack luster. A card that does nothing the turn it comes down, then gets you a 1/1 flier that has summoning sickness seemed kinda bad to me. I get they can attack under brigde, but they never seemed worth it to me.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on March 25, 2016, 09:10:46 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on March 25, 2016, 07:47:47 PM
How have the bitter blossoms been? I found them lack luster. A card that does nothing the turn it comes down, then gets you a 1/1 flier that has summoning sickness seemed kinda bad to me. I get they can attack under brigde, but they never seemed worth it to me.

I have also never been a fan. They don't help your gameplan at all, I would much rather play more discard.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Spencer Addington on March 26, 2016, 02:10:09 AM
I need to update my list. I like the smallpox build right now, but that can change pretty fast depending on the upcoming bans.
Title: Re: Smallpox/8Rack
Post by: Teysa karlov on March 30, 2016, 07:32:33 AM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on March 25, 2016, 09:10:46 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on March 25, 2016, 07:47:47 PM
How have the bitter blossoms been? I found them lack luster. A card that does nothing the turn it comes down, then gets you a 1/1 flier that has summoning sickness seemed kinda bad to me. I get they can attack under brigde, but they never seemed worth it to me.

I have also never been a fan. They don't help your gameplan at all, I would much rather play more discard.

It's alt win con and they are chump blockers giving me time to lock down the game! Also I know when not to play them!
Depending of banning they may be replaced though. Tempted to run dark confident again!