Quick question: since {progenitus} has protection from everything, would I be able to sac it for {Vish Kal, blood arbiter} 's ability? I thought you might be able to because I would be the one sacrificing it. I just need a ruling bc I tried doing that the other day bc my friend played {black sun zenith} and rather than let him die, I wanted to sac him to save Vish Kal.
Rule 701.13a
Thats the best i can find. But yes you can. Pro everything can still be destroyed by saccing abilites or abilities like {Geth's Verdict}
Remember, protection covers DEBT: Damage, Equip/Enchant, Blocking, Targeting. Anything else is not prevented
{Progenitus} could also be read this way (but wordier):
Prevent all damage that would be dealt to Progenitus.
Progenitus cannot be equipped, enchanted, blocked, or targeted.
True but I wasn't sure if sacing fell under targeting. Thanks. So next time I'll have a 15/15 vampire. Awesome.
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on March 29, 2012, 12:42:45 PM
True but I wasn't sure if sacing fell under targeting. Thanks. So next time I'll have a 15/15 vampire. Awesome.
The only two times targeting happens are when:
A) You cast an Aura and try to attach it to a creature. (But if an aura somehow comes into play, like with {Sun Titan}, you can enchant a creature without targeting. Weird, I know.)
B) The actual word "target" shows up in the text.
Anything else is not targeting.
I mention this because there are cards that cause you to sacrifice a target card. Look at {Sarkhan the Mad}'s #2 ability:
"Target creature's controller sacrifices it, then that player puts a 5/5 red Dragon creature token with flying onto the battlefield."
Yes it's a sacrifice, but it has the word target, so {Progenitus} is immune to the Madman.
Compare this to {Liliana of the Veil}'s #2:
"Target player sacrifices a creature."
If {Progenitus} is the only dude on your side, you'll have to sac it.
Clear?
Yep. Thanks. Gunna definately kill my friend for this bc I lost bc I had to kill off both my creatures.
Does {progenitus} have protection from "your mother"?
Quote from: JakeyWakey on March 30, 2012, 12:04:48 AM
Does {progenitus} have protection from "your mother"?
It might have protection from your mother, definitely not from mine tho.
Quote from: JakeyWakey on March 30, 2012, 12:04:48 AM
Does {progenitus} have protection from "your mother"?
{Mother of Runes}? Yes, it does.
{Mother of Goons}?
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on March 30, 2012, 10:27:19 AM
{Mother of Goons}?
It has protection from her too, since it never goes to the gy, she doesn't need to insult it. :P