Sorry, but its true. There is nothing left on Zendikar. The Eldrazi destroyed it all. Its kind of sad. But if the Eldrazi return they'll have gone to another plane, sort of like Phyrexia did.
But koria's story states that she plans to go back to zendikar. And so does elspeth for that matter! THERE WILL BE A RETURN!!!
But Kiora left before it was destroyed. She left in search of something to defeat the Eldrazi. But the Ekdrazi have already destroyed everything
Elspeth also has no idea. They are going to return to find everything is gone. It will be the saddest story of all time
So they WILL return...
But it won't be a set
That is a big call! I doubt it will ever NOT be a set again and besides, The Roil perfectly sets up some kind of creative avenue for rebirth of soil or hidden mana wells. Ye of little faith, don't go nay sayin yet.
For example: It would be a perfect way to reintroduce {Nissa Revane} as the {B}{G}, land drop/reanimate type the internet has been screaming for! She's all ticked off that her forest is destroyed, let's bring back all her fallen elfin brethren and regrow the jungle! See in thirty seconds, I've come up with a semi plausible return to zendikar bit (given that hypothetically the Eldrazi HAS destroyed everything irreparably), the WotC crew get paid to do this 9 to 5!
MaRo has said nothing is out of the question and if they want to go back to Zendikar next - which it is all pointing back to a yes - then they'll find a way. Besides from Kiora turning up looking for big things to take home as part of her story, there are a lot of big pump able creatures to contend with things the size of Eldrazi anyway, {Colossus of Akros} to name the crappiest one!
Then again, go a head, keep saying they'll do something because there's no way they'd reprint JtMS either...
Red the book! At the WMD it says that there were some survivors, including a band of Elves and nissa that went around and restored life to Eldrazi- torn regions. Perfect setup for a return!
Quote from: Mlerner12 on February 02, 2014, 12:14:52 AM
Read the book! At the WMD it says that there were some survivors, including a band of Elves and nissa that went around and restored life to Eldrazi- torn regions. Perfect setup for a return!
There you go and I haven't even read the book!
Also gideon killed emrakul proving that the gods can be beat. It might not look the same but we will be there again. I estimate within 2 years as the 7 year plan is almost up.
Zendikar must be returned to. Also, Maro has already said he would be shocked if we never see the Eldrazi again. Secondly, Modern is WOTC's favorite format, they have been pushing it a lot because Legacy and Vintage lose out because of the Reserved List and if Modern is going to stick around, they need to reprint the fetches.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on February 02, 2014, 04:36:08 AM
Zendikar must be returned to. Also, Maro has already said he would be shocked if we never see the Eldrazi again. Secondly, Modern is WOTC's favorite format, they have been pushing it a lot because Legacy and Vintage lose out because of the Reserved List and if Modern is going to stick around, they need to reprint the fetches.
Cant wait for fetches!!
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Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on February 02, 2014, 04:36:08 AM
Zendikar must be returned to. Also, Maro has already said he would be shocked if we never see the Eldrazi again. Secondly, Modern is WOTC's favorite format, they have been pushing it a lot because Legacy and Vintage lose out because of the Reserved List and if Modern is going to stick around, they need to reprint the fetches.
Cant wait for fetches!!
Neither can I. I don't want to spend $60 on a Rainforest.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on February 02, 2014, 04:30:40 AM
Also gideon killed emrakul proving that the gods can be beat.
Really? I must have missed that part of the story - how'd he manage to accomplish that? Is there a link to the short story? I'd love to give it a read.
I knew Gideon ended up coming to Ravnica to get more help against the Eldrazi, but I'd never heard anything about Emrakul being dead.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on February 02, 2014, 04:36:08 AM
Zendikar must be returned to. Also, Maro has already said he would be shocked if we never see the Eldrazi again. Secondly, Modern is WOTC's favorite format, they have been pushing it a lot because Legacy and Vintage lose out because of the Reserved List and if Modern is going to stick around, they need to reprint the fetches.
Thats why I said we might end up seeing the Eldrazi Migrating to another plane to destroy some more stuff.
There was no indication that it was too late. Plus, maybe planes walking can also walk to a time, not just a space. As long as it was chronologically after the last time you visited. So maybe they can arrive just seconds after they left
I didn't think about that. I like that idea. maybe the set could be called something along the lines of "The Time of Zendikar" or something like that
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Quote from: Kaleo42 on February 02, 2014, 04:30:40 AM
Also gideon killed emrakul proving that the gods can be beat.
Really? I must have missed that part of the story - how'd he manage to accomplish that? Is there a link to the short story? I'd love to give it a read.
I knew Gideon ended up coming to Ravnica to get more help against the Eldrazi, but I'd never heard anything about Emrakul being dead.
{near-death expeirence} depicts the moment of victory.
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Quote from: Kaleo42 on February 02, 2014, 04:30:40 AM
Also gideon killed emrakul proving that the gods can be beat.
Really? I must have missed that part of the story - how'd he manage to accomplish that? Is there a link to the short story? I'd love to give it a read.
I knew Gideon ended up coming to Ravnica to get more help against the Eldrazi, but I'd never heard anything about Emrakul being dead.
{near-death expeirence} depicts the moment of victory.
That doesn't look like Emarakual on the ground there. Sorry but it really doesn't
To be honest, the storyline is just setting it up too much to not return. Gideon is running around looking for his superfriends and Kiora is looking to find a way to defeat them, so we will most likely see some ultra crazy fight. That plus the economic success of the set and the need to reprint fetches equals a return.
Zendikar was not destroyed to the point of no return. Rosewater even said so himself.
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/40526931473/after-the-events-of-rise-of-the-eldrazi-was-zendikar
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Quote from: Kaleo42 on February 02, 2014, 04:30:40 AM
Also gideon killed emrakul proving that the gods can be beat.
Really? I must have missed that part of the story - how'd he manage to accomplish that? Is there a link to the short story? I'd love to give it a read.
I knew Gideon ended up coming to Ravnica to get more help against the Eldrazi, but I'd never heard anything about Emrakul being dead.
{near-death expeirence} depicts the moment of victory.
I'll be damned. I wish I knew how he managed that! But that's really neat to know, thanks for teaching me some new lore!
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Quote from: Gorzo on February 02, 2014, 05:03:04 AM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on February 02, 2014, 04:30:40 AM
Also gideon killed emrakul proving that the gods can be beat.
Really? I must have missed that part of the story - how'd he manage to accomplish that? Is there a link to the short story? I'd love to give it a read.
I knew Gideon ended up coming to Ravnica to get more help against the Eldrazi, but I'd never heard anything about Emrakul being dead.
{near-death expeirence} depicts the moment of victory.
I'll be damned. I wish I knew how he managed that! But that's really neat to know, thanks for teaching me some new lore!
He used his -2: destroy target tapped creature. He had to take the hit to get the openning though.
A quick google search reveals: Gideon didn't kill Emrakul.
"Gideon fought bravely amongst the soldiers of Fort Keff and he alone turned the tide against the brood. A cry of celebration went up, until Emrakul darkened the skies. Gideon told all the beings of the fort to flee, to follow the surrakar to the underground rivers.
Left alone, Gideon simply stared at the titan before him, and desperately, he tried to think of some way to fight the creature before him. Only one solution came to him, and Gideon left to seek the assistance of a group of planeswalkers he had heard rumors about on the plane of Ravnica. (presumably the Infinite Consortium)"
source: http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Gideon_Jura
Quote from: Gorzo on February 02, 2014, 12:47:47 PM
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Quote from: Gorzo on February 02, 2014, 05:03:04 AM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on February 02, 2014, 04:30:40 AM
Also gideon killed emrakul proving that the gods can be beat.
Really? I must have missed that part of the story - how'd he manage to accomplish that? Is there a link to the short story? I'd love to give it a read.
I knew Gideon ended up coming to Ravnica to get more help against the Eldrazi, but I'd never heard anything about Emrakul being dead.
{near-death expeirence} depicts the moment of victory.
I'll be damned. I wish I knew how he managed that! But that's really neat to know, thanks for teaching me some new lore!
It's an eldrazi spawn I believe. He left to find help to kill emrakul.
Next stop on the Eldrazi tour... The original Phyrexian plane, which they will resurrect Yawgmoth....
I could only wish...
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Quote from: Gorzo on February 02, 2014, 05:03:04 AM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on February 02, 2014, 04:30:40 AM
Also gideon killed emrakul proving that the gods can be beat.
Really? I must have missed that part of the story - how'd he manage to accomplish that? Is there a link to the short story? I'd love to give it a read.
I knew Gideon ended up coming to Ravnica to get more help against the Eldrazi, but I'd never heard anything about Emrakul being dead.
{near-death expeirence} depicts the moment of victory.
I'll be damned. I wish I knew how he managed that! But that's really neat to know, thanks for teaching me some new lore!
It's an eldrazi spawn I believe. He left to find help to kill emrakul.
The average spawn is just larger than the average adult. The ones that aren't are man like and not nearly Emrakul's size.
Something interesting I read while looking up Gideon info.
"Gideon heard legends in his travels referencing a large naturally occuring fountain of white mana that took the shape of fire on the plane of Regatha. It was called the Purifying Fire by the Order of Heliud"
A large fountain of white mana, could it be possible that {Heliod, God of the Sun} has been praised for centuries throughout the Multiverse? Maybe with his help three planeswalkers will travel back to Zendikar to save it.
Quote from: Quisequise on February 02, 2014, 04:38:21 PM
Something interesting I read while looking up Gideon info.
"Gideon heard legends in his travels referencing a large naturally occuring fountain of white mana that took the shape of fire on the plane of Regatha. It was called the Purifying Fire by the Order of Heliud"
A large fountain of white mana, could it be possible that {Heliod, God of the Sun} has been praised for centuries throughout the Multiverse? Maybe with his help three planeswalkers will travel back to Zendikar to save it.
There's a book on that, years before Heliod existed. It's just a natural thing, not man made.
I think the eldrazi are attacking because there a bit disoriented...I think {Icatian crier}'s flavor text best describes what I'm talking about. Maybe at one time, they were peacful beings, but someone tried to use them for evil. Then they were sealed away. And recently brought back, yet no time has passed for them
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 02, 2014, 05:22:14 PM
I think the eldrazi are attacking because there a bit disoriented...I think {Icatian crier}'s flavor text best describes what I'm talking about. Maybe at one time, they were peacful beings, but someone tried to use them for evil. Then they were sealed away. And recently brought back, yet no time has passed for them
The book described them as evil, bloodthirsty beings before they were locked up,
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on February 02, 2014, 05:23:57 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 02, 2014, 05:22:14 PM
I think the eldrazi are attacking because there a bit disoriented...I think {Icatian crier}'s flavor text best describes what I'm talking about. Maybe at one time, they were peacful beings, but someone tried to use them for evil. Then they were sealed away. And recently brought back, yet no time has passed for them
The book described them as evil, bloodthirsty beings before they were locked up,
Humm Icatian's. Could it be a zendikar fallen empire crossover. Maybe the fallen empire was zendikar. Then this is just going back in order.
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I think the eldrazi are attacking because there a bit disoriented...I think {Icatian crier}'s flavor text best describes what I'm talking about. Maybe at one time, they were peacful beings, but someone tried to use them for evil. Then they were sealed away. And recently brought back, yet no time has passed for them
The book described them as evil, bloodthirsty beings before they were locked up,
Humm Icatian's. Could it be a zendikar fallen empire crossover. Maybe the fallen empire was zendikar. Then this is just going back in order.
no it wasn't. It was talking about the plane Dominiria. Some real messed up stuff happened that caused a rip in the time stream
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Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on February 02, 2014, 05:23:57 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 02, 2014, 05:22:14 PM
I think the eldrazi are attacking because there a bit disoriented...I think {Icatian crier}'s flavor text best describes what I'm talking about. Maybe at one time, they were peacful beings, but someone tried to use them for evil. Then they were sealed away. And recently brought back, yet no time has passed for them
The book described them as evil, bloodthirsty beings before they were locked up,
Humm Icatian's. Could it be a zendikar fallen empire crossover. Maybe the fallen empire was zendikar. Then this is just going back in order.
no it wasn't. It was talking about the plane Dominiria. Some real messed up stuff happened that caused a rip in the time stream
Didn't karn and another planeswalker lose their spark when they closed it?
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on February 02, 2014, 05:23:57 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 02, 2014, 05:22:14 PM
I think the eldrazi are attacking because there a bit disoriented...I think {Icatian crier}'s flavor text best describes what I'm talking about. Maybe at one time, they were peacful beings, but someone tried to use them for evil. Then they were sealed away. And recently brought back, yet no time has passed for them
The book described them as evil, bloodthirsty beings before they were locked up,
They aren't evil so much as mindless. Annihilator literally represents them devouring everything in their path, which is how they live.
As for any JtMS, he won't be reprinted, but I do think they will have Fatseal, reprinted {Unsummon}, {Brainstorm}, and something like JtMS' ult, all as a kind of homage
Quote from: DylanW18 on February 02, 2014, 07:18:24 PM
As for any JtMS, he won't be reprinted, but I do think they will have Fatseal, reprinted {Unsummon}, {Brainstorm}, and something like JtMS' ult, all as a kind of homage
MaRo said fateseal was not fun to be on the reciving end of, so I doubt they will reprint it.
Perhaps a fateseal 1 effect on a single card?
Maybe we'll see a new Chandra, a RW one since was bathed in the purifying fire and survived...
Maybe a new {Eye of Ugin}? A different card but still the same place. Or maybe a reprint of {Eldrazi Monument}
I like fateseal... Dammit MaRo, stop designing stuff not exactly the way I want!
I stand corrected and informed.