I was playing them after class. One had a very bad Kumano Red, the other a Dimir Mill, and the last one a fked up Izzet deck.
I was playing casual Humans mono-white. First turn {Champion of the Parish}, second a {Gather the Townsfolk} and so on... I swung my Champion for 15 plus like 7 other 1/1's an 2/2's with help from three {Honor of te Pure}. Soo...about 46 damage. We had 30 life each. They wanted to play me three on one and still lost. What do you guys think?
i think that they should have been taking notes on how to be a better player.
I think you should've helped them with their decks and taught them as you played rather than making them cry. Obviously that's the part you're most proud of since you titled your thread after the fact. I find that rather off-putting, especially for what's supposed to be a fun Casual game....
Quote from: IntoFire on January 28, 2014, 07:27:04 AM
I was playing them after class. One had a very bad Kumano Red, the other a Dimir Mill, and the last one a fked up Izzet deck.
I was playing casual Humans mono-white. First turn {Champion of the Parish}, second a {Gather the Townsfolk} and so on... I swung my Champion for 15 plus like 7 other 1/1's an 2/2's with help from three {Honor of te Pure}. Soo...about 46 damage. We had 30 life each. They wanted to play me three on one and still lost. What do you guys think?
whats wrong with you?
Lol this is the funniest and also most awful thread I've read yet...
Quote from: LadyGrixis on January 28, 2014, 09:17:59 AM
I think you should've helped them with their decks and taught them as you played rather than making them cry. Obviously that's the part you're most proud of snide you titled your thread after the fact. I find that rather off-putting, especially for what's supposed to be a fun Casual game....
I 100% agree with this. I don't know what kind of sick schadenfreude you got out of this, but it's pretty messed up.
Should of helped them. Everyone's got to start somewhere.
Did they actually cry though? Because I think people are taking that literally :X
Quote from: Walkhard on January 28, 2014, 12:13:58 PM
Should of helped them. Everyone's got to start somewhere.
Did they actually cry though? Because I think people are taking that literally :X
That's not relly the point. The point I that he played young kids, as a young kid, he found it amusing. He decided not to durably help out.
I'm in agreement that he shouldn't have acted the way he did. He should have helped them, like I said everyone's got to start somewhere and he oboviously felt better than them.
Was just trying to let him save face a bit because that post does sound rather bad as he said it.
Seriously. Maybe a douche move but.. I mean if you werent like a jerk to them. No big deal. I had to get my trash drcks rocked before I got any good. My bro is seventh grader and for all intents and purposes plays my casual zombies.. its advanced. He does three on ones with girls and guys his age and they don't cry...
Seventh graders aren't that young. .
If your a bully your a bully and that's a different root issue
All this white knighting is making me sick.
Quote from: Taysby on January 28, 2014, 12:50:16 PM
Almost all of my decks, lego, modern, standard, doesn't matter it just ends up becoming a 4 vs me and I still win. Most of the time. it's mildly amusing when I pound all of their modern legal decks with my standard deck... ;)
Your modern decks must not be competitive lol
Quote from: #noided on January 28, 2014, 01:16:42 PM
All this white knighting is making me sick.
It's not white knighting. It's called being a nice person. But get sick if you think you need to.
Maybe he did give them deck advice after the game. Would it have been more acceptable for him to stop mid game and say "well let me give you some deck advice right now instead."? If I stomp someone, I let it happen, then after the game is done I kindly explain what they can do to improve. From what I see in the OP, he didn't mention what happened after the game, everyone is just assuming. He's obviously young, let the kid boast.
Quote from: Moneekahh on January 28, 2014, 02:16:18 PM
Maybe he did give them deck advice after the game. Would it have been more acceptable for him to stop mid game and say "well let me give you some deck advice right now instead."? If I stomp someone, I let it happen, then after the game is done I kindly explain what they can do to improve. From what I see in the OP, he didn't mention what happened after the game, everyone is just assuming. He's obviously young, let the kid boast.
that can hurt people's feelings though. Even if he was boasting, he should at least tell them where he thought they had gone wrong
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 28, 2014, 02:18:57 PMthat can hurt people's feelings though. Even if he was boasting, he should at least tell them where he thought they had gone wrong
And how do we know that didn't happen?
But he chose not to mention anything aside from the fact that he "made them cry". I, for one, don't think that being a little humble sometimes is a bad thing. I also don't chose to play with people who enjoy gloating. Winning is fine and getting excited is great; but there's a better way to express it I feel. That's all :)
I'm not sure if you guys noticed this but further down fire actually asks for a deck list using one of the cards the 7th grader used. So before the judgement is cast, it seems like he actually tried to help. Has no one ever had a moment of complete dominance where we feel the need to boast? He's young, let him live.
I have made two little boys cry in Super Smash Bros. tournaments on separate occasions.
One of them was around 10 years old
One was autistic
But I dont feel guilty cuz I was either friendly or silent
Quote from: Ertai on January 28, 2014, 02:23:33 PM
It's called speculation. Based on what info was given, people made the comments.
What it's are endless.
What if you're terrible at magic? What if I'm bilbo baggins?
I didn't see speculation, I saw assumption. Saying "oh that was so bad of you why weren't you nice and offer any advice?" is an assumption, whereas, "maybe he did offer advice." is a speculation. He didn't actually offer any context clues as to whether or not this happened.
LG, I agree with you that it's not great to boast about making anyone cry, but I also assume that he didn't intend to make them cry by playing against them, and I believe that makes a difference.
Btw, were you all this humble all the time as adolescents? Just curious.
Well there was no magic when I was a small child. But other games, NOPE.
Quote from: Moneekahh on January 28, 2014, 02:31:24 PM
Quote from: Ertai on January 28, 2014, 02:23:33 PM
It's called speculation. Based on what info was given, people made the comments.
What it's are endless.
What if you're terrible at magic? What if I'm bilbo baggins?
I didn't see speculation, I saw assumption. Saying "oh that was so bad of you why weren't you nice and offer any advice?" is an assumption, whereas, "maybe he did offer advice." is a speculation. He didn't actually offer any context clues as to whether or not this happened.
LG, I agree with you that it's not great to boast about making anyone cry, but I also assume that he didn't intend to make them cry by playing against them, and I believe that makes a difference.
Btw, were you all this humble all the time as adolescents? Just curious.
There may have been times where I wasn't; but boy if my parents caught me acting this way, I would get a switch taken to me. I learned that lesson pretty quick o_o;
Pretty sure out society is geared to make our youth competitive & aspire to be number 1.
Quote from: Muggywuggy on January 28, 2014, 03:21:27 PM
Pretty sure out society is geared to make our youth competitive & aspire to be number 1.
You can still be competitive and great without being a dick. That's my point.
Yes, but kids don't know that.
They learn it if taught properly.
Also, this encompasses every player; I'm not just referring to kids here.
Quote from: Ertai on January 28, 2014, 03:46:14 PM
Quote from: LadyGrixis on January 28, 2014, 03:44:48 PM
They learn it if taught properly.
You do know we live in America?
Lol taught properly.
I have no idea how to take that comment. And yes, I was raised in a household where you, if applicable, are a good person and treat others accordingly.
Quote from: LadyGrixis on January 28, 2014, 03:45:24 PM
Also, this encompasses every player; I'm not just referring to kids here.
Honestly this is getting out of hand. The world is a grey minefield full of positive people and negative people. No one would be who they are today without both positive and negative experiences shaping them. Those kids could buck up after the experience, and get better. Without it they would just stagnate. Staying the same, thinking they were fine when they weren't. Don't berate him for this.
If I recall right there was an issue a while back of you dealing with some negative players. Didn't that life experience better you?
Also, just curios to see you back after that whole "leaving the forum forever" thing not too long ago.
Quote from: Vyse on January 28, 2014, 04:11:40 PM
Quote from: LadyGrixis on January 28, 2014, 03:45:24 PM
Also, this encompasses every player; I'm not just referring to kids here.
Honestly this is getting out of hand. The world is a grey minefield full of positive people and negative people. No one would be who they are today without both positive and negative experiences shaping them. Those kids could buck up after the experience, and get better. Without it they would just stagnate. Staying the same, thinking they were fine when they weren't. Don't berate him for this.
If I recall right there was an issue a while back of you dealing with some negative players. Didn't that life experience better you?
Also, just curios to see you back after that whole "leaving the forum forever" thing not too long ago.
And you've just added to the getting out of hand aspect. And I'm not going to please you with a response to a completely OFF TOPIC comment concerning myself. That has nothing to do with this thread.
I've said my part and I'm not playing devil's advocate here.
I made a kid cry once, he was on his way to his first FNM win, and my deck decided that him getting paired down against me, who wasn't in the running, was the perfect time to give me unbeatable draws. He wasn't feeling well, either, which didn't help. It was the worst I've ever felt playing magic. Seriously. He's a regular, too, so I know he's a great kid. Broke my heart. I tried everything I could to help.
So yeah, I don't really get why it's something to sound proud of. Because that felt absolutely awful.
Quote from: Noblellama on January 28, 2014, 04:18:23 PM
As I recall she said she would take a break for a while, not "leave the forum forever"
Please be careful of "quoting" someone on something they never said
As for the topic, let's stay on task
I do agree that it could be a learning experience for them to get trounced, and I hope they treat it as such. Otherwise it would be kinda sad...
Quote from: LadyGrixis on November 21, 2013, 09:04:19 AM
To the 4 of you, whomever you may be, that negged me for this post yesterday: you are solidifying my decision furthermore to run away from this place and not look back. Hope you continue to enjoy being pricks and effing with people's Karma. You're a bunch of punks. And you probably smell like dirty socks mixed with a pile of garbage.
Check yoself before you riggity-wreck yoself fools.
Sidenote: I love all of those who responded here. I'll keep in touch.
you are solidifying my decision furthermore to run away from this place and not look back.
Run away from this place and not look back...
Sounds pretty final to me. To me it seems most of you place LadyGrixis on a pedestal and white knight her like this. Anyway this is way off-topic and I do apologize for that, but I thought I'd state my mind here instead of starting a topic soley about it.
Regardless, I think you did nothing wrong op, holding back on them would just allow them to continue holding back themselves.
You're truly making this a personal, aren't you?
Well kudos to you, because if you read further, I mention hiatus. But I'm not going to go dig through months-old posts just to prove a point.
Can a mod lock this thread? It's pointless.
Not locking it, but I will remind users to avoid personal attacks and instigating arguments please. We're all on this love boat together, no reason to ride any drama llamas on deck.
Quote from: IntoFire on January 28, 2014, 07:27:04 AM
I was playing them after class. One had a very bad Kumano Red, the other a Dimir Mill, and the last one a fked up Izzet deck.
I was playing casual Humans mono-white. First turn {Champion of the Parish}, second a {Gather the Townsfolk} and so on... I swung my Champion for 15 plus like 7 other 1/1's an 2/2's with help from three {Honor of te Pure}. Soo...about 46 damage. We had 30 life each. They wanted to play me three on one and still lost. What do you guys think?
Older players (in terms of how long they have been playing magic) will often beat the newer players. A good thing for the older players to do is give advice. And the newer players should be willing to listen. You did nothing wrong by beating them and it's good that you are asking for advice on these forums. The next time you face someone obviously worse than you, teach them something, and maybe let them try your deck if you feel so inclined.
Magic is a game. It has a winner and a loser. Being the winner doesn't make you a bad person. From what I read it doesn't seem like you gloated or anything. Just always be a good sport, and help newer ayers. That will get you a long way for sure.
I will be disregarding the off topic comments here. (Totally not necessary btw)
I agree with what you said about kid being taught properly, LG. As a parent, one of my main goals is to make sure my kid doesn't grow up to be an .rearexit.. But as someone who has studied youth psychology, I know that every adolescent goes through a phase of self importance, and to be honest, that is what I read this OP as. It doesn't make the way he titled his thread less offensive, but to me, this is a kid being a kid, boasting for recognition, and berating him for it isn't helpful. Lg was actually spot on in her first post "maybe you should have helped..." But it went on from there to several people just making him feel bad when he didn't even tell us how he handled it afterwards. Meh, I just saw it from a different perspective that's all.
Quote from: Moneekahh on January 28, 2014, 05:14:22 PM
I will be disregarding the off topic comments here. (Totally not necessary btw)
I agree with what you said about kid being taught properly, LG. As a parent, one of my main goals is to make sure my kid doesn't grow up to be an .rearexit.. But as someone who has studied youth psychology, I know that every adolescent goes through a phase of self importance, and to be honest, that is what I read this OP as. It doesn't make the way he titled his thread less offensive, but to me, this is a kid being a kid, boasting for recognition, and berating him for it isn't helpful. Lg was actually spot on in her first post "maybe you should have helped..." But it went on from there to several people just making him feel bad when he didn't even tell us how he handled it afterwards. Meh, I just saw it from a different perspective that's all.
Thank you Moneekahh. That was really all I meant. And there were definitely times, back when I started playing this game, that I wish people had helped me out.
In any way, some of you were correct. I did try and help. Can anyone give me a very cheap yet effective Kumano Decklist as well as a proper Izzet? I plan to give these to the guys I beat. I also told them to practice so that they wont get whupped again.
Quote from: IntoFire on January 28, 2014, 05:21:42 PM
In any way, some of you were correct. I did try and help. Can anyone give me a very cheap yet effective Kumano Decklist as well as a proper Izzet? I plan to give these to the guys I beat. I also told them to practice so that they wont get whupped again.
A quick Google Search gave me this; hope it helps! :)
4 {Akki Avalanchers}
3 {Akki Rockspeaker}
3 {Battle-Mad Ronin}
2 {Brothers Yamazaki}
3 {Ronin Houndmaster}
2 {Akki Coalflinger}
3 {Frostwielder}
2 {Kumano's Pupils}
1 {Kumano, Master Yamabushi}
2 {Crushing Pain}
1 {Sideswipe}
3 {Yamabushi's Flame}
2 {Hanabi Blast}
2 {Blind with Anger}
2 {No-Dachi}
1 {Kusari-Gama}
24 {Mountain}
I would try maybe a scry/weird mix for an izzet style deck that won't cost much and will be easy to get. Haven't looked to see any builds but the idea does sound fun.
Quote from: Walkhard on January 28, 2014, 05:34:00 PM
I would try maybe a scry/weird mix for an izzet style deck that won't cost much and will be easy to get. Haven't looked to see any builds but the idea does sound fun.
Then this is for you!: http://www.mtgvault.com/planesrasta/decks/flamespeaker-smackdept/
Quote from: LadyGrixis on January 28, 2014, 05:44:38 PM
Quote from: Walkhard on January 28, 2014, 05:34:00 PM
I would try maybe a scry/weird mix for an izzet style deck that won't cost much and will be easy to get. Haven't looked to see any builds but the idea does sound fun.
Then this is for you!: http://www.mtgvault.com/planesrasta/decks/flamespeaker-smackdept/
Wow, that {Prognostic Sphinx}/ {Flamespeaker Adept} idea is down right scary. That can get out of hand quick. Maybe there is a use for the sphinx.
{Aqueous Form} on {Flamespeaker Adept} is pretty crazy, too.
There's also the old Izzet Blitz deck as an option. {Nivix Cyclops} with {Artful Dodge} and pump instants like {Dynacharge}. Surprise!
Quote from: Gorzo on January 28, 2014, 05:55:13 PM
{Aqueous Form} on {Flamespeaker Adept} is pretty crazy, too.
There's also the old Izzet Blitz deck as an option. {Nivix Cyclops} with {Artful Dodge} and pump instants like {Dynacharge}. Surprise!
May as well throw in a {Dragonshift} as a finishing move just in the event they have all fliers or even better, no fliers.