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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Bilygote on November 27, 2013, 12:02:09 PM

Title: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: Bilygote on November 27, 2013, 12:02:09 PM
Situation: player A attacks with 1 {Kessig Recluse}

Player B: blocks with {Carapace Forger} + {Wall of Tanglecord} + {Oran-Rief Recluse}

In response Player A plays the bloodrush ability of {Skarrg Goliath}

How does this play out?

Thanks
Title: Re: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: Mattao19 on November 27, 2013, 12:05:10 PM
your creature gets +9/+9 and trample, so since it has deathtouch you just need to deal 1 damage to a creature to destroy it, so in this case you deal 1 damage to each of the 3 opponents creatures, and the rest tramples over!! :P

Trample + Deathtouch is an awesome combo!!
Title: Re: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: Mattao19 on November 27, 2013, 12:06:35 PM
so Kessig Recluse becomes an 11/12 so it deals 1 damage to each of their creatures then 8 goes through to hit the player!
Title: Re: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: Bilygote on November 27, 2013, 12:13:33 PM
That is what I thought thanks
Title: Re: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: Bilygote on November 27, 2013, 12:20:32 PM
Follow up: how would that work if he had blocked with {Cho-Manno, Revolutionary}
Title: Re: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: Mattao19 on November 27, 2013, 12:25:48 PM
Quote from: Bilygote on November 27, 2013, 12:20:32 PM
Follow up: how would that work if he had blocked with {Cho-Manno, Revolutionary}

Only 2 damage would be needed to destroy him so the rest would trample over him because Trample doesn't require the creature to die it just requires the lethal amount to be dealt same with {Tajic, Blade of the Legion} 2 damage dealt rest trampled over
Title: Re: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: Bilygote on November 27, 2013, 12:41:49 PM
702.2b Any nonzero amount of combat damage assigned to a creature by a source with deathtouch is considered to be lethal damage, regardless of that creature's toughness. See rules 510.1c-d.

So should it only take 1, all combat damage is simultaneous, except for 1st strike & double strike
Title: Re: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: Mattao19 on November 27, 2013, 12:45:46 PM
Hmm now I'm second guessing myself. Wait for Keyoto Gorzo or Kaleo to answer lol sorry :(
Title: Re: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: Bilygote on November 27, 2013, 12:50:15 PM
LOL, I know it can be perplexing, I've been playing since 4th ed
Title: Re: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: Mattao19 on November 27, 2013, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: Bilygote on November 27, 2013, 12:50:15 PM
LOL, I know it can be perplexing, I've been playing since 4th ed

I started in Gatecrash but I'm F****** hooked lol
Title: Re: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: Bilygote on November 27, 2013, 12:59:23 PM
That is how i interpret the rules
Title: Re: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: Kaleo42 on November 27, 2013, 01:52:20 PM
Quote from: Taysby on November 27, 2013, 12:54:44 PM
You assign the one deathtouch damage to that dude and the rest to the player.  The damage to the creature gets prevented, so it doesn't die, and the player takes he large amount of damage.
This
Title: Re: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on November 27, 2013, 05:58:29 PM
I concur.
Title: Re: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: xStrayKnightx on November 28, 2013, 06:16:53 AM
Creatures with a colour protection (such as {Karmic Guide}, which has protection from black) can't block creatures of that colour, and can't be targets of spells or abilities that colour.
Title: Re: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: Sardok on November 28, 2013, 06:51:24 AM
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on November 28, 2013, 06:16:53 AM
Creatures with a colour protection (such as {Karmic Guide}, which has protection from black) can't block creatures of that colour, and can't be targets of spells or abilities that colour.

{Karmic Guide} can block black creatures; it just cannot be blocked by black creatures.
Title: Re: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: xStrayKnightx on November 28, 2013, 09:16:27 AM
Oh, really? I thought protection doubled as prevention in every possible circumstance. Guess not.
Title: Re: Trample Deathtouch
Post by: griffin131 on November 28, 2013, 01:20:55 PM
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on November 28, 2013, 09:16:27 AM
Oh, really? I thought protection doubled as prevention in every possible circumstance. Guess not.
Protection gives you prevention of DEBT.
Damage
Enchanted/equipped
Blocking
Targeting

If you have Protection you can block for days and take no damage from whatever you're protected against.