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Title: Threads of disloyality
Post by: rarehuntertay on October 05, 2013, 10:58:00 PM
My opponent has an  {Insectile Aberration} in play. I play  {Threads of Disloyalty}. Would I be able to attack with the  {Insectile Aberration}?
Title: Re: Threads of disloyality
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 05, 2013, 11:11:39 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 05, 2013, 10:58:00 PM
My opponent has an  {Insectile Aberration} in play. I play  {Threads of Disloyalty}. Would I be able to attack with the  {Insectile Aberration}?
Yes, its mana converted mana cost is 0. Although, the card is affected by summoning sickness still.
Title: Re: Threads of disloyality
Post by: Gorzo on October 05, 2013, 11:23:24 PM
Not on that turn, no. It will be be summoning sick if it has not been under your control at the beginning of the turn (untap step). This does include mind control effects, and is why {act of treason} type spells and effects always give haste.

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Title: Re: Threads of disloyality
Post by: Mattao19 on October 05, 2013, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 05, 2013, 11:11:39 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 05, 2013, 10:58:00 PM
My opponent has an  {Insectile Aberration} in play. I play  {Threads of Disloyalty}. Would I be able to attack with the  {Insectile Aberration}?
Yes, its mana converted mana cost is 0

It's CMC is 0? It's not {Delver of Secrets} CMC?
Title: Re: Threads of disloyality
Post by: Gorzo on October 05, 2013, 11:29:34 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 05, 2013, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 05, 2013, 11:11:39 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 05, 2013, 10:58:00 PM
My opponent has an  {Insectile Aberration} in play. I play  {Threads of Disloyalty}. Would I be able to attack with the  {Insectile Aberration}?
Yes, its mana converted mana cost is 0

It's CMC is 0? It's not {Delver of Secrets} CMC?

Correct, the flipped side of Transformed flip cards have no mana card, and therefor are considered a 0 CMC. You can blow any of them up with a 0-counter {ratchet bomb}, even {Garruk,, Veil Cursed}
Title: Re: Threads of disloyality
Post by: Mattao19 on October 05, 2013, 11:34:16 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on October 05, 2013, 11:29:34 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 05, 2013, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 05, 2013, 11:11:39 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 05, 2013, 10:58:00 PM
My opponent has an  {Insectile Aberration} in play. I play  {Threads of Disloyalty}. Would I be able to attack with the  {Insectile Aberration}?
Yes, its mana converted mana cost is 0

It's CMC is 0? It's not {Delver of Secrets} CMC?

Correct, the flipped side of Transformed flip cards have no mana card, and therefor are considered a 0 CMC. You can blow any of them up with a 0-counter {ratchet bomb}, even {Garruk,, Veil Cursed}

Ok cool also I don't get the Garruk part but other than that kewlio :D
Title: Re: Threads of disloyality
Post by: Steerpike on October 05, 2013, 11:38:49 PM
The flipped garruk has no cmc as well