{Aurelia the Warleader} + {Desecration Demon}
This is nasty! Going to have to use it
My favorite synergy/combo in standard right now is {obzedat, ghost council} and {whip of erebos}
Quote from: Legends784 on September 29, 2013, 11:05:49 AM
My favorite synergy/combo in standard right now is {obzedat, ghost council} and {whip of erebos}
I'm using that in my stardrd deck atm! I do get some hate for it but it's so fun
Quote from: Legends784 on September 29, 2013, 11:05:49 AM
My favorite synergy/combo in standard right now is {obzedat, ghost council} and {whip of erebos}
Doesn't work. Whip's effect takes precedent over Obzedat's
It's does as both abilities activate at the same time you choose stack order! if you put the {whip of Erebos}ability on the stack first, then put {Obzedat, ghost council}'s second ability on the stack on top! The {Obzedat, ghost council} exiles itself, the whip tries to excite it but it is already exiled so the whip does nothing! And in your next upkeep {Obzedat, ghost council} comes back as it exiled itself!
Quote from: DylanW18 on September 29, 2013, 12:02:32 AM
{Aurelia the Warleader} + {Desecration Demon}
I don't get it
Desecration Demon will trigger again with the new combat phase, making them sac 2 a turn, or take 6+ then sac a creature, or take 12
Well, if you've attacked with the demon, they either sac and tap it and give it a counter or let it attack. Either way, it would still be tapped during the 2nd combat since Aurelia doesn't untap things after the first combat.
So this really only works if you have sone other way of untapping the demon
Quote from: Steerpike on September 30, 2013, 04:40:44 AM
Well, if you've attacked with the demon, they either sac and tap it and give it a counter or let it attack. Either way, it would still be tapped during the 2nd combat since Aurelia doesn't untap things after the first combat.
So this really only works if you have sone other way of untapping the demon
Aurelia colearlo saya untap all creatifes you control.
Quote from: Teysa karlov on September 29, 2013, 05:48:16 PM
It's does as both abilities activate at the same time you choose stack order! if you put the {whip of Erebos}ability on the stack first, then put {Obzedat, ghost council}'s second ability on the stack on top! The {Obzedat, ghost council} exiles itself, the whip tries to excite it but it is already exiled so the whip does nothing! And in your next upkeep {Obzedat, ghost council} comes back as it exiled itself!
Whit so can you do the same with {Ætherling}?
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on September 30, 2013, 07:20:13 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on September 29, 2013, 05:48:16 PM
It's does as both abilities activate at the same time you choose stack order! if you put the {whip of Erebos}ability on the stack first, then put {Obzedat, ghost council}'s second ability on the stack on top! The {Obzedat, ghost council} exiles itself, the whip tries to excite it but it is already exiled so the whip does nothing! And in your next upkeep {Obzedat, ghost council} comes back as it exiled itself!
Whit so can you do the same with {Ætherling}?
oh, god...ouch
Quote from: Iandtormentor on September 30, 2013, 07:41:57 AM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on September 30, 2013, 07:20:13 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on September 29, 2013, 05:48:16 PM
It's does as both abilities activate at the same time you choose stack order! if you put the {whip of Erebos}ability on the stack first, then put {Obzedat, ghost council}'s second ability on the stack on top! The {Obzedat, ghost council} exiles itself, the whip tries to excite it but it is already exiled so the whip does nothing! And in your next upkeep {Obzedat, ghost council} comes back as it exiled itself!
Whit so can you do the same with {Ætherling}?
oh, god...ouch
I guess so, but I wish it didn't! {Ætherling} is evil, and not in a good way!
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on September 30, 2013, 07:18:42 AM
Quote from: Steerpike on September 30, 2013, 04:40:44 AM
Well, if you've attacked with the demon, they either sac and tap it and give it a counter or let it attack. Either way, it would still be tapped during the 2nd combat since Aurelia doesn't untap things after the first combat.
So this really only works if you have sone other way of untapping the demon
Aurelia colearlo saya untap all creatifes you control.
It only says for the first combat though.
Because tapping happens after attackers are declared (meaning after Aurelia untaps them), does that not mean that once the attack is checked as legal, all attacking creatures during the first combat will be tapped during the second combat?
Or is Aurelia worded where the the untapping occurs after the tap-from-attacking part?
Quote from: Teysa karlov on September 30, 2013, 08:41:07 AM
Quote from: Iandtormentor on September 30, 2013, 07:41:57 AM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on September 30, 2013, 07:20:13 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on September 29, 2013, 05:48:16 PM
It's does as both abilities activate at the same time you choose stack order! if you put the {whip of Erebos}ability on the stack first, then put {Obzedat, ghost council}'s second ability on the stack on top! The {Obzedat, ghost council} exiles itself, the whip tries to excite it but it is already exiled so the whip does nothing! And in your next upkeep {Obzedat, ghost council} comes back as it exiled itself!
Whit so can you do the same with {Ætherling}?
oh, god...ouch
I guess so, but I wish it didn't! {Ætherling} is evil, and not in a good way!
Dayum! Looks like I'm going esper reanimator for states!
Quote from: Steerpike on September 30, 2013, 12:21:10 PM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on September 30, 2013, 07:18:42 AM
Quote from: Steerpike on September 30, 2013, 04:40:44 AM
Well, if you've attacked with the demon, they either sac and tap it and give it a counter or let it attack. Either way, it would still be tapped during the 2nd combat since Aurelia doesn't untap things after the first combat.
So this really only works if you have sone other way of untapping the demon
Aurelia colearlo saya untap all creatifes you control.
It only says for the first combat though.
Because tapping happens after attackers are declared (meaning after Aurelia untaps them), does that not mean that once the attack is checked as legal, all attacking creatures during the first combat will be tapped during the second combat?
Or is Aurelia worded where the the untapping occurs after the tap-from-attacking part?
{Aureliathe Warleader} says "untap each creature you control, then take an additional combat phase". Every creature, no matter how they were tapped, untap