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Title: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: JustAWalrus on September 12, 2013, 01:00:11 AM
In MaRos drive to work podcast he talked about futuresight and the card that equips to lands. It was hinted that maybe "heuy" the set after theros having something to do with lands or equiptments. what do you guys think? Maybe a return to Zendikar?
Title: Re: Heuy equiptments for lands?
Post by: JustAWalrus on September 12, 2013, 01:02:22 AM
{darksteel garrison}
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: JustAWalrus on September 12, 2013, 07:16:03 PM
MaRo was going to codename the original ravnica block "huey" "duey" and "louie" but now thats the codename for the block after theros. Huey Duey and Louie are the names of the triplets in the donald duck christmas movie thing.
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 12, 2013, 08:25:06 PM
I have heard rumors about a Return to Zendikar after Theros. I for one would love that! Hopefully they bring back full art lands.
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: JustAWalrus on September 13, 2013, 12:25:43 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 12, 2013, 08:25:06 PM
I have heard rumors about a Return to Zendikar after Theros. I for one would love that! Hopefully they bring back full art lands.

It would be the perfect time to bring back fetches and get them less expensive
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Thetrufflehunter on September 13, 2013, 12:46:56 AM
I heard either zendikar or Lorwyn from birdbrain.
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: DylanW18 on September 13, 2013, 12:55:43 AM
New {Thoughtseize} matches with Lorwyn
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Mlerner12 on September 13, 2013, 08:12:14 AM
I for one wantKamigawa :P nope. Seriously, I want Zendikar or Mirrodin, though Mirrodin isn't likely :P
Title: Re: Heuy equiptments for lands?
Post by: Birdbrain on September 13, 2013, 08:45:28 AM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on September 12, 2013, 01:02:22 AM
{darksteel garrison}
i would think that the words "dark steel" would point towards Mirridon

Edit: which would be really cool if it did. An enchantment block right next to a artifact block
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Birdbrain on September 13, 2013, 08:55:51 AM
Yey! We're going to get to see the mirridons take back there home world!
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: JustAWalrus on September 13, 2013, 12:03:47 PM
It might not be in huey block but maybe later because we cant return to mirrordin that fast
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 13, 2013, 12:22:20 PM
I am still hoping for a return to Kamigawa. Hopefully this time they won't make every rare a legendary.
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Dudecore on September 13, 2013, 03:07:37 PM
Probably a return to Lorwyn. Slight continuation of enchantments, focusing on Tribal. I don't think it will be another top down set like Kawigama.

If not, were going to Return to Alara with the Wedge colors this time (everyone wants that Wedge block)
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Birdbrain on September 13, 2013, 03:27:57 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 13, 2013, 03:07:37 PM
Probably a return to Lorwyn. Slight continuation of enchantments, focusing on Tribal. I don't think it will be another top down set like Kawigama.

If not, were going to Return to Alara with the Wedge colors this time (everyone wants that Wedge block)
i doubt there going to do multicolor so close to a multi-color, but I could be wrong. I often am
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: imthelolrus on September 13, 2013, 03:43:41 PM
Im not a betting man but I'd put money on Zendikar, possibly Lorwyn. Zendikar would make sense because it wasn't a multicolor block and fetches are expensive
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: JustAWalrus on September 13, 2013, 04:28:24 PM
Zendikar or lorwyn
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Birdbrain on September 13, 2013, 04:45:42 PM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on September 13, 2013, 04:28:24 PM
Zendikar or lorwyn
or zorkidwyn! :P
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Mlerner12 on September 13, 2013, 04:46:22 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 13, 2013, 04:45:42 PM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on September 13, 2013, 04:28:24 PM
Zendikar or lorwyn
or zorkidwyn! :P

Lorikar?
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Cipher89 on September 13, 2013, 04:48:27 PM
Onslaught maybe?
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Spikepit on September 13, 2013, 06:40:57 PM
I know I'm in the minority but I have been frothing for a return to Kamigawa for years! More Rats! More Snakes! MoreDragons in EVERY colour! Cool equips! MOONFOLK!!!

*cough cough* {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage} *cough*
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Birdbrain on September 13, 2013, 06:44:45 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on September 13, 2013, 06:40:57 PM
I know I'm in the minority but I have been frothing for a return to Kamigawa for years! More Rats! More Snakes! MoreDragons in EVERY colour! Cool equips! MOONFOLK!!!

*cough cough* {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage} *cough*
ive been making noise on here about a return to kamigawa. I think the initial reaction from players would inevitably be groaning. At least the ones that were playing at that time. Then they would probably be in awe because of the awesome job they did on the set learning from last time...of course, it was so nerfy because of Mirridon
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Dudecore on September 13, 2013, 08:01:46 PM
Kawigama stunk folks. Mirrodin was broken, Kawigama was lifeless. They'd have to create a new plane and then do top down Japanese mythology on it - a Return to Kawigama would be a death sentence for the years Magic sales.
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Birdbrain on September 13, 2013, 08:04:19 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 13, 2013, 08:01:46 PM
Kawigama stunk folks. Mirrodin was broken, Kawigama was lifeless. They'd have to create a new plane and then do top down Japanese mythology on it - a Return to Kawigama would be a death sentence for the years Magic sales.
Kamigawa was lifeless because Mirridon was broken
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Dudecore on September 13, 2013, 08:11:25 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 13, 2013, 08:04:19 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 13, 2013, 08:01:46 PM
Kawigama stunk folks. Mirrodin was broken, Kawigama was lifeless. They'd have to create a new plane and then do top down Japanese mythology on it - a Return to Kawigama would be a death sentence for the years Magic sales.
Kamigawa was lifeless because Mirridon was broken

I wouldn't say so entirely. All legendary creatures, splice onto arcane (arcane cards only existed within the block), and too much boring flavor. It just wasnt interesting as well as being underpowered.

They tried horror again on Innistrad, Homelands was the first horror plane and it wasnt top down: it's also the worst set ever. Japanese mythology could work - but I don't think Kawigama is getting it done.
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Birdbrain on September 13, 2013, 08:42:46 PM
In terms of Japanese mythology, I'd love to see that tortoise with an island on its back done
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Spikepit on September 14, 2013, 01:33:20 AM
It's not enough to base an entire argument on, but I'm not sure they would have made {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage} without wanting to entice us to the fact...

Even if it was to test the waters of people's opinion on returning.
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: JustAWalrus on September 14, 2013, 01:10:50 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on September 14, 2013, 01:33:20 AM
It's not enough to base an entire argument on, but I'm not sure they would have made {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage} without wanting to entice us to the fact...

Even if it was to test the waters of people's opinion on returning.

Were not going to have two topdown sets in a row. We will most likely return to zendikar because it would be the perfect time to bring back fetch lands
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: JustAWalrus on September 14, 2013, 01:33:40 PM
Lots of artifacts in theros... Could it mean something about the next block?
Title: Re: Set After Theros
Post by: Birdbrain on September 14, 2013, 02:23:48 PM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on September 14, 2013, 01:33:40 PM
Lots of artifacts in theros... Could it mean something about the next block?
if {darksteel garrison} is in the next block, I would say Mirridon. Because the only world the world darksteel is used in is Mirridon
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 14, 2013, 02:36:55 PM
Kamigawa has been talked about a lot on Blogatog and right now it sounds like we will only see a Return to Kamigawa if it were being destroyed/taken over by the Phyrexians, the Eldrazi or Nicol Bolas. Kamigawa was a great and flavorful set, with some work and a little less legendaries, we might see a Return to Kamigawa in the near future. That being said, a Return to Kamigawa is unlikely within the few years because they would only make it if they were 100% sure that it would work AMAZINGLY, two top-down sets so close probably won't happen and they will want to try almost everything else out first.

Most likely is a return to Zendikar or a Return to Llorywn at this point. Mirrodin was just a few years ago which would make Magic look like they are running out of ideas. Llorywn was very tribal which is always fun and Zendikar was land matters which is another fan favorite. I personally would LOVE a Return to any of the three.
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Birdbrain on September 15, 2013, 06:38:59 PM
Maybe a return to Mirridon could be saying
"Hey, we're saving something really cool for the next block and are exploring new design space so we can implement possible ideas"
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: JustAWalrus on September 15, 2013, 11:25:05 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 15, 2013, 06:38:59 PM
Maybe a return to Mirridon could be saying
"Hey, we're saving something really cool for the next block and are exploring new design space so we can implement possible ideas"

I think the number of aftifacts in theros is kinda suspicios... But it would also be weird to return to mirrordin considering that it was so recent. Most returning sets are about 7 blocks apart not 4
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Gorzo on September 16, 2013, 06:01:41 AM
It does seem far too soon for a return to Mirrodin. But then again, what was the block immediately before the most recent visit to Mirrodin? Zendikar. And no one seems to think it's too early for that.

What plane did Onslaught take place on? It was way before I started playing. Maybe we'll go back there, and get the onslaught fetch lands reprinted for modern. (Unless it was on Dominaria, in which case ignore this random thought. It may have been way before my time, but I have heard from lgs veterans that a return there is very unlikely, and that the plane got really screwed up by time spiral and stuff)
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Birdbrain on September 16, 2013, 08:10:48 AM
We could return to Dominiria if it was dominirias past
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Birdbrain on September 16, 2013, 09:35:25 AM
The time was skewed, so in order to compensate the whole plane could have reverted back to how it was in the past, and then have a different timeline going forward
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: JustAWalrus on September 16, 2013, 10:42:17 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on September 16, 2013, 06:01:41 AM
It does seem far too soon for a return to Mirrodin. But then again, what was the block immediately before the most recent visit to Mirrodin? Zendikar. And no one seems to think it's too early for that.

What plane did Onslaught take place on? It was way before I started playing. Maybe we'll go back there, and get the onslaught fetch lands reprinted for modern. (Unless it was on Dominaria, in which case ignore this random thought. It may have been way before my time, but I have heard from lgs veterans that a return there is very unlikely, and that the plane got really screwed up by time spiral and stuff)

R&d wont bring onslought fetch lands to modern that would be broken zendikar is more likely because its 5 sets away from huey which is more likely than 4
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: rarehuntertay on September 16, 2013, 11:01:10 AM
Onslaught was domaria. I wouldn't mind a return to Rabiah (that was Arabian Nights). Or, with these gods spoiled, maybe we might see a Yawgmoth god card finally, since he wasn't a true planeswalker...
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Birdbrain on September 16, 2013, 11:20:02 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 16, 2013, 11:01:10 AM
Onslaught was domaria. I wouldn't mind a return to Rabiah (that was Arabian Nights). Or, with these gods spoiled, maybe we might see a Yawgmoth god card finally, since he wasn't a true planeswalker...
Yawgmoth was a planeswalker? And why was there one good phrexian?
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: rarehuntertay on September 16, 2013, 11:32:09 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 16, 2013, 11:20:02 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 16, 2013, 11:01:10 AM
Onslaught was domaria. I wouldn't mind a return to Rabiah (that was Arabian Nights). Or, with these gods spoiled, maybe we might see a Yawgmoth god card finally, since he wasn't a true planeswalker...
Yawgmoth was a planeswalker? And why was there one good phrexian?

Yawgmoth got sucked into phyrexia's home plane somehow, and there he became a god to the phyrexian. He discovered a way to travel from phyrexia to dominaria, but only that. Therefore, he wasn't a true planeswalker. And Yawgmoth wasn't good, he was like evil incarnate...
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Birdbrain on September 16, 2013, 11:37:00 AM
No. I'm talking about the phrexian who betrayed the phrexians and who died, an who's heart got put into karn who leaked oil on Mirridon causing the phrexians to make a comeback there
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Kagain123 on September 16, 2013, 11:44:32 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 16, 2013, 11:37:00 AM
No. I'm talking about the phrexian who betrayed the phrexians and who died, an who's heart got put into karn who leaked oil on Mirridon causing the phrexians to make a comeback there

Xantcha
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Birdbrain on September 16, 2013, 11:54:36 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on September 16, 2013, 11:50:19 AM
Xantcha wasn't really good, she merely didn't fit into the phyrexian scheme anymore and urza shaped her from there. Unfortunately she died along with Ratepe at the hands of Gix (pre-uber-demon form) and in so doing snapped urza from his insanity that allowed him to truly begin the war against phyrexian that culminated in the apocalypse on dominaria.

Yawgmoth would be a nasty card no matter how oh built him but he was defeated by the legacy weapon (converted weatherlight)
the events of time spiral, planer chaos, and future sight could have brought him back or made a clone or something
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: rarehuntertay on September 16, 2013, 11:56:35 AM
It would be interesting if he/it survived the blast and got transported to Theros/Nyx... And was Erobus' boss...
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Birdbrain on September 16, 2013, 12:23:00 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on September 16, 2013, 11:55:28 AM
Where can I find the story lines now that they do not publish novels anymore?
they still do make novels. Or e-books if you will. One of them is called "the secretist" or something like that. I forget the other two names in that block though
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Avnger345 on September 16, 2013, 07:18:30 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on September 16, 2013, 04:11:24 PM
Are those available on an ipad?

Just download the kindle app and buy them on amazon
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: JustAWalrus on September 17, 2013, 01:25:23 AM
Why mod no put this up there ^ :(
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Spikepit on September 17, 2013, 04:42:25 AM
Another mod may still, but I believe the stickies area is already pretty cluttered (especially now both THE and BOG are up simultaneously) and speculating on Huey is SUPER speculative and premature for it to remain a sticky, considering it'll be there for a year if we sticky it. But the other dudes may disagree.
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Gorzo on September 17, 2013, 06:30:57 AM
What Spikepit said. The set hasn't even been named yet, so we won't clutter up the stickies until we at least know the official name of the set ;)
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: JustAWalrus on September 17, 2013, 11:15:20 AM
Ok
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Birdbrain on September 20, 2013, 05:21:00 PM
I think Moneeka and Imthelolrus are right. The next block is zenkidar. It can't be Lorwyn because that had a multicolor mini theme. And there heading in the other direction right now
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: JustAWalrus on September 20, 2013, 09:45:02 PM
Zendikar then lorwyn then shards of alara?
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Birdbrain on September 20, 2013, 10:09:51 PM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on September 20, 2013, 09:45:02 PM
Zendikar then lorwyn then shards of alara?
that transition is possible. Although with the new, old, new, old pattern. I think Lorwyn is out
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: JustAWalrus on September 22, 2013, 07:55:23 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 20, 2013, 10:09:51 PM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on September 20, 2013, 09:45:02 PM
Zendikar then lorwyn then shards of alara?
that transition is possible. Although with the new, old, new, old pattern. I think Lorwyn is out

I guess ya
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 22, 2013, 08:07:31 PM
Quote from: Taysby on September 22, 2013, 08:06:09 PM
Will they reprint full art basics in return to zednikar?
We don't know if it will be a return to Zendikar.  It feels like we have been there too recently to go back just yet....
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Birdbrain on September 22, 2013, 08:31:39 PM
I'm still holding fast to the possibility of time spiral resetting dominirias time line and a different one emerging
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Birdbrain on October 14, 2013, 09:15:05 PM
Think standerd will ever return to earth? (We were in earth when portal three kingdoms was in print)
Title: Re: "Huey" (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)
Post by: Spikepit on October 14, 2013, 09:45:04 PM
Not sure if that's a likely, cool as it is as a concept. They have been pushing Humans a lot lately however.