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Title: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: KangaRod on September 03, 2013, 01:58:00 AM
Is there a way to turn off the feature that multiplies the price of the card by how many copies I have, or want?

I would prefer to have it always display the price for one single copy regardless of how many I have, or want when viewing my trades or needed as lists.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Piotr on September 03, 2013, 06:20:59 AM
I suspect most people prefer it the current way, it makes more sense. You can always open the detailed card view to see the price of one copy.
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Piotr on September 03, 2013, 10:27:01 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on September 03, 2013, 09:49:47 AM
I also usually trade for 1 card not the full 4 that I want, and would prefer knowing how much 1 card is rather than how much all 4 are.

In Trading, that is exactly the case.

Quote from: KangaRod on September 03, 2013, 09:49:47 AM
I actually can't think of any situation where anyone would prefer to know how much all 4 are that they want. Generally, if someone is concerned with total values I think they would be concerned with the total - total price.

For example, in Trade Binder, which is a report which shows all Magic Binders set to Trade Binder type, I would prefer all the individual rows add up to the bottom total.

Quote from: KangaRod on September 03, 2013, 09:49:47 AM
So, I take it by your response then that the answer to my question is no.

The answer to your question is undefined. You know I don't like when people put words in my mouth ;)
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Piotr on September 03, 2013, 03:34:45 PM
Quote from: KangaRod on September 03, 2013, 03:18:53 PM
Ok, but why would you prefer that they add up, just for the sake of continuity, even though in actual practical applications (as I stated) it is usually more useful to have it the other way?

I want to know what all my Jaces are worth, not just one. I do not like doing maths, I prefer to tell computers to calculate for me. If I want to know what the price of one Jace is, I tap it and it shows.

Quote from: KangaRod on September 03, 2013, 03:18:53 PM
What is the answer to my question?

It is unknown at this time. I tend to change my views when logically convinced. I share this rare treat with Mr Spock.
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Piotr on September 03, 2013, 06:53:21 PM
Quote from: KangaRod on September 03, 2013, 05:13:32 PM
Can I or can I not currently change it?

Nope. Fancy a switch?
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Imink on September 03, 2013, 09:45:25 PM
I'd like to see just the price of one card to I think this seems more practical. In my eyes it's easier to multiply by 4 than to divide.
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Piotr on September 04, 2013, 06:23:31 AM
Quote from: Imink on September 03, 2013, 09:45:25 PM
I'd like to see just the price of one card to I think this seems more practical. In my eyes it's easier to multiply by 4 than to divide.

You just repeated argument which was used in this thread already, so let me repeat too: in my eyes it is easier to tap than to multiply.
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Piotr on September 05, 2013, 04:28:14 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on September 04, 2013, 09:11:03 PM
Yes, the ability to switch would be a welcome adjustment. Thank you.

Where? Do not thank me, I never said its on my TODO.
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Piotr on September 05, 2013, 09:48:52 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on September 05, 2013, 08:51:36 AM
I thought you just asked me if I would like a switch, implying that you would take it into consideration.

Taking into consideration is not the same as putting it on my TODO list. Where do you envision said switch and what would be its label?
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: swallowtail on September 11, 2013, 06:06:19 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on September 05, 2013, 10:28:38 AM
I'd put it in the settings and call it 'price quantity multiplication (on/off)'

I support this request. To me, in the list I want to see the value of the card, not how much my number of them are worth. Just my view.
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: reezel on September 11, 2013, 12:10:35 PM
Can I suggest that I stumbled upon this issue last night. I wanted to just see what cards I owned were the most valuable, The multiples clogging up the price affected that for me while looking in My Precious. However, by doing it from Card Database and filtering by my Have Binders, I was able to get the data quickly. It seems like a good work around to me.
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Piotr on September 11, 2013, 12:14:40 PM
Thank you for sharing this. iMtG is a powerful beast and I do not realise what it can already do ;)
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Kaleo42 on September 14, 2013, 04:24:28 PM
I lost a trade opportunity last night because of this autototallig function in the trade binder. It took too long to look at the actual price of each card he was considering and the next round was called and we didn't have time after cause he had to go. It was inconvenient to me before, but last night I realized just how much it could be a real problem especially with the amount of trading that will be occuring this coming weekend.

To clearify i manage the team's collection which is too large and changes too often for binders to be reasonable for transport or even storage. So I keep rares in long white boxes and use the database of the collection on here as a "trade binder" for people to look through. Being able to quickly determine the price of a card that even mildly interests them is the key to making trades quickly and effiecently allowing for more trades (at least in my experience).

I would greatly prefer it default to the cards price not the group of cards price since the bottom already totals the entire collection and if I need to know the value of all my jaces I can do the math on my time since that isnt something Ill ever need to do in a rush.
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 14, 2013, 06:25:52 PM
I'd also prefer if it only showed the price of 1 copy of the card instead of all of the copies. It is easier to calculate trades if you just see the price of one, especially if they don't want to get all of the copies that you have.
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Kaleo42 on September 16, 2013, 04:54:20 AM
There apears to be a lot of support for this change. Does this warrent a swift addition to your TODO?
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Piotr on September 16, 2013, 06:51:37 AM
Magic Binders + Trading are the function for frading.

Trade Binder is just a report showing all Magic Binders of type Trade Binder. It was never ment as a tool for trading and there are no plans to change that.
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Kaleo42 on September 16, 2013, 02:25:00 PM
Very well then. I dont care how I have to access it but here is what would be most helpful. I want to see three things at the same time.

1. Price of an individual card
2. The number I have
3. A list or binder spread allowing scrolling willing showing the first two points.

The smoother we can do trading like this the easier it is to get people to use this app. I already talk up the forum, card database with TCG pricing, and ability to catalog your collection. I would love to add smooth and effecient trading for those with large amounts of cards to the list.
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Piotr on September 16, 2013, 04:04:05 PM
Is Reezel's solution not the one which does just that?
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Kaleo42 on September 16, 2013, 04:11:41 PM
It doesn't state how many you have unless you click each individual one and scroll to the bottom then back out to continue looking.
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Piotr on September 16, 2013, 05:34:43 PM
True. I understand that you have many binders set to Trade Binder?
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Kaleo42 on September 16, 2013, 05:52:32 PM
My old rares and the team's share collection. This lets me augment what I am presenting during a trade based on what they are looking for by selecting which binders show up under the filter.

Oh and promos which I don't usually trade.
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: AkiraDeLaine on September 17, 2013, 06:37:04 AM
Couldn't you just promp both, total and each on the Cards Info?
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Piotr on September 17, 2013, 07:17:50 AM
Quote from: AkiraDeLaine on September 17, 2013, 06:37:04 AM
Couldn't you just promp both, total and each on the Cards Info?

It would take too much space.
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Piotr on October 03, 2013, 08:29:43 AM
03/10/2013   added Subtotals switch in Settings
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: AkiraDeLaine on October 06, 2013, 12:54:23 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: Price for 1 copy instead of multiples
Post by: Piotr on October 22, 2013, 12:47:19 PM
Looks like I missed a couple of files during merge, boss. Sorry about that, it should make it in 4.6.1.