And you thought slivers were bad...
{silence}
Well you just broke a lot of decks...
Also why doesn't red have ANY enchantment removal?
Silence is good but I wouldn't say it's too op
{Elite Arcanist}. 'Nuff said.
Quote from: Charbelchers rage on August 13, 2013, 11:04:43 PM
And you thought slivers were bad...
{silence}
Well you just broke a lot of decks...
Also why doesn't red have ANY enchantment removal?
Red is more focused on physical removal, such as destroying artifacts. It just kind of ignores enchantments.
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 13, 2013, 11:23:55 PM
{Elite Arcanist}. 'Nuff said.
He's a great card! Pretty much a creature isochron scepter :)
Quote from: Taysby on August 14, 2013, 12:30:27 AM
I think he meant {silence} on {elite arcanist}. No more game for you. Get another {elite arcanist} with {fog} on it. Don't have a kill spell in your hand? Good game.
that only keeps them from casting spells on your turn and hitting you with combat damage on your turn, on their turn, the effects wear off.
Quote from: IceScythe on August 14, 2013, 01:33:09 AM
Quote from: Taysby on August 14, 2013, 12:30:27 AM
I think he meant {silence} on {elite arcanist}. No more game for you. Get another {elite arcanist} with {fog} on it. Don't have a kill spell in your hand? Good game.
that only keeps them from casting spells on your turn and hitting you with combat damage on your turn, on their turn, the effects wear off.
It's instant speed. You can do it on their turn.
You have to tap him to use his ability._.
Quote from: IceScythe on August 14, 2013, 11:40:09 AM
You have to tap him to use his ability._.
Yeah, you can tap at instant speed. Can't you?
Huh, at my FNM they always say you can tap at instant speed. Darn.
Quote from: IceScythe on August 14, 2013, 11:44:48 AM
-_- you can only tap him during your turn.
You can tap him as a response to things on their turn. Also instead of fog pay no heed.
112.3b (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=112.3b): Activated abilities have a cost and an effect. They are written as "[Cost]: [Effect.] [Activation instructions (if any).]" A player may activate such an ability whenever he or she has priority. Doing so puts it on the stack, where it remains until it's countered, it resolves, or it otherwise leaves the stack. See rule 602, "Activating Activated Abilities."
Or ice do you mean that if you use him on your turn you can't again because he's already tapped?
Tapping for an ability CAN be used as an instant
Quote from: IceScythe on August 14, 2013, 11:44:48 AM
-_- you can only tap him during your turn.
Also you can activate both at the end of their untap step, they last the entire turn
Well..... derp.
If this is what you consider OP then you might want to work on valuing instants and removal. A {searing spear} or {ulvenwald tracker} fixxes this issue.
Well, someone didnt like the rule. Sorry if it's the wrong one.
Quote from: EvACiDe on August 14, 2013, 01:17:11 PM
Tapping for an ability CAN be used as an instant
Otherwise, {Royal Assassin} wouldn't be the boss he is.
Quote from: Spikepit on August 14, 2013, 06:21:52 PM
Quote from: EvACiDe on August 14, 2013, 01:17:11 PM
Tapping for an ability CAN be used as an instant
Otherwise, {Royal Assassin} wouldn't be the boss he is.
Same with {avatar of woe} :)
{Pox} in multiway.
{Elitr Arcanist} 1 with {Boros Charm}, number two with {Supreme Verdict}. "Oh, you've got 27 8/8s with trample? No, you have none."
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 15, 2013, 01:48:14 PM
{Elitr Arcanist} 1 with {Boros Charm}, number two with {Supreme Verdict}. "Oh, you've got 27 8/8s with trample? No, you have none."
{elite arcanist} with ANY of the charms
Quote from: EvACiDe on August 15, 2013, 02:19:26 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 15, 2013, 01:48:14 PM
{Elitr Arcanist} 1 with {Boros Charm}, number two with {Supreme Verdict}. "Oh, you've got 27 8/8s with trample? No, you have none."
{elite arcanist} with ANY of the charms
Boros Charm for Indestructable
Quote from: Charbelchers rage on August 13, 2013, 11:04:43 PM
And you thought slivers were bad...
{silence}
Well you just broke a lot of decks...
Also why doesn't red have ANY enchantment removal?
red doesn't have enchantment removal because red cant deal with things that aren't tangible. Red understands bashing and smashing things, but it can't think things through enough to find a way to smash enchantments. Not to say red isn't smart, there are a lot of really emotional people that are brilliant people. Still, you can't break an enchantment by beating at it with a giant stick
Quote from: Birdbrain on August 15, 2013, 07:50:40 PM
Quote from: Charbelchers rage on August 13, 2013, 11:04:43 PM
And you thought slivers were bad...
{silence}
Well you just broke a lot of decks...
Also why doesn't red have ANY enchantment removal?
red doesn't have enchantment removal because red cant deal with things that aren't tangible. Red understands bashing and smashing things, but it can't think things through enough to find a way to smash enchantments. Not to say red isn't smart, there are a lot of really emotional people that are brilliant people. Still, you can't break an enchantment by beating at it with a giant stick
Chandra destroyed a spirit (not tangible) WITHOUT a stick. She used fire. It was in "the purifying fire".
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 15, 2013, 07:53:23 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on August 15, 2013, 07:50:40 PM
Quote from: Charbelchers rage on August 13, 2013, 11:04:43 PM
And you thought slivers were bad...
{silence}
Well you just broke a lot of decks...
Also why doesn't red have ANY enchantment removal?
red doesn't have enchantment removal because red cant deal with things that aren't tangible. Red understands bashing and smashing things, but it can't think things through enough to find a way to smash enchantments. Not to say red isn't smart, there are a lot of really emotional people that are brilliant people. Still, you can't break an enchantment by beating at it with a giant stick
Chandra destroyed a spirit (not tangible) WITHOUT a stick. She used fire. It was in "the purifying fire".
hmm...well, that was my understanding. And I guess a spirit is a physical manifestation of a dead persons soul?
Quote from: Birdbrain on August 15, 2013, 07:54:51 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 15, 2013, 07:53:23 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on August 15, 2013, 07:50:40 PM
Quote from: Charbelchers rage on August 13, 2013, 11:04:43 PM
And you thought slivers were bad...
{silence}
Well you just broke a lot of decks...
Also why doesn't red have ANY enchantment removal?
red doesn't have enchantment removal because red cant deal with things that aren't tangible. Red understands bashing and smashing things, but it can't think things through enough to find a way to smash enchantments. Not to say red isn't smart, there are a lot of really emotional people that are brilliant people. Still, you can't break an enchantment by beating at it with a giant stick
Chandra destroyed a spirit (not tangible) WITHOUT a stick. She used fire. It was in "the purifying fire".
hmm...well, that was my understanding. And I guess a spirit is a physical manifestation of a dead persons soul?
And you forget, I think, the "Emotuon, passion, fire" part of red. Also in that book, these people were going to war with her kingdom to capture her, but she thought it through and turned herself in. So there's ONE person. 😉 Also, most of the Izzet and Boros..
Tell all that to head designer Mark Rosewater, because I was paraphrasing him
And I suppose not thinking things through, must mean they think with there emotions and don't like to go through long thought processes.
Hmm... A small portion of red thinks things through. But not much.
Also, Boros has white, and izzet has blue. Both plan and think things through
Although Boros is able to act quickly because of its red side...quick desisions...hmmm...
Izzet strives on unpredictability, you never know what they'll do next. Creature? Burn spell? Counter spell? Claustrophobia? Blustersquall? Guttersnipe? Who knows? Izzet knows!
Quote from: IceScythe on August 15, 2013, 11:41:08 PM
Izzet strives on unpredictability, you never know what they'll do next. Creature? Burn spell? Counter spell? Claustrophobia? Blustersquall? Guttersnipe? Who knows? Izzet knows!
Or even plop down a {Ral Zarek} FTW!
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 15, 2013, 11:44:01 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on August 15, 2013, 11:41:08 PM
Izzet strives on unpredictability, you never know what they'll do next. Creature? Burn spell? Counter spell? Claustrophobia? Blustersquall? Guttersnipe? Who knows? Izzet knows!
Or even plop down a {Ral Zarek} FTW!
or {Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius} himself!
Quote from: IceScythe on August 15, 2013, 11:52:46 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 15, 2013, 11:44:01 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on August 15, 2013, 11:41:08 PM
Izzet strives on unpredictability, you never know what they'll do next. Creature? Burn spell? Counter spell? Claustrophobia? Blustersquall? Guttersnipe? Who knows? Izzet knows!
Or even plop down a {Ral Zarek} FTW!
or {Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius} himself!
Maybe {Stitch in Timr} an {Elite Arcanidt} FOR A SCOOP!!!!
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 15, 2013, 11:54:04 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on August 15, 2013, 11:52:46 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 15, 2013, 11:44:01 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on August 15, 2013, 11:41:08 PM
Izzet strives on unpredictability, you never know what they'll do next. Creature? Burn spell? Counter spell? Claustrophobia? Blustersquall? Guttersnipe? Who knows? Izzet knows!
Or even plop down a {Ral Zarek} FTW!
or {Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius} himself!
Maybe {Stitch in Timr} an {Elite Arcanidt} FOR A SCOOP!!!!
can't, has to be an instant.
Quote from: IceScythe on August 15, 2013, 11:57:48 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 15, 2013, 11:54:04 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on August 15, 2013, 11:52:46 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 15, 2013, 11:44:01 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on August 15, 2013, 11:41:08 PM
Izzet strives on unpredictability, you never know what they'll do next. Creature? Burn spell? Counter spell? Claustrophobia? Blustersquall? Guttersnipe? Who knows? Izzet knows!
Or even plop down a {Ral Zarek} FTW!
or {Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius} himself!
Maybe {Stitch in Timr} an {Elite Arcanidt} FOR A SCOOP!!!!
can't, has to be an instant.
Aww.