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Magic (The Gathering) => Combo Corner => Topic started by: Blackyzilla on March 05, 2012, 10:43:54 PM

Title: Doomed Vat Token Combo
Post by: Blackyzilla on March 05, 2012, 10:43:54 PM
{Mimic Vat} + {Doomed Traveler}= Token madness
Title: Re: Doomed Vat Token Combo
Post by: Rass on March 05, 2012, 10:48:18 PM
Expensive for a 1/1
Title: Re: Doomed Vat Token Combo
Post by: ChrisRodriguez on March 05, 2012, 10:48:55 PM
Quote from: Blackyzilla on March 05, 2012, 10:43:54 PM
{Mimic Vat} + {Doomed Traveler}= Token madness
That's if the {Doomed Traveler} dies, because {mimic vat} exiles the token at the end of turn
Title: Re: Doomed Vat Token Combo
Post by: Sagemaster on March 05, 2012, 10:53:50 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on March 05, 2012, 10:48:55 PM
Quote from: Blackyzilla on March 05, 2012, 10:43:54 PM
{Mimic Vat} + {Doomed Traveler}= Token madness
That's if the {Doomed Traveler} dies, because {mimic vat} exiles the token at the end of turn

Add {sundial of the infinite} and you're good :D
Title: Re: Doomed Vat Token Combo
Post by: Coffee Vampire on March 05, 2012, 11:01:09 PM
Sundial skips your end step, and since that is when you exile the tokens, you keep them until your next end step. If you don't want them to be exiled, you will have to keep tapping the sundial every turn.
Title: Re: Doomed Vat Token Combo
Post by: Sagemaster on March 05, 2012, 11:10:47 PM
Oh then use doomed as a chump blocker and keep the spirit :D
Title: Re: Doomed Vat Token Combo
Post by: BlackJester on March 05, 2012, 11:32:05 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on March 05, 2012, 11:01:09 PM
Sundial skips your end step, and since that is when you exile the tokens, you keep them until your next end step. If you don't want them to be exiled, you will have to keep tapping the sundial every turn.
You wait for the trigger to go on the stack at the end step.  Then end the turn. The trigger will only happen once.
Title: Re: Doomed Vat Token Combo
Post by: Coffee Vampire on March 05, 2012, 11:51:08 PM
It says "until the next end step" though...doesn't that mean that even if you skip your end step, you will still have to exile it on the next one?
Title: Re: Doomed Vat Token Combo
Post by: BlackJester on March 06, 2012, 01:05:29 AM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on March 05, 2012, 11:51:08 PM
It says "until the next end step" though...doesn't that mean that even if you skip your end step, you will still have to exile it on the next one?
The ability sets up a delayed trigger that waits until the end of turn. However, if you let the trigger get put on the stack, THEN end the turn, it will be removed and never come back.
Title: Re: Doomed Vat Token Combo
Post by: Coffee Vampire on March 06, 2012, 01:48:23 AM
Ah, okay. Neat-o. :)