For the twentieth birthday of Magic: The Gathering, we've got a special twenty-card From the Vault! Draw on the power of twenty influential Magic cards to give your decks an edge. Each was a key part of a premier tournament-winning deck from each of the past twenty years. Now you can learn their secrets, harness their strengths, and use them to defeat your enemies!
⚫Twenty premium foil cards, including some with new art.
⚫An exclusive Spindown life counter.
⚫A collector's guide.
⚫Each card has been printed using a foil process unique to the From the Vault series.
The twenty cards are all printed in the current card frame. For some, it is for the first time.
From the Vault: Twenty will be available worldwide in English only, and will have an extremely limited print run.
⚫All cards are black bordered and tournament legal. This means that these cards are legal for use in any tournaments where the original printings are still legal.
I doubt we'll see any of the power-9 from alpha.
Quote from: Birdbrain on July 12, 2013, 03:53:30 PM
I doubt we'll see any of the power-9 from alpha.
Highly doubtful. All of the P9 is on Watsy's reserved list, I believe.
Edit: *WotC's. Watsy's sounds cool, though, so it stays!
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on July 12, 2013, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on July 12, 2013, 03:53:30 PM
I doubt we'll see any of the power-9 from alpha.
Highly doubtful. All of the P9 is on Watsy's reserved list, I believe.
Edit: *WotC's. Watsy's sounds cool, though, so it stays!
so its highly doubtful its doubtful we'll see them? Lol. You must be in a hurry when you check on here
Quote from: Birdbrain on July 12, 2013, 04:05:02 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on July 12, 2013, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on July 12, 2013, 03:53:30 PM
I doubt we'll see any of the power-9 from alpha.
Highly doubtful. All of the P9 is on Watsy's reserved list, I believe.
Edit: *WotC's. Watsy's sounds cool, though, so it stays!
so its highly doubtful its doubtful we'll see them? Lol. You must be in a hurry when you check on here
No. I was agreeing with you.
"I doubt we'll see any of the P9."
"Yeah it's highly doubtful we'll see them."
Get it?
Guess I'm the one who should read things better. Lol
I belive the spoiled art is {force of will} or {thlughtseize}
Edit: Don't forget curly brackets.
I thought that the art was for mom (aka {Mother of Runes})
{Force of Will} is possible
EDIT: {Candleabra of Tawnos} jumps out at me for some reason as well.
There's a possibility this could breathe new life into legacy?
Sadly, I don't think so since it will be produced in such a limited supply.
Quote from: #noided on July 12, 2013, 06:17:38 PM
EDIT: {Candleabra of Tawnos} jumps out at me for some reason as well.
Reserved list :(
Anyone know where I can get a set reasonably? Any stores allow for preorder? I would love if one of my trusted peers on here has a beed on one. PM if you can help me out!
I hope to see some ante cards
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on July 12, 2013, 06:38:16 PM
Quote from: #noided on July 12, 2013, 06:17:38 PM
EDIT: {Candleabra of Tawnos} jumps out at me for some reason as well.
Reserved list :(
Also they will not print a $300 card in a FTV set...
So far I'm thinking {Force of Will} and Mom, based on art... But idk it could be anything right? What things are off the table (besides reserved list stuff obv) I would love to see a fetchland in there but we just had FTV realms :/
I assume with 20 cards instead of 15 it will sell for even more than past ftv's?
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 12, 2013, 07:09:59 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on July 12, 2013, 06:38:16 PM
Quote from: #noided on July 12, 2013, 06:17:38 PM
EDIT: {Candleabra of Tawnos} jumps out at me for some reason as well.
Reserved list :(
Also they will not print a $300 card in a FTV set...
There is also that.
I thought I heard somewhere that each card was supposed to be an iconic card from each of the 20 years. Does that give any of you older players an idea?
Quote from: Darius on July 12, 2013, 08:01:31 PM
I thought I heard somewhere that each card was supposed to be an iconic card from each of the 20 years. Does that give any of you older players an idea?
Iconic doesn't necessarily mean valuable. {Counterspell}, {Brainstorm}, {Serra Angel}, {Shivan Dragon}, {Hymn to Tourach}... All very iconic but worth very little.
Nothing from the reserve list will be in FtV:20. To breathe new life into Legacy, they'd have the break the list - and they will not. http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=magic/products/reprintpolicy
They tried once to push the limits of the reserve list by saying "premium foils with new art" are not the same as reprinting old cards - we see how that went "A previous version of this policy allowed premium versions of cards on the reserved list to be printed. Starting in 2011, no cards on the reserved list will be printed in either premium or non-premium form."
Quote from: Dudecore on July 12, 2013, 09:19:59 PM
Nothing from the reserve list will be in FtV:20. To breathe new life into Legacy, they'd have the break the list - and they will not. http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=magic/products/reprintpolicy
They tried once to push the limits of the reserve list by saying "premium foils with new art" are not the same as reprinting old cards - we see how that went "A previous version of this policy allowed premium versions of cards on the reserved list to be printed. Starting in 2011, no cards on the reserved list will be printed in either premium or non-premium form."
Are judge foil promos included in that?
{Psychatog} anyone? :P
Quote from: imthelolrus on July 12, 2013, 10:13:03 PM
{Psychatog} anyone? :P
For that art? It has to look like a tog
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 12, 2013, 09:47:31 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 12, 2013, 09:19:59 PM
Nothing from the reserve list will be in FtV:20. To breathe new life into Legacy, they'd have the break the list - and they will not. http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=magic/products/reprintpolicy
They tried once to push the limits of the reserve list by saying "premium foils with new art" are not the same as reprinting old cards - we see how that went "A previous version of this policy allowed premium versions of cards on the reserved list to be printed. Starting in 2011, no cards on the reserved list will be printed in either premium or non-premium form."
Are judge foil promos included in that?
Yep. Judge foils caused the problem.
Where will these be available to buy? Lgs?
This is the first premium i've been around for. Slivers, dragons, fire, and so on were before my time
Yes but you will probably have to preorder them because it has an extremely limited print run and a ton of people want it. If you are lucky you can find a store selling for MSRP instead of over a hundred like some stores do for premium and ftv sets.
Maybe {Archangel of Thune} if they include 2013?
Quote from: Mlerner12 on July 18, 2013, 07:23:01 PM
Maybe {Archangel of Thune} if they include 2013?
No. Past stuff.
Hopefully some cool stuff from FTV: 20 will be spoiled Saturday at the SDCC Magic panel.
{Jace, the Mind Sculptor}
http://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/358663491604856832/photo/1
{Gilded Lotus} new art
http://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/358663621758304258/photo/1
{Impulse} new art
JTMS!!!!!!!
Lol this is gonna be a $200 set if that is true
Quote from: Rass on July 20, 2013, 03:39:37 PM
Lol this is gonna be a $200 set if that is true
It is true. It was announced today at the Magic Panel at Comic Con.
Good mark up for the card shops.
I'm hating these sets. They're too hard to get and card shops charge 10x MSRP for them.
Quote from: Quisequise on July 20, 2013, 03:44:36 PM
Quote from: Rass on July 20, 2013, 03:39:37 PM
Lol this is gonna be a $200 set if that is true
It is true. It was announced today at the Magic Panel at Comic Con.
Yep just googled it and it has 4 cards spoiled. I'm thinking even more expensive.
Wow. Thought I'd buy this one. It's probably going to be more than I'm willing to pay. Especially since I'm not willing to pay for a jace alone
Quote from: Silent1236 on July 20, 2013, 04:17:11 PM
Wow. Thought I'd buy this one. It's probably going to be more than I'm willing to pay. Especially since I'm not willing to pay for a jace alone
Agree
Also, {Hymn to Tourach} and {Akroma's Vengeance}
This is going to be especially awesome for Magic Online. The sets sell for MSRP for however long they're available, they are not redeemable for paper though. But who cares? $40 for a foil JtMS? I'm in.
God damn it. Well so much for even contemplating whether or not to try and obtain a set of this. Stupid Jace.
{Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni} confirmed
Oh boy! Do we really need to remind the world about JtMS?! That card is more broken than Aussie .politics., a reprint is taking a backwards step!
I miss the Revised days where you had to pay {3} to deal one damage, milling (as much as I love that style) was nothing more than a particular 'Stone and a particular Cap and games didn't end before 10 rounds! This is why you'll find me sitting in the Command Zone these days.
Quote from: Spikepit on July 20, 2013, 07:37:03 PM
Oh boy! Do we really need to remind the world about JtMS?! That card is more broken than Aussie .politics., a reprint is taking a backwards step!
I miss the Revised days where you had to pay {3} to deal one damage, milling (as much as I love that style) was nothing more than a particular 'Stone and a particular Cap and games didn't end before 10 rounds! This is why you'll find me sitting in the Command Zone these days.
Can't wait to put a shiny JtMS in my EDH deck. :)
Quote from: Dudecore on July 20, 2013, 07:39:51 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on July 20, 2013, 07:37:03 PM
Oh boy! Do we really need to remind the world about JtMS?! That card is more broken than Aussie .politics., a reprint is taking a backwards step!
I miss the Revised days where you had to pay {3} to deal one damage, milling (as much as I love that style) was nothing more than a particular 'Stone and a particular Cap and games didn't end before 10 rounds! This is why you'll find me sitting in the Command Zone these days.
Can't wait to put a shiny JtMS in my EDH deck. :)
(http://bobtheunicorn069.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/20130530-135206.jpg)
My lgs has preorders for $40 still... Imma call up and preorder them all!!!!
{Cruel Ultimatum}
{Venser, Shaper Savant}
{Gilded Lotus} all confirmed apparently
Hopefully we'll get some older goodness. Foil, new art {dark ritual} anyone? So far, 1/5 of the cards are in modern frames.
HNNNNGGG
http://www.examiner.com/article/jace-the-mind-scultptor-to-be-reprinted-from-the-vault-twenty
http://bit.ly/18vNVcS
http://www.magicspoiler.com/from-the-vault-twenty-spoiler/
Is this real?
$500? Yuck.
Also, no one saw {Impulse} being the spoiled art's card coming!
Quote from: Langku on July 21, 2013, 02:33:17 AM
http://www.examiner.com/article/jace-the-mind-scultptor-to-be-reprinted-from-the-vault-twenty
http://bit.ly/18vNVcS
http://www.magicspoiler.com/from-the-vault-twenty-spoiler/
Is this real?
Most? Seems likely. JtMS is reserved list... That's not real.
Quote from: Mlerner12 on July 21, 2013, 02:43:01 AM
Quote from: Langku on July 21, 2013, 02:33:17 AM
http://www.examiner.com/article/jace-the-mind-scultptor-to-be-reprinted-from-the-vault-twenty
http://bit.ly/18vNVcS
http://www.magicspoiler.com/from-the-vault-twenty-spoiler/
Is this real?
Most? Seems likely. JtMS is reserved list... That's not real.
False. Nothing from Mercadian Masque and up is on the reserved list.
Additionally, {Jace, the Mind Sculpter} reprint was revealed by WotC themselves at SDCC earlier today.
Really? Oh. Huh.
eBay buy it now 510
How much is it worth so far?
{Karn Liberated}? Anybody?
I don't know if we will get more than one Planeswalker. I would love to see {Mana Leak} or {Remand} -- would also explain why it wasn't in modern masters either. We already have a lot of blue though. I'm still thinking about {Lightning Bolt} ;)
.love. just let us buy it directly from them for $40
Not this bullpoo of letting hobby shops charge whatever they feel like.
Just take out Jace. That's all. Maybe they think the prices will drop but I feel it will just make them rise as demand will rise (look at MM)
Careful now! -Silent
Quote from: Taysby on July 21, 2013, 07:44:47 PM
So if I start magic online, I can buy that set for $40 then redeem it for paper ones?
Wy would anyone just buy it in paper?
Not redeemable.
Quote from: Dudecore on July 20, 2013, 05:24:56 PM
This is going to be especially awesome for Magic Online. The sets sell for MSRP for however long they're available, they are not redeemable for paper though. But who cares? $40 for a foil JtMS? I'm in.
Really? Mind Sculptor? So much for a reasonable price tag on this thing. All I wanted was a realistically priced set of cards for casual and commander play. So maybe, just maybe, it could be about fun.
I live in a fantasy world, don't I? :(
Quote from: Gorzo on July 22, 2013, 03:05:16 AM
Really? Mind Sculptor? So much for a reasonable price tag on this thing. All I wanted was a realistically priced set of cards for casual and commander play. So maybe, just maybe, it could be about fun.
I live in a fantasy world, don't I? :(
Agreed. These sets will be $4-500 and that's just stupid.
$600
Limited edition, foil, {Jace, the Mindsculptor}? I shudder at that price tag. $500-$700 is a good starting point I think?
So I'm thinking {jace the mind sculpter} is going to drop as my lgs has preorder of this set for $40 (min 30down) or maybe your not guaranteed to get all 20 cards ? Something just doesn't seem right here. That or this jace is only going to be worthless (still an amazing card though)
I dont believe {jace the mind sculptor} will be in it
Quote from: JustAWalrus on July 22, 2013, 07:57:48 PM
I dont believe {jace the mind sculptor} will be in it
It was confirmed by wizards at comic con this past weekend.
Haven't the fvl editions of cards been the same price as a normal version of the card even though they are foil? I remember thinking this was because you are guranteed the foil.
Example: fvl {Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir} and time spiral {Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir}. Just a thought although I'm sure jace might be the exception
Quote from: Darius on July 22, 2013, 08:11:37 PM
Haven't the fvl editions of cards been the same price as a normal version of the card even though they are foil? I remember thinking this was because you are guranteed the foil.
Example: fvl {Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir} and time spiral {Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir}. Just a thought although I'm sure jace might be the exception
There hasn't been anything with as much impact as Jace, though. I don't see him having the thousand dollar price tag the regular foil jace has, but it'll be more than $150 I bet.
Very true Silent. Very true
{lotus petal} ftv and temptest are different
Same with {sensei's divining top}
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on July 22, 2013, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on July 22, 2013, 07:57:48 PM
I dont believe {jace the mind sculptor} will be in it
It was confirmed by wizards at comic con this past weekend.
WHY are people still doubting this? It was confirmed.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on July 22, 2013, 10:15:58 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on July 22, 2013, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: JustAWalrus on July 22, 2013, 07:57:48 PM
I dont believe {jace the mind sculptor} will be in it
It was confirmed by wizards at comic con this past weekend.
WHY are people still doubting this? It was confirmed.
Because its just such a stupid move by Wizards that people can't believe it.
Well maybe after the hype it will drop some more $399 buy now on eBay from a lot of places
Since they showed that {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} was gonna be in FtV:20 jace has dropped down in price. Was 150 now almost 140 and foil prices are showing 799.
Yeah, it's important to remember the slight increase in supply will drop prices for a little (so if you've wanted a jace buy an old one? One guy at my lgs recommended buying a damaged one if you plan on using it for casual EDH play.) sadly im in the boat where I don't like Jtms & do not have a deck to put him in but likely want everything else in FTV 20.
I think a FTV jace could be 200-300$$ but it's so hard to say.
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on July 23, 2013, 12:45:16 AM
Since they showed that {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} was gonna be in FtV:20 jace has dropped down in price. Was 150 now almost 140 and foil prices are showing 799.
JTMS has been at this price, at least for a few weeks. I don't follow the foil price because of its ridiculousness, but just wanted to throw that out their.
I'm thinking {Venser, Shaper Savant} could be in the $30-35 range while {Hymn to Tourach} might be somewhere between $15-20!
Can't wait to see what else will be released!
Anyone else wondering how high this set could go if anymore high value cards get bumped in?
Just imagine a foil {Force of Will}? Or something to that effect...
Everyone is complaining about Jace but like MaRo said-I am angry you are giving us cards we want is a weird message to give. Jace TMS isn't really all that amazing, just valued as the only planeswalker with 4 abilities, this will drop his price to a more realistic level and I think the goal here is the same as the goal was for MM, to make Modern a less expensive game and more easily accessible to new players while not devaluing cards enough to anger collectors.
Would be nice if you could actually buy it for msrp. Instead it's a money grab for shops.
MSRP = manufacturer's suggested retail price. Wizards of the Coast cannot fix prices, otherwise it would not be worth it for retailers to stock their product.
Also, Mark Rosewater is right. We're all screaming that they reprinted Jace, because everyone wants him and that drives the price up? What a weird message to send.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 25, 2013, 08:18:33 AM
Everyone is complaining about Jace but like MaRo said-I am angry you are giving us cards we want is a weird message to give. Jace TMS isn't really all that amazing, just valued as the only planeswalker with 4 abilities, this will drop his price to a more realistic level and I think the goal here is the same as the goal was for MM, to make Modern a less expensive game and more easily accessible to new players while not devaluing cards enough to anger collectors.
Except a lot of the FTV cards won't be modern legal. Some are for edh, etc.
Quote from: NyghtHawk on July 25, 2013, 10:46:44 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 25, 2013, 08:18:33 AM
Everyone is complaining about Jace but like MaRo said-I am angry you are giving us cards we want is a weird message to give. Jace TMS isn't really all that amazing, just valued as the only planeswalker with 4 abilities, this will drop his price to a more realistic level and I think the goal here is the same as the goal was for MM, to make Modern a less expensive game and more easily accessible to new players while not devaluing cards enough to anger collectors.
Except a lot of the FTV cards won't be modern legal. Some are for edh, etc.
Yeah, I feel like they make FTV for collectors and EDH players.
Quote from: imthelolrus on July 25, 2013, 03:48:38 PM
Quote from: NyghtHawk on July 25, 2013, 10:46:44 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on July 25, 2013, 08:18:33 AM
Everyone is complaining about Jace but like MaRo said-I am angry you are giving us cards we want is a weird message to give. Jace TMS isn't really all that amazing, just valued as the only planeswalker with 4 abilities, this will drop his price to a more realistic level and I think the goal here is the same as the goal was for MM, to make Modern a less expensive game and more easily accessible to new players while not devaluing cards enough to anger collectors.
Except a lot of the FTV cards won't be modern legal. Some are for edh, etc.
Yeah, I feel like they make FTV for collectors and EDH players.
Not even that. They make it for the game shops that can control the entire supply.
{Gilded lotus} confirmed
Just gotta be homies with guys who run the LGS :)
Quote from: Stromack on August 04, 2013, 06:21:06 AM
{Gilded lotus} confirmed
That's been out for awhile. :)
So sad they put JtMS in. The cost is gonna be rediculous.
Actually been dropping, as soon as JtMS was announced was $600 price tag, now it's more like $250 so either retailers were just being assanine or WotC flooded the market a little bit to try to help. Either way hope to see it under $200 and its a definite buy from me.
Retail stores don't receive FTV sets. Just card stores. Most card places in Columbus are doing names in a hat during fnm to see who can purchase one at msrp
YUSH!!!!
FTV's are so hard to get........but that's what makes them special !!
Apparently one of the lgs's around here is giving away a copy to the winner of an Innistrad draft. I want to try for it...but at the same time, I really don't.
I really wanted a {Force of Will} in the set...
Is the full list spoiled?
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 05, 2013, 03:02:15 PM
Is the full list spoiled?
dont think anything else had been shown yet so fow could still be possible but highly doubtful.
Does anyone think we can see {Timetwister} ??
I know it's one of the Power 9 but it seems to be the least well known of the 9
Quote from: Mizark on August 05, 2013, 07:56:31 PM
Does anyone think we can see {Timetwister} ??
I know it's one of the Power 9 but it seems to be the least well known of the 9
Is it on the Reserve list?
Speculation n confirmations from my local group forum:
expect for FTV:20
Entreat the angel(or termius)for 2012,
Galvanic blast or hero of blade hold for 2011
*jace for 2010
*cruel ultimatum for 2009
bitterblossum, or thoughtseize for 2008
*venser for 2007
remand, for 2006
*Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni for 2005
*gilded lotus for 2004
*akroma's vengeance for 2003
upheal or cabal coffer for 2002
IDK for 2001
Richadan port for 2000
voltaic key(?) for 1999
reflecting pool for 1998
??? for 1997
??? for 1996
??? for 1995/1994
*for sure
Quote from: #noided on August 05, 2013, 07:57:47 PM
Quote from: Mizark on August 05, 2013, 07:56:31 PM
Does anyone think we can see {Timetwister} ??
I know it's one of the Power 9 but it seems to be the least well known of the 9
Is it on the Reserve list?
It is but still
Didn't they reprint {Time Walk} for the World tourneys as a badass extra prize for the winners ??
So if they want to celebrate the 20 years of Magic why not reprint a Power 9 card ?? And the least known at that !!
But it will probably not happen 😓
There will be one card on there from every year. So anything is possible.
Can you keep an updated list Dudecore on page 1?
{Ancestrial Recall}, 5 moxes, {Black Lotus}, {Time Walk}.... Is {Timetwister} in the power nine???
FtV:20 fully spoiled
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/rc/259
Shamowzow!
{Dark Ritual} and {Swords to Plowshares}, there's some ol' school game play memories!
LOL. If there wasn't jace that wouldn't even be close to being worth MSRP
I didn't expect anything better than Jace, but c'mon...most of these cards are uncommon or common...a little ridiculous.
I do like that STP and Hymn are getting foiled, but really? A little disappointed.
At least we get a {Kessig Wolf Run}, hopefully we can make it in less than 12 parsecs.
This is actually a good set for the history standpoint. I remember playing with most of this cards when I was playing from 4th ed to onslaught. When I took a break from magic, I was completely out of the loop. Now I get to see what cards were good from the time I wasn't playing. This is a good collectors item, and I feel the price is just going to keep climbing.
I like it. Would still buy it if jace wasn't in it. Actually would rather see {Stoneforge Mystic} instead of jace to keep the price down.
I agree a hundred percent. Magic is expensive enough without paying 200 dollars for cards you cant even use in the most popular format (type 2)
They really went for a good selection of cards, the ritual and swords is awesome. I wouldn't be surprised if the foil ritual was 30+$ since the only other foil is a judge foil.
I'm sad that most of these don't really interest me :/ Prob won't buy this one as a whole and just pick up a few of the singles for EDH
New {Cruel Ultimatum} art 😍
The new {Venser, Shaper Savant} is pretty cool, too
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 06, 2013, 01:20:30 PM
New {Cruel Ultimatum} art 😍
The new {Venser, Shaper Savant} is pretty cool, too
so how did he become a planeswalker?
Wouldn't it be easier for wizards just to come to house every year and take $200 dollars out of my wallet?
Quote from: Birdbrain on August 06, 2013, 01:26:13 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 06, 2013, 01:20:30 PM
New {Cruel Ultimatum} art 😍
The new {Venser, Shaper Savant} is pretty cool, too
so how did he become a planeswalker?
I think he was always a planeswalker but at the time of the old venser's printing there weren't planeswalker cards. As for venser's story, he apparently got help from teferi in awakening it.
Source: http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Venser
Unstickied. Full set spoiled.
http://www.gatheringmagic.com/carlos-gutierrez-news-ftv-08062013-contents-of-from-the-vault-20-revealed/
Im disappointed that {dark ritual} doesn't have new artwork, but at the same time, it'll be sweet in the FTV foil.
Good cards, but kinda underwhelming to me. I have pretty much all of them except for a mind sculptor, but i guess if you have the extra cash to drop, it'd be pretty cool to have
Yeah I'm a little disappointed outside of swords and the dynamo (really want those foils for my Isamaru EDH deck). FTV are always impossible to find for a fair price, and one game shop I was counting o isn't getting any. I need to call this local baseball card shop he said he would try to sell close to msrp.
I noticed that, who destickied this?
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on August 07, 2013, 05:32:18 PM
I noticed that, who destickied this?
I did. The full set as been spoiled. It's not speculation anymore.
Makes sense.
Why is {Char} in FTV 20? Its terrible! You can deal 4 damage to a player {W}{R} with a {Boros Charm} or deal 4 to creature or player and gain 4 with {Warleader's Helix} and both of those are standard. Why would anyone use {Char}?!? I can understand {Psionic Blast} because blue doesn't have any burn but not a mono red burn spell that sucks this much.
I WANTED {BLACK LOTUS} !!!!!............what ?😐.............. i wanted one 😁
Anyway, it looks good, that {Cruel Ultimatum looks Epic, just wished that {Dark Ritual} would get a new artwork too.
It deserves it, after all it is part of the legendary boon cycle !!
Btw, this is my 100th post YAY !!!! 😝🎉🎊🎈
Quote from: Mizark on August 07, 2013, 06:01:03 PM
I WANTED {BLACK LOTUS} !!!!!............what ?😐.............. i wanted one 😁
Anyway, it looks good, that {Cruel Ultimatum looks Epic, just wished that {Dark Ritual} would get a new artwork too.
It deserves it, after all it is part of the legendary boon cycle !!
Btw, this is my 100th post YAY !!!! 😝🎉🎊🎈
Congrats! Also, I would prefer {Time Walk}.
It was already assumed with 99% certainty power 9 would not be printed. But, we were laughing about the msrp when they announced JtMS. You really think anyone could afford a foil black lotus. Say goodbye to the $250 and hello to $2500...dat $39.95 msrp
I know. Make a FTV: P9, WotC! $3000 dollars, {Ancestral Recall} and {Time Walk} with different art!!
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 09, 2013, 11:49:01 AM
I know. Make a FTV: P9, WotC! $3000 dollars, {Ancestral Recall} and {Time Walk} with different art!!
3k for a altered art, foil p9, you wish it would only cost $3k
Quote from: Anoobass on August 09, 2013, 11:51:16 AM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on August 09, 2013, 11:49:01 AM
I know. Make a FTV: P9, WotC! $3000 dollars, {Ancestral Recall} and {Time Walk} with different art!!
3k for a altered art, foil p9, you wish it would only cost $3k
I can dream!!!
I nabbed a box for $100 at my lgs and a Venser off eBay for $9. That new Venser art is sick!
My LGS took preorder names at $50 a piece when it was first announced, then conveniently "lost" the list three days after {Jace, the mind sculptor} was spoiled and then made a new list and jacked the price up to $130.
My LGS isn't even ordering them, he doesn't want to deal with the ridiculous prices.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on August 09, 2013, 12:23:51 PM
My LGS took preorder names at $50 a piece when it was first announced, then conveniently "lost" the list three days after {Jace, the mind sculptor} was spoiled and then made a new list and jacked the price up to $130.
Yeah the lgs Moneekah and I were going to preorder at conveniently "forgot" to order it and said he can't get it. Sigh.
Quote from: imthelolrus on August 09, 2013, 12:55:41 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on August 09, 2013, 12:23:51 PM
My LGS took preorder names at $50 a piece when it was first announced, then conveniently "lost" the list three days after {Jace, the mind sculptor} was spoiled and then made a new list and jacked the price up to $130.
Yeah the lgs Moneekah and I were going to preorder at conveniently "forgot" to order it and said he can't get it. Sigh.
It's ridiculous man. I really really want those foil {dark ritual} and {hymn to tourach}. I hate that they put them in the same set as JtMS.
Yeah, I wanted the {Swords to Plowshares}.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on August 09, 2013, 12:23:51 PM
My LGS took preorder names at $50 a piece when it was first announced, then conveniently "lost" the list three days after {Jace, the mind sculptor} was spoiled and then made a new list and jacked the price up to $130.
That is beyond screwed up, I would never go there if I witnessed that.. At least my lgs started at 100 and stayed there. They're also doing raffles to purchase them at msrp and you get entries from attending fnm or purchasing fat packs or boosters, etc.
My lgs had preorders for 30 and the dude legit told me it would be 40 in total for the whole thing. So I go down the next day and he says oh dude on phone must have been wrong, were only getting 5 copies so the minimum deposit is $30 and the grand total will be much much more than 40.... I still preordered it just as the final price isn't known at my lgs and I'm the fifth of 5 preorders. Complete bullfarkile
My lgs has 20. Giving 10 away FOR FREE, and the other 10 for sale for $50.
Dang.... And I just need one card so I continue my one card from every set released thing
Quote from: rarehuntertay on August 09, 2013, 04:47:23 PM
Dang.... And I just need one card so I continue my one card from every set released thing
Buy the cheapest one on ebay. I am just buying the only card I want from the set on Ebay, {Swords to Plowshares}.
Are these cards legal in modern? I mean all of them
Quote from: Birdbrain on August 16, 2013, 09:24:11 PM
Are these cards legal in modern? I mean all of them
No