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Title: Isochron Scepter and Blaze
Post by: michael19 on June 23, 2013, 03:49:20 PM
When I play {Isochron Scepter}, could I exile and copy {Blaze} and deal infinity damage for only two mana?
Title: Re: Isochron Scepter and Blaze
Post by: Gorzo on June 23, 2013, 03:50:56 PM
X will = 0 when you cast from the scepter, as you are not paying for it.

Also, blaze is a sorcery and the scepter only takes Instants ;) but were it an instant, X would still be 0 when cast for free.

RESOLVED
Title: Re: Isochron Scepter and Blaze
Post by: michael19 on June 23, 2013, 03:53:18 PM
But could I exile it and just pay 2 and X whenever I wanted?
Title: Re: Isochron Scepter and Blaze
Post by: Gorzo on June 23, 2013, 03:55:31 PM
I'm afraid not, you cannot pay for X. You're never casting the spell itself, you are only paying {2} to activate the scepter's ability. It then places a free copy of the spell on the stack. And that free copy will always have X's valued at 0.
Title: Re: Isochron Scepter and Blaze
Post by: michael19 on June 23, 2013, 03:57:46 PM
Ohhh, I get it. Well, thanks anyways
Title: Re: Isochron Scepter and Blaze
Post by: Mentonin on June 23, 2013, 04:06:19 PM
What about  {Spell Contortion}?
I know the CMC wouldn't allow it, but a similar effect could have you draw infinite cards if you wanted?
Title: Re: Isochron Scepter and Blaze
Post by: Gorzo on June 23, 2013, 04:09:33 PM
Quote from: Mentonin on June 23, 2013, 04:06:19 PM
What about  {Spell Contortion}?
I know the CMC wouldn't allow it, but a similar effect could have you draw infinite cards if you wanted?

From gatherer on the Scepter:

12/1/2004   You don't pay the spell's mana cost. If the spell has X in its mana cost, X is 0. You do pay any additional costs for that spell. You can't use any alternative costs.

You can use additional costs like kicker, but you have to pay for 'em.
Title: Re: Isochron Scepter and Blaze
Post by: Black Death on June 24, 2013, 05:23:16 PM
Hi