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Title: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 19, 2013, 07:36:20 PM
So right now our spoilers are
  {Tarmogoyf}
  {City of Brass}
  {Æther Spellbomb}
  {Dark Confidant}
So guys, any speculations do you guys have?
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: #noided on May 19, 2013, 07:37:32 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 19, 2013, 07:36:20 PM
So right now our spoilers are
  {Tarmogoyf}
  {City of Brass}
  {Æther Spellbomb}

So guys, any speculations do you guys have?

This set won't live up to the hype.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 19, 2013, 07:38:26 PM
Quote from: #noided on May 19, 2013, 07:37:32 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 19, 2013, 07:36:20 PM
So right now our spoilers are
  {Tarmogoyf}
  {City of Brass}
  {Æther Spellbomb}

So guys, any speculations do you guys have?

This set won't live up to the hype.

I know but why not just have a convo about the set anyways. It is because they are all reprints
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 19, 2013, 07:39:56 PM
I'd love a reprint {icy manipulator}...
Or {spiritmonger} I loved that guy!
Or even {phantom nishoba} another badass
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 19, 2013, 07:50:17 PM
Why not {Vindicate}!?!? That would be awesome to pull in a draft for this. Good thing my lgsis selling packs for $4-$5
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 19, 2013, 08:00:55 PM
Also  {Dark Confidant}
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 19, 2013, 08:15:38 PM
I think it's fair to say we'll see Bob and {Thoughtseize}. Is the printin going through the end of Alara block or up to Alara? Because if it's through to the end of Alara then we'll most likely see {Path to Exile} as well.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 19, 2013, 08:21:30 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 19, 2013, 08:15:38 PM
I think it's fair to say we'll see Bob and {Thoughtseize}. Is the printin going through the end of Alara block or up to Alara? Because if it's through to the end of Alara then we'll most likely see {Path to Exile} as well.


I think end of alara block. I see  {Noble Hierarch},  {Bitterblossom} and  {Daybreak Coronet}
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Iandtormentor on May 19, 2013, 08:25:05 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 19, 2013, 08:21:30 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 19, 2013, 08:15:38 PM
I think it's fair to say we'll see Bob and {Thoughtseize}. Is the printin going through the end of Alara block or up to Alara? Because if it's through to the end of Alara then we'll most likely see {Path to Exile} as well.

{Daybreak Coronet}
hopefully with new art...
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Silent1236 on May 19, 2013, 08:34:38 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 19, 2013, 07:50:17 PM
Why not {Vindicate}!?!? That would be awesome to pull in a draft for this. Good thing my lgsis selling packs for $4-$5

Not in modern?
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Wally on May 19, 2013, 08:50:15 PM
Linky for the front page
http://www.mythicspoiler.com/mdm/
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Dmreiss on May 19, 2013, 08:52:49 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 19, 2013, 07:39:56 PM
I'd love a reprint {icy manipulator}...
Or {spiritmonger} I loved that guy!
Or even {phantom nishoba} another badass

Only Icy is legal in your list for modern. 

And I am not holding out much hope for this set.  It is going to be draftable, so it is not going to be all the most over powered stuff.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Xaol on May 19, 2013, 09:06:07 PM
{Kitchen Finks} will be printed at rare. Same with {Sensei's Divining Top} (?) I'm seeing {Dark Confidant} and {Thoughseize} at Mythic.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Kaleo42 on May 19, 2013, 09:55:32 PM
Quote from: Dmreiss on May 19, 2013, 08:52:49 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on May 19, 2013, 07:39:56 PM
I'd love a reprint {icy manipulator}...
Or {spiritmonger} I loved that guy!
Or even {phantom nishoba} another badass

Only Icy is legal in your list for modern. 

And I am not holding out much hope for this set.  It is going to be draftable, so it is not going to be all the most over powered stuff.
Why not? Cube drafts are a thing.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on May 19, 2013, 10:02:02 PM
Quote from: Xaol on May 19, 2013, 09:06:07 PM
{Kitchen Finks} will be printed at rare. Same with {Sensei's Divining Top} (?) I'm seeing {Dark Confidant} and {Thoughseize} at Mythic.
Top will be mythic, and my thoughts on thoughtseize.I have to say I don't know. :/
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on May 19, 2013, 10:02:33 PM
Oh wait do you think banned cards will be included?
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Kaleo42 on May 19, 2013, 10:03:51 PM
Only recent bans
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on May 19, 2013, 10:22:52 PM
They are only printing Modern legal cards. No {Sensei's Divining Top} (already reprinted in From the Vault: Exiled).

The set runs from 8th Edition - Alara Reborn.  The set also does not contain any cards which are on the banned list of the Modern format at the time of its design.

Also, Modern Masters will be available for Magic Online. The set will NOT be redeemable.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Silent1236 on May 19, 2013, 11:29:30 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on May 19, 2013, 10:22:52 PM
The set runs from 8th Edition - Alara Reborn. 

I actually am disappointed.  No fetches?  I am really hoping to see some reprints in coming expansions. 
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Silent1236 on May 20, 2013, 12:09:13 AM
Confirmed {Dark Confidant} reprint...
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 20, 2013, 05:42:35 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on May 20, 2013, 12:09:13 AM
Confirmed {Dark Confidant} reprint...
I only entirely saw that coming. Haha I hope the new art is of Littlefinger from Game of Thrones.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 20, 2013, 12:48:01 PM
Quote from: KangaRod on May 20, 2013, 11:13:42 AM
They won't be able to just print everything at rare rare rare mythic. There will have to be some commons and uncommons in there. I can't see  {Kitchen Finks} as rare, but what the hell do I know.
His impact on Modern makes him Rare worthy if I do say so myself.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 20, 2013, 12:54:56 PM
Although, I guess if he is an Uncommon it triples my chances to pull him (essentially, I know some Rares/Uncommons/Mythics are printed less than others due to power) as opposed to a Rare slot.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 20, 2013, 04:38:56 PM
I can see  {Vendilion Clique} being in modern masters.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Quackmaster5 on May 20, 2013, 06:02:03 PM
I really don't think they are going to print cards with high high value. That will bring down the market value for most cards, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on May 20, 2013, 06:15:38 PM
Oh, and when you say they won't reprint the high high value cards.  Look at the spoiled cards already.  Then it has been confirmed that {Dark Confidant} is going to be in the set.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 20, 2013, 06:23:39 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on May 20, 2013, 06:02:03 PM
I really don't think they are going to print cards with high high value. That will bring down the market value for most cards, wouldn't it?
They won't print cards to flood a market, not even close. They're going to marginally increase the supply, that doesn't mean prices will drop. They'll hardly be touched. Older versions with original artwork will always be sought after. I know I definitely have a {Tarmogoyf} preference. For now though, if this is my way to get my hands on on Goyf then sweet, I'll take it. The last thing WotC wants to do is upset the secondary market, especially collectors. This is the exact thing they're trying NOT to do with Modern Masters.

Short answer: no, it won't.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on May 23, 2013, 12:34:01 PM
HHNNNNGG so many spoilers this morning
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 23, 2013, 12:51:36 PM
Yes. Very exited for elspeth, finks, and the dragon!!!!
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on May 23, 2013, 01:12:39 PM
I want a foil  {Arcbound Ravager} glad finks & path stayed at uncommon. I know I'll open at least one of those from a whole box lol
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: MementoMori on May 23, 2013, 01:18:57 PM
Some of these spoilers are weird. They use outdated terms like "comes into play," and Elspeth doesn't reference an emblem in her ult. I figured they would have updated text.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 23, 2013, 01:34:04 PM
I can't wait, I'll go google it. For our lazier members though, anyone mind posting a link?
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 23, 2013, 01:35:56 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 23, 2013, 01:34:04 PM
I can't wait, I'll go google it. For our lazier members though, anyone mind posting a link?


http://www.mythicspoiler.com/mdm/index.html
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 23, 2013, 01:38:58 PM
{Sword of Fire and Ice}! And I'm guessing the Echoing cycle? I could always use more {Echoing Truth}. They should give us a {Sword of Light and Shadow} reprint, that'd be cool. Oh holy crap I'm getting excited!
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 23, 2013, 01:39:34 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 23, 2013, 01:35:56 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 23, 2013, 01:34:04 PM
I can't wait, I'll go google it. For our lazier members though, anyone mind posting a link?


http://www.mythicspoiler.com/mdm/index.html
Thank you
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 23, 2013, 01:46:43 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 23, 2013, 01:38:58 PM
{Sword of Fire and Ice}! And I'm guessing the Echoing cycle? I could always use more {Echoing Truth}. They should give us a {Sword of Light and Shadow} reprint, that'd be cool. Oh holy crap I'm getting excited!


Lmao. Me too!! It is a vets heaven
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on May 23, 2013, 01:55:30 PM
{Arcbound Ravager}, {Æther Vial}, {Kitchen Finks}, {Path to Exile}. Nice stuff.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 23, 2013, 02:09:29 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on May 23, 2013, 01:55:30 PM
{Arcbound Ravager}, {Æther Vial}, {Kitchen Finks}, {Path to Exile}. Nice stuff.
Seriously, that's beautiful.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Quackmaster5 on May 23, 2013, 02:50:57 PM
New players won't appreciate MM I think. They see a card like Ghofy and say, "why is this 100 bucks?"  I know I did when I first played
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on May 23, 2013, 03:05:27 PM
Quote from: MementoMori on May 23, 2013, 01:18:57 PM
Some of these spoilers are weird. They use outdated terms like "comes into play," and Elspeth doesn't reference an emblem in her ult. I figured they would have updated text.

Stock images on some of these, tooth and nail text is updated I assume the others will be too :)
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Silent1236 on May 23, 2013, 04:30:32 PM
I'm honestly getting pretty pissed that I'm not getting any of this set.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Falcon182 on May 23, 2013, 06:00:54 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on May 23, 2013, 04:30:32 PM
I'm honestly getting pretty pissed that I'm not getting any of this set.

I'm pissed I couldn't get in at MSRP but I'm glad I ordered a box anyway.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Xaol on May 23, 2013, 06:10:51 PM
{Elspeth, Knight-Errant} spoiled. {Academy Ruins} spoiled. {Ryusei, the Falling Star} spoiled.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Ace on May 24, 2013, 05:24:26 AM
{Path to exile}, {arcbound ravager}, {kitchen finks}, {knight of the reliquary}, {sword of fire and ice}, and {academy ruins} spoiled also! I am getting super excited to draft this and to open my box.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 24, 2013, 02:54:38 PM
Quote from: Potticus on May 24, 2013, 02:48:21 PM
Guys the source was a random post on a forum as of last night O.o


What?? I dont get your statement lol
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Frothandslosh on May 24, 2013, 06:48:48 PM
How is no one excited for Goblin Diplomats? As far as I'm concerned, this is the two-drop rare creature that Modern has been clamp ring for. Just think of what it can do: It makes an early played {Tarmagoyf}, {Dark Confidant}, or any other low toughness creature attack into a first striker (which saves you a burn spell). Plus, it's a Goblin, a hugely supported archetype in Modern and most other formats.

I can't wait to see what this guy can bring to the table.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on May 24, 2013, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: Frothandslosh on May 24, 2013, 06:48:48 PM
How is no one excited for Goblin Diplomats? As far as I'm concerned, this is the two-drop rare creature that Modern has been clamp ring for. Just think of what it can do: It makes an early played {Tarmagoyf}, {Dark Confidant}, or any other low toughness creature attack into a first striker (which saves you a burn spell). Plus, it's a Goblin, a hugely supported archetype in Modern and most other formats.

I can't wait to see what this guy can bring to the table.
Goblin Diplomats is in M14 not modern masters.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Frothandslosh on May 25, 2013, 12:04:17 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on May 24, 2013, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: Frothandslosh on May 24, 2013, 06:48:48 PM
How is no one excited for Goblin Diplomats? As far as I'm concerned, this is the two-drop rare creature that Modern has been clamp ring for. Just think of what it can do: It makes an early played {Tarmagoyf}, {Dark Confidant}, or any other low toughness creature attack into a first striker (which saves you a burn spell). Plus, it's a Goblin, a hugely supported archetype in Modern and most other formats.

I can't wait to see what this guy can bring to the table.
Goblin Diplomats is in M14 not modern masters.

Whoops, wrong forum XD
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Moneekahh on May 25, 2013, 01:19:09 AM
Somehow, we preordered 2 boxes at 105 each from the little shop in Noah's parents town. These guys don't really know how to run a shop but to sell these for 105 a box?? WHAT.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Frothandslosh on May 25, 2013, 01:23:57 AM
Quote from: Moneekahh on May 25, 2013, 01:19:09 AM
Somehow, we preordered 2 boxes at 105 each from the little shop in Noah's parents town. These guys don't really know how to run a shop but to sell these for 105 a box?? WHAT.

Be prepaired to make AT LEAST a 300% profit. Good find by the both of you.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Falcon182 on May 25, 2013, 01:30:53 AM
Quote from: Moneekahh on May 25, 2013, 01:19:09 AM
Somehow, we preordered 2 boxes at 105 each from the little shop in Noah's parents town. These guys don't really know how to run a shop but to sell these for 105 a box?? WHAT.

What?!
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 25, 2013, 08:28:51 AM
Quote from: Moneekahh on May 25, 2013, 01:19:09 AM
Somehow, we preordered 2 boxes at 105 each from the little shop in Noah's parents town. These guys don't really know how to run a shop but to sell these for 105 a box?? WHAT.


Lucky, today my lgs is giving away a whole box for free :)
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 25, 2013, 11:06:04 AM
I was right, vendillion clique reprint
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 25, 2013, 11:55:23 AM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 25, 2013, 11:06:04 AM
I was right, vendillion clique reprint
I'm at a loss for words. This is quite possibly the most beautiful set ever made. And the spoilers aren't even close to done...
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Moneekahh on May 25, 2013, 12:14:34 PM
Whats with the kamigawa dragons in this set though?
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on May 25, 2013, 01:49:21 PM
Well there are all 15 mythics spoiled. Pretty good stuff. Don't know {Vendilion Clique} was moved to Mythic, but I won't complain.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: scarsabrex on May 25, 2013, 01:52:55 PM
Am I the only one confused by Sarkhan vol?
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Moneekahh on May 25, 2013, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on May 25, 2013, 01:49:21 PM
Well there are all 15 mythics spoiled. Pretty good stuff. Don't know {Vendilion Clique} was moved to Mythic, but I won't complain.

I only see 14 mythics?
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on May 25, 2013, 02:12:24 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on May 25, 2013, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on May 25, 2013, 01:49:21 PM
Well there are all 15 mythics spoiled. Pretty good stuff. Don't know {Vendilion Clique} was moved to Mythic, but I won't complain.

I only see 14 mythics?

I probably counted {Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker} twice. Still missing one then. Wonder what it could be. Maybe {Ajani Vengeant}?
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: ihasfrozen on May 25, 2013, 02:37:46 PM
mtg salvation said the last mythic is  {Vedalken Shackles}, but I think they were just going off of the booster art for that.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Ace on May 25, 2013, 03:06:10 PM
I am betting money the last mythic will be thoughtsieze
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Moneekahh on May 25, 2013, 03:10:47 PM
Quote from: Ace on May 25, 2013, 03:06:10 PM
I am betting money the last mythic will be thoughtsieze

I agree. Although my fiancé disagrees because that would give black an unfair advantage having 3 mythics  {Dark Confidant},  {Kokusho, the Evening Star}, and  {Thoughtseize}.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on May 25, 2013, 03:15:13 PM
{Thoughtseize} will probably be rare again. I am completely floored by the amount of money they're printing in this set. It's like every single card is worth something. There may not be a bad pack in this whole thing - if these spoilers are to be trusted.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Falcon182 on May 25, 2013, 05:00:45 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on May 25, 2013, 03:15:13 PM
{Thoughtseize} will probably be rare again. I am completely floored by the amount of money they're printing in this set. It's like every single card is worth something. There may not be a bad pack in this whole thing - if these spoilers are to be trusted.

They're putting too much good stuff in here IMO. They won't be obtainable by the average player.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on May 25, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
What's the chance the last mythic will be a land?  {Mutavault} ?  {Glimmervoid} ?
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 25, 2013, 05:23:08 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 25, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
What's the chance the last mythic will be a land?  {Mutavault} ?  {Glimmervoid} ?
It's possible. {Glimmervoid} would be sweet! I agree with {Thoughtseize} staying at Rare though.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 25, 2013, 07:10:07 PM
{Cryptic Command} 😚
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on May 25, 2013, 07:17:57 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but why is {Narcomoeba} being reprinted in MM? Isnt that a main component in dredge, and is dredge popular outside of legacy?

Im by no means an expert on the format, but it seems the banning of {golgari grave-troll} severely hurt the archetype in modern.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on May 25, 2013, 08:13:57 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on May 25, 2013, 07:17:57 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but why is {Narcomoeba} being reprinted in MM? Isnt that a main component in dredge, and is dredge popular outside of legacy?

Im by no means an expert on the format, but it seems the banning of {golgari grave-troll} severely hurt the archetype in modern.

The is a lot of overlap with EDH and legacy and im assuming this is for all of those players to benefit.  {Tooth and Nail} isn't used in any modern decks but I don't mind because it's an expensive staple and green is a very popular color in EDH.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on May 25, 2013, 10:23:50 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 25, 2013, 08:13:57 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on May 25, 2013, 07:17:57 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but why is {Narcomoeba} being reprinted in MM? Isnt that a main component in dredge, and is dredge popular outside of legacy?

Im by no means an expert on the format, but it seems the banning of {golgari grave-troll} severely hurt the archetype in modern.

The is a lot of overlap with EDH and legacy and im assuming this is for all of those players to benefit.  {Tooth and Nail} isn't used in any modern decks but I don't mind because it's an expensive staple and green is a very popular color in EDH.

Ah I see.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: MuggyWuggy on May 25, 2013, 10:45:30 PM
This set looks DELICIOUS!!!

Buying a box for sure...if anyone knows anywhere in the SoCal area that is doing preorders below $200 let me know!
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 26, 2013, 10:52:59 AM
Wow... Look at the new spoilers
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 26, 2013, 11:11:40 AM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 26, 2013, 10:52:59 AM
Wow... Look at the new spoilers
Holy...
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 26, 2013, 11:35:39 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 26, 2013, 11:11:40 AM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 26, 2013, 10:52:59 AM
Wow... Look at the new spoilers
Holy...


Bajingles...
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on May 26, 2013, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 26, 2013, 11:35:39 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 26, 2013, 11:11:40 AM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 26, 2013, 10:52:59 AM
Wow... Look at the new spoilers
Holy...


Bajingles...

Mmmm best set evar
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Falcon182 on May 26, 2013, 12:16:43 PM
Ok, this is just getting ridiculous. Haha.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on May 26, 2013, 12:19:58 PM
{Cryptic Command}, {Kira, Great Glass-Spinner}, {Lightning Helix}. All good stuff. There may not be a bad pack in this whole set. The limited Power Level is going to be insane. I actually can't wait to draft this set.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: MisterJH on May 26, 2013, 01:10:58 PM
I feel like i wont be able to afford any f this set
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on May 26, 2013, 01:23:44 PM
Yeah I want to draft it at my lgs, 1st place gets an entire box...
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Falcon182 on May 26, 2013, 02:03:30 PM
One of my LGS is having a pack a win draft in a day I'm not available and the next day they are doing a standard tournament with 1st place getting a box. :-(
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on May 27, 2013, 09:53:37 AM
{Doubling Season} new art (makes absolutely no sense...like the old art) and good Pacts ({Pact of Negation}, {Slaughter Pact}, {Summoner's Pact})
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 12:55:29 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 25, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
What's the chance the last mythic will be a land?  {Mutavault} ?  {Glimmervoid} ?
We got {Glimmervoid} and {Blinkmoth Nexus}!
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on May 27, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 12:55:29 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 25, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
What's the chance the last mythic will be a land?  {Mutavault} ?  {Glimmervoid} ?
We got {Glimmervoid} and {Blinkmoth Nexus}!
Yeah I had a feeling! I think my affinity deck just got a little less valuable but I'm hoping for some foils or alt art to replace the old cards with.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 01:30:32 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 27, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 12:55:29 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 25, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
What's the chance the last mythic will be a land?  {Mutavault} ?  {Glimmervoid} ?
We got {Glimmervoid} and {Blinkmoth Nexus}!
Yeah I had a feeling! I think my affinity deck just got a little less valuable but I'm hoping for some foils or alt art to replace the old cards with.
Shouldn't be by much if at all
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on May 27, 2013, 01:35:51 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 01:30:32 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 27, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 12:55:29 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 25, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
What's the chance the last mythic will be a land?  {Mutavault} ?  {Glimmervoid} ?
We got {Glimmervoid} and {Blinkmoth Nexus}!
Yeah I had a feeling! I think my affinity deck just got a little less valuable but I'm hoping for some foils or alt art to replace the old cards with.
Shouldn't be by much if at all
Yeah... Idk part of me wants to see the cards drop, in the short term it's good for people entering the format and long term the cards will be just as valuable.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 27, 2013, 01:35:51 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 01:30:32 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 27, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 12:55:29 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 25, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
What's the chance the last mythic will be a land?  {Mutavault} ?  {Glimmervoid} ?
We got {Glimmervoid} and {Blinkmoth Nexus}!
Yeah I had a feeling! I think my affinity deck just got a little less valuable but I'm hoping for some foils or alt art to replace the old cards with.
Shouldn't be by much if at all
Yeah... Idk part of me wants to see the cards drop, in the short term it's good for people entering the format and long term the cards will be just as valuable.
It would be sweet to play a legit Modern FNM rather than just 12 people
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Falcon182 on May 27, 2013, 02:13:08 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 27, 2013, 01:35:51 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 01:30:32 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 27, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 12:55:29 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 25, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
What's the chance the last mythic will be a land?  {Mutavault} ?  {Glimmervoid} ?
We got {Glimmervoid} and {Blinkmoth Nexus}!
Yeah I had a feeling! I think my affinity deck just got a little less valuable but I'm hoping for some foils or alt art to replace the old cards with.
Shouldn't be by much if at all
Yeah... Idk part of me wants to see the cards drop, in the short term it's good for people entering the format and long term the cards will be just as valuable.
It would be sweet to play a legit Modern FNM rather than just 12 people

Come to my area... Channel Fireball Game Center has modern Mondays with 20-40 people and often has tournaments on weekends with 50+ attending.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 03:00:16 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on May 27, 2013, 02:13:08 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 27, 2013, 01:35:51 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 01:30:32 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 27, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 12:55:29 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 25, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
What's the chance the last mythic will be a land?  {Mutavault} ?  {Glimmervoid} ?
We got {Glimmervoid} and {Blinkmoth Nexus}!
Yeah I had a feeling! I think my affinity deck just got a little less valuable but I'm hoping for some foils or alt art to replace the old cards with.
Shouldn't be by much if at all
Yeah... Idk part of me wants to see the cards drop, in the short term it's good for people entering the format and long term the cards will be just as valuable.
It would be sweet to play a legit Modern FNM rather than just 12 people

Come to my area... Channel Fireball Game Center has modern Mondays with 20-40 people and often has tournaments on weekends with 50+ attending.
Well yeah, that's Channel Fireball. Not a regular LGS
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on May 27, 2013, 03:04:02 PM
I notice most lgs in my area have some dedicated modern players, but getting them all together for a bigger tourney is kinda tough. Sometimes the tournaments don't happen at all :/ things should pick up in a few weeks tho after MM.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Agarrita80 on May 27, 2013, 06:29:10 PM
Are these cards going to be standard legal?
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on May 27, 2013, 06:30:12 PM
Quote from: Agarrita80 on May 27, 2013, 06:29:10 PM
Are these cards going to be standard legal?
No
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Gorzo on May 27, 2013, 07:15:52 PM
Are there going to be basic lands in modern masters packs? If so, I'm curious about the art. New full art basics, maybe?

/bright-eyed optimism
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on May 27, 2013, 07:16:36 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on May 27, 2013, 07:15:52 PM
Are there going to be basic lands in modern masters packs? If so, I'm curious about the art. New full art basics, maybe?

/bright-eyed optimism

No lands. They've been replaced with 1 foil per pack.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Gorzo on May 27, 2013, 07:18:15 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on May 27, 2013, 07:16:36 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on May 27, 2013, 07:15:52 PM
Are there going to be basic lands in modern masters packs? If so, I'm curious about the art. New full art basics, maybe?

/bright-eyed optimism

No lands. They've been replaced with 1 foil per pack.

I guess I can live with an auto-foil instead :P
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 27, 2013, 08:04:14 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on May 27, 2013, 07:18:15 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on May 27, 2013, 07:16:36 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on May 27, 2013, 07:15:52 PM
Are there going to be basic lands in modern masters packs? If so, I'm curious about the art. New full art basics, maybe?

/bright-eyed optimism

No lands. They've been replaced with 1 foil per pack.

I guess I can live with an auto-foil instead :P
Seeing what's in the set, yeah, I'd say that's okay! Haha, I'd love to get some foil {Echoing Truth}s!
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 27, 2013, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: Potticus on May 27, 2013, 08:31:02 PM
INB4 that reddit post from the guy that's pack is:
Foil Goif
Goif
Kitchen finks
..
..

Wait what, i dont know what your post meant lol
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on May 27, 2013, 08:48:38 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 27, 2013, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: Potticus on May 27, 2013, 08:31:02 PM
INB4 that reddit post from the guy that's pack is:
Foil Goif
Goif
Kitchen finks
..
..

Wait what, i dont know what your post meant lol

He's calling it before someone claims they pulled a regular and foil {Tarmogoyf} and a {Kitchen Finks} in one pack.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on May 27, 2013, 08:51:50 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on May 27, 2013, 08:48:38 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 27, 2013, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: Potticus on May 27, 2013, 08:31:02 PM
INB4 that reddit post from the guy that's pack is:
Foil Goif
Goif
Kitchen finks
..
..

Wait what, i dont know what your post meant lol

He's calling it before someone claims they pulled a regular and foil {Tarmogoyf} and a {Kitchen Finks} in one pack.


I will pull that ;) lol jk i wish i had that luck
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Mikefrompluto on May 27, 2013, 09:09:30 PM
I'm selling off some of my more valuable record collection for some decent recording gear. I'm considering taking a gamble and buying a box of MM to see of I'd be able to turn a profit. Probably not though. Recent pulls haven't been too forgiving :(
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on May 28, 2013, 02:32:11 AM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 27, 2013, 08:51:50 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on May 27, 2013, 08:48:38 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 27, 2013, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: Potticus on May 27, 2013, 08:31:02 PM
INB4 that reddit post from the guy that's pack is:
Foil Goif
Goif
Kitchen finks
..
..

Wait what, i dont know what your post meant lol

He's calling it before someone claims they pulled a regular and foil {Tarmogoyf} and a {Kitchen Finks} in one pack.


I will pull that ;) lol jk i wish i had that luck
With three boxes, my fiancé and I are hoping to open something absurd. 2goyfs1pack
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 28, 2013, 02:33:50 AM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 28, 2013, 02:32:11 AM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 27, 2013, 08:51:50 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on May 27, 2013, 08:48:38 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 27, 2013, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: Potticus on May 27, 2013, 08:31:02 PM
INB4 that reddit post from the guy that's pack is:
Foil Goif
Goif
Kitchen finks
..
..

Wait what, i dont know what your post meant lol

He's calling it before someone claims they pulled a regular and foil {Tarmogoyf} and a {Kitchen Finks} in one pack.


I will pull that ;) lol jk i wish i had that luck
With three boxes, my fiancé and I are hoping to open something absurd. 2goyfs1pack
That would be amazing. It's kinda like only opening 2 if you think about it. Seeing as how the boxes only have 24 packs.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on May 28, 2013, 02:38:24 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 28, 2013, 02:33:50 AM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 28, 2013, 02:32:11 AM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 27, 2013, 08:51:50 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on May 27, 2013, 08:48:38 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 27, 2013, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: Potticus on May 27, 2013, 08:31:02 PM
INB4 that reddit post from the guy that's pack is:
Foil Goif
Goif
Kitchen finks
..
..

Wait what, i dont know what your post meant lol

He's calling it before someone claims they pulled a regular and foil {Tarmogoyf} and a {Kitchen Finks} in one pack.


I will pull that ;) lol jk i wish i had that luck
With three boxes, my fiancé and I are hoping to open something absurd. 2goyfs1pack
That would be amazing. It's kinda like only opening 2 if you think about it. Seeing as how the boxes only have 24 packs.
Yeah, wizards is sneaky. Charging more for less
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: scarsabrex on May 28, 2013, 10:26:53 AM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 28, 2013, 02:38:24 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on May 28, 2013, 02:33:50 AM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 28, 2013, 02:32:11 AM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 27, 2013, 08:51:50 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on May 27, 2013, 08:48:38 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on May 27, 2013, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: Potticus on May 27, 2013, 08:31:02 PM
INB4 that reddit post from the guy that's pack is:
Foil Goif
Goif
Kitchen finks
..
..

Wait what, i dont know what your post meant lol

He's calling it before someone claims they pulled a regular and foil {Tarmogoyf} and a {Kitchen Finks} in one pack.


I will pull that ;) lol jk i wish i had that luck
With three boxes, my fiancé and I are hoping to open something absurd. 2goyfs1pack
That would be amazing. It's kinda like only opening 2 if you think about it. Seeing as how the boxes only have 24 packs.
Yeah, wizards is sneaky. Charging more for less

Nothing sneaky, they outright stated they adjusted prices and box size in order to make up for the power of cards being printed.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on May 29, 2013, 01:52:36 AM
Really happy with the blinkmoth nexus art :]
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Avnger345 on May 29, 2013, 08:12:53 PM
It's ridiculous that msrp is 6.99, but not a single place has it for that cheap. Everyone else is selling it for like 10.99 a pack. Such BS!
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Falcon182 on May 29, 2013, 08:22:28 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on May 29, 2013, 08:12:53 PM
It's ridiculous that msrp is 6.99, but not a single place has it for that cheap. Everyone else is selling it for like 10.99 a pack. Such BS!

That's because most of the rares are worth more than $10, let alone the uncommons...
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Avnger345 on May 29, 2013, 08:39:33 PM
I understand that, but then I guess my complaint would be at wizards for making the msrp of 6.99.  Basically turns out to be a "rooster" tease. They should have came out and said its $11 a pack cause its limited production and want to rake you over the coals.   At least I have a place that's about 30 miles from me that's selling current block boxes for $80.  He won't say how much he's selling mm for so I might have to take a ride down to the shop next Friday and wait inline before he opens to see if mm is a good deal or not.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Kagain123 on May 29, 2013, 08:47:25 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on May 29, 2013, 08:39:33 PM
I understand that, but then I guess my complaint would be at wizards for making the msrp of 6.99.  Basically turns out to be a "rooster" tease. They should have came out and said its $11 a pack cause its limited production and want to rake you over the coals.   At least I have a place that's about 30 miles from me that's selling current block boxes for $80.  He won't say how much he's selling mm for so I might have to take a ride down to the shop next Friday and wait inline before he opens to see if mm is a good deal or not.

Actually, it's mostly about supply and demand. Small supply and large demand = high prices. Since this is a limited run set with a short production everyone will sell it higher than msrp. My lg is selling packs@10 also. Fine with me because I'm liquidating my modern and legacy to focus on standard as no one here plays anything but edh and standard.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: MuggyWuggy on May 29, 2013, 08:52:39 PM
Yeah my LGS aren't selling boxes. I'm probably just going to do a sealed draft or two whatever they hold, it just makes more sense than gambling at $10 a pack
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on May 29, 2013, 08:56:35 PM
It's this time I will implore everyone to join the Magic Online community. Queue up as many Modern Masters events as you have money for, and collect the set to play online. Modern Masters online sets will not be redeemable, so you can actually play Modern for the sake of playing Modern without the costs associated with it.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: #noided on May 29, 2013, 09:06:46 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on May 29, 2013, 08:56:35 PM
It's this time I will implore everyone to join the Magic Online community. Queue up as many Modern Masters events as you have money for, and collect the set to play online. Modern Masters online sets will not be redeemable, so you can actually play Modern for the sake of playing Modern without the costs associated with it.

I thought MM wasn't going to be on MTGO?
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on May 29, 2013, 09:11:59 PM
Quote from: #noided on May 29, 2013, 09:06:46 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on May 29, 2013, 08:56:35 PM
It's this time I will implore everyone to join the Magic Online community. Queue up as many Modern Masters events as you have money for, and collect the set to play online. Modern Masters online sets will not be redeemable, so you can actually play Modern for the sake of playing Modern without the costs associated with it.

I thought MM wasn't going to be on MTGO?

Contrary to that belief, it is going to be release the same day as Modern Masters paper. In general, Magic Online gets expansions and core sets 3 weeks after paper (as a compromise they made with Brick and Mortar retailers). But since Modern Masters digital will not be redeemable for a Paper set (similar to Masters Edition and From The Vault sets), it can be released simultaneously.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on May 29, 2013, 09:25:27 PM
In a bit of a "plug" (if there ever was one) I wrote a pretty decent guide for Magic Online (here. (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?topic=22936.0)) It highlights some reasons to transition online. Modern Masters will almost certainly make the online barrier of entry 40x lower then it is currently for Modern. Standard already exists as a desperately lower barrier of entry.

It basically all depends on why you play in general. The reprint policy is almost indefinitely a net "positive" for Magic players in general. If you play cockatrice, and don't pay for anything - it is a strictly worse endeavor. If you want to play the greatest in the world, and not deal with the type of players cockatrice brings (can't blame you) - then MTGO is in your future.

I'll also let it be known that I receive no money for the promotion of Magic Online, or any website I might promote in the guide. I'm simply a fan like everyone else. I just know {Tundra} costs $25 online, where it costs hundreds in paper. If not for the reserve list - online Magic would have nothing on paper. Original Dual lands (while eminently awesome) should cost that amount - as much as Standard staples.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Agarrita80 on May 29, 2013, 11:19:17 PM
Plus If you spend $40 and a season you get foil promos for free (
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on May 30, 2013, 11:30:17 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on May 30, 2013, 06:23:15 AM
I wish I could play MTGO, but they don't have a Mac client. Maybe I'll get a cheap PC just to play. I want to play it.

I'm kind of hoping they will make Modern Masters a yearly, or bi-yearly thing and that fetches will be in the next set. That's the hugest barrier for most people now I think that they reprinted the shocks.

Yeah, it's terrible the zendi fetches used to be 10-15 and now they have more than doubled. I find in my area people either just don't have them, or won't trade them. Was able to get my last two  {Scalding Tarn} from someone but that rarely happens. I still think we will get a reprint of the old ones before the Zendikar fetches.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Falcon182 on May 30, 2013, 12:04:12 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 30, 2013, 11:30:17 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on May 30, 2013, 06:23:15 AM
I wish I could play MTGO, but they don't have a Mac client. Maybe I'll get a cheap PC just to play. I want to play it.

I'm kind of hoping they will make Modern Masters a yearly, or bi-yearly thing and that fetches will be in the next set. That's the hugest barrier for most people now I think that they reprinted the shocks.

Yeah, it's terrible the zendi fetches used to be 10-15 and now they have more than doubled. I find in my area people either just don't have them, or won't trade them. Was able to get my last two  {Scalding Tarn} from someone but that rarely happens. I still think we will get a reprint of the old ones before the Zendikar fetches.

I really wish I had stocked up on fetches. I bought 3 onslaught  {Bloodstained Mire}, one was Japanese for $30. That was a good score. They all shot up fast... I bought an  {Arid Mesa} for $7 before the bump too but I wish I had loaded up on  {Flooded Strand} and {Polluted Delta}.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Ace on May 30, 2013, 12:10:46 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on May 30, 2013, 12:04:12 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on May 30, 2013, 11:30:17 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on May 30, 2013, 06:23:15 AM
I wish I could play MTGO, but they don't have a Mac client. Maybe I'll get a cheap PC just to play. I want to play it.

I'm kind of hoping they will make Modern Masters a yearly, or bi-yearly thing and that fetches will be in the next set. That's the hugest barrier for most people now I think that they reprinted the shocks.

Yeah, it's terrible the zendi fetches used to be 10-15 and now they have more than doubled. I find in my area people either just don't have them, or won't trade them. Was able to get my last two  {Scalding Tarn} from someone but that rarely happens. I still think we will get a reprint of the old ones before the Zendikar fetches.

I really wish I had stocked up on fetches. I bought 3 onslaught  {Bloodstained Mire}, one was Japanese for $30. That was a good score. They all shot up fast... I bought an  {Arid Mesa} for $7 before the bump too but I wish I had loaded up on  {Flooded Strand} and {Polluted Delta}.

Yes i agree! I had just started playing when the onslaught fetch lands came out. I had almost a play set of each and I was young and stupid and thought meh they r not worth anything so I get rid of them for like 6-7 dollars each....so disappointed in myself lol.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Birdbrain on May 30, 2013, 01:07:37 PM
Is there going to be a pre-release?
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 30, 2013, 01:52:46 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on May 30, 2013, 01:07:37 PM
Is there going to be a pre-release?
No, it's a different type of set altogether. Your LGS may hold a draft or a sealed event, but they'll be around $25-26 (draft) to $50 (sealed).
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Agarrita80 on May 30, 2013, 02:08:59 PM
Are fetches only good because they thin out your deck?
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on May 30, 2013, 02:11:53 PM
Quote from: Agarrita80 on May 30, 2013, 02:08:59 PM
Are fetches only good because they thin out your deck?
They grab almost any shockland (in some decks, the right fetches grab them all), they put lands in the graveyard, (which is important for {Tarmogoyf} and {Knight of the Reliquary}) they they trigger landfall twice, and yes, they thin out your deck.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Birdbrain on May 30, 2013, 03:28:04 PM
The knight could go well with {cosmic larva}
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on May 30, 2013, 03:31:31 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on May 30, 2013, 03:28:04 PM
The knight could go well with {cosmic larva}

{Countryside Crusher} ;)
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Agarrita80 on May 30, 2013, 04:09:36 PM
Interesting...very interesting!
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Langku on June 02, 2013, 09:51:03 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on June 02, 2013, 05:31:54 AM
I'd really like to play  {Countryside Crusher} and I know he's getting reprinted in Modern Masters, but he just feels not quite good enough haha. I don't know.
{eternal witness} (also in MM) makes him pretty darn good.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on June 02, 2013, 01:55:35 PM
Last rare was spoiled (I believe, don't quote me on that). Looks like we won't be getting  {Thoughtseize} or  {Noble Hierarch} I was hoping for at least one of those...

Oh well, set still rules
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: NyghtHawk on June 02, 2013, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on June 02, 2013, 01:55:35 PM
Last rare was spoiled (I believe, don't quote me on that). Looks like we won't be getting  {Thoughtseize} or  {Noble Hierarch} I was hoping for at least one of those...

Oh well, set still rules
All rares are spoiled. True.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on June 02, 2013, 10:50:24 PM
Quote from: Taysby on June 02, 2013, 07:36:47 PM
Maby they will downgrade them to uncommons or commons?!

Doubtful ...but I wish!
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Iandtormentor on June 02, 2013, 10:59:10 PM
Quote from: Taysby on June 02, 2013, 07:36:47 PM
Maby they will downgrade them to uncommons or commons?!
lol

Me: "dude look what I got!"
Friend: "what?"
Me: "my fifth {dark confidant}!!!!!"
Friend: "in 6 packs? How?"
Me: "they down graded him to a common." ^-^
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on June 02, 2013, 11:02:57 PM
Based on the cards they've choosen to reprint, one is lead to believe that the staples they missed ({Damnation}, {Thoughtseize}, {Noble Hierarch}) would lead me to believe a reprint is on the horizon.

Strictly speaking, a "Modern staples" set should indeed contain Shocklands, but they were very recently reprinted. So I believe those cards are vacant for a very specific reason.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on June 02, 2013, 11:10:55 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on June 02, 2013, 11:02:57 PM
Based on the cards they've choosen to reprint, one is lead to believe that the staples they missed ({Damnation}, {Thoughtseize}, {Noble Hierarch}) would lead me to believe a reprint is on the horizon.

Strictly speaking, a "Modern staples" set should indeed contain Shocklands, but they were very recently reprinted. So I believe those cards are vacant for a very specific reason.

Totally agree, wizards has other plans but I would have loved to pick up a few right now. I think it's safe to say they understand the demand for a set like this.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on June 03, 2013, 12:06:59 AM
My friend an I were discussing {Thoughtseize} in Standard. It's very possible we'll return to Lorwyn/Eventide on the next "Return" block. So after Theros.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on June 03, 2013, 03:29:28 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on June 03, 2013, 02:51:58 AM
Full spoiler up now.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg%2Ftcg%2Fmodernmasters%2Fcig

I don't think it's that weird. They're probably going to make this an annual (or bi-annual) thing, and need some clutch cards for next year.

Yeah, I saw! Very pleased with  {Paradise Mantle} the new artwork for  {Engineered Explosives} is cool too.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 03, 2013, 04:26:13 AM
Would've been nice for another new artwork for {progenitus}
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on June 03, 2013, 01:15:24 PM
Quote from: Taysby on June 03, 2013, 12:02:19 PM
Sooo... What are my odds of pulling a foil {tarmogoyf} in one box.

Anyone want to take the time and energy to find out?

And odds of pulling one in 1 pack while you're at it.

Probably awful odds of even pulling a regular. Moneekah and I have 3 boxes to open after the 7th we can let everyone know what we pull from each box. :3
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on June 03, 2013, 01:44:00 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on June 03, 2013, 01:15:24 PM
Quote from: Taysby on June 03, 2013, 12:02:19 PM
Sooo... What are my odds of pulling a foil {tarmogoyf} in one box.

Anyone want to take the time and energy to find out?

And odds of pulling one in 1 pack while you're at it.

Probably awful odds of even pulling a regular. Moneekah and I have 3 boxes to open after the 7th we can let everyone know what we pull from each box. :3



Jeez!!! Lol. I wish i ha that kind of money. If you pull any of the swprds or dark confidant and dont need em, pm me :) lol. Cause i sadly cant get any boxes :P
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Kaleo42 on June 03, 2013, 02:20:02 PM
I believe the full Rogue T3ch team will be able to make it to Vegas for the GP event.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: All-Mana Mania on June 03, 2013, 02:21:23 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on June 03, 2013, 02:20:02 PM
I believe the full Rogue T3ch team will be able to make it to Vegas for the GP event.


Lucky you guys lol. But good luck guys 👍
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Bozo_Law on June 03, 2013, 04:43:21 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on June 03, 2013, 02:20:02 PM
I believe the full Rogue T3ch team will be able to make it to Vegas for the GP event.

I would be going if I didn't live in doggone Boston that is 50 trillion miles away >.<
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on June 03, 2013, 11:28:04 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on June 03, 2013, 01:44:00 PM
Quote from: imthelolrus on June 03, 2013, 01:15:24 PM
Quote from: Taysby on June 03, 2013, 12:02:19 PM
Sooo... What are my odds of pulling a foil {tarmogoyf} in one box.

Anyone want to take the time and energy to find out?

And odds of pulling one in 1 pack while you're at it.

Probably awful odds of even pulling a regular. Moneekah and I have 3 boxes to open after the 7th we can let everyone know what we pull from each box. :3



Jeez!!! Lol. I wish i ha that kind of money. If you pull any of the swprds or dark confidant and dont need em, pm me :) lol. Cause i sadly cant get any boxes :P

Well we got a really good deal on 2 of them :D don't have $$ anymore
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on June 05, 2013, 06:35:12 AM
Quote from: Taysby on June 03, 2013, 11:38:53 PM
So is it possible to get a foil other than the "premium foil" that they include?

If so, my first booster will contain 2 foil {tarmogoyf}.  ;)
What do you mean? The foil can be any card from the set. Just like opening a foil from the other sets, except that it's always there.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: imthelolrus on June 05, 2013, 09:46:39 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on June 05, 2013, 06:35:12 AM
Quote from: Taysby on June 03, 2013, 11:38:53 PM
So is it possible to get a foil other than the "premium foil" that they include?

If so, my first booster will contain 2 foil {tarmogoyf}.  ;)
What do you mean? The foil can be any card from the set. Just like opening a foil from the other sets, except that it's always there.

I'd love opening a tarmy in foil but I'm realistically looking for foils for my modern affinity deck and I rly want a city of brass in foil.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Dudecore on June 07, 2013, 11:46:36 AM
Set has been fully spoiled. Unstickied.
Title: Re: Modern Masters (Baseless Speculations and Spoilers)
Post by: Leevai420 on June 10, 2013, 02:22:56 PM
How did {thoughtseize} not get reprinted in this set??? Wtf wizards.