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Title: I'm new to magic
Post by: Fredmtg on May 13, 2013, 01:31:13 AM
I am new to magic along with 3 friends of mine. I would love if you could answer a few questions. 1. Can you destroy plainswalkers with magic or creatures?...still not understanding exactly how these cards work in general.   2. If a card say target player gains life does this card mean it works on the opponent? I'm sure ill have more questions. Thank you, Fred
Title: Re: I'm new to magic
Post by: Keyeto on May 13, 2013, 01:37:50 AM
1) Planeswalkers can be killed a few ways. If you play a burn spell and hit a player (say with {Lightning Bolt}) you can redirect that damage to the planeswalker, if they don't prevent the damage somehow. When attacking a player, you may choose to attack the planeswalker as well/instead of the player. Blocking occurs as normal, and any damage done to the walker will result in a loss of that many loyalty counters. Also, "destroy target permanent" spells (such as {Bramblecrush}) will work. {Dreadbore} is a nice solution as well.

2) When a spell or ability says "target" it simply means that whoever is casting the spell or activating the ability chooses the target for the spell/ability. If you cast a spell that says "Target player gains 5 life" then you get to choose which player gains 5 life.
Title: Re: I'm new to magic
Post by: Destore117 on May 16, 2013, 04:37:25 PM
So I just got out my  {Sorin Markov} they could simply use  {Celestial Purge}
And it's gone?
Title: Re: I'm new to magic
Post by: MuggyWuggy on May 16, 2013, 04:55:20 PM
Yup
Title: Re: I'm new to magic
Post by: Pleeb on May 16, 2013, 04:55:50 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on May 16, 2013, 04:37:25 PM
So I just got out my  {Sorin Markov} they could simply use  {Celestial Purge}
And it's gone?

You are correct.
Title: Re: I'm new to magic
Post by: 5/9 Turtle on May 16, 2013, 05:03:50 PM
Could you redirect or target a Planeswalker with searing spear
Title: Re: I'm new to magic
Post by: Vyse on May 16, 2013, 05:06:45 PM
After targeting your oppenent you can choose to redirect the damage to a planeswalker yes.
Title: Re: I'm new to magic
Post by: MementoMori on May 16, 2013, 08:19:27 PM
That means if your opponents have hexproof or shroud, you can't target their planeswalkers with direct damage spells.
Title: Re: I'm new to magic
Post by: Kaleo42 on May 16, 2013, 10:19:09 PM
Exactly
Title: Re: I'm new to magic
Post by: Jessie G260 on February 26, 2017, 01:44:15 PM
Target player is the player you choose can be you or teammate, planeswalkers can be destroyed with creatures
Title: Re: I'm new to magic
Post by: Piotr on March 02, 2017, 08:29:19 AM
Quote from: SpectatingLurker on February 26, 2017, 03:54:01 PM
A nearly 4 year old resurrection of a resolved rule post?

So what? Our server have no problems with resurrecting much older threads ;]
Title: Re: I'm new to magic
Post by: Piotr on March 03, 2017, 05:03:11 AM
Quote from: SpectatingLurker on March 02, 2017, 10:00:57 AM
But if no one else cares I don't care

So you only care when people can see your actions, otherwise you feel bad about yourself? I met someone like you in primary school.
Title: Re: I'm new to magic
Post by: PMK on May 11, 2017, 08:28:58 AM
I was told when a spell targets a player, you can target a Planeswalker instead
Title: Re: I'm new to magic
Post by: redwolv on May 11, 2017, 08:32:05 PM
Quote from: PMK on May 11, 2017, 08:28:58 AM
I was told when a spell targets a player, you can target a Planeswalker instead
That's incorrect. Only spells/effects that deal damage can have their damage redirected to a planes walker
Title: Re: I'm new to magic
Post by: PMK on May 12, 2017, 10:39:03 AM
Quote from: redwolv on May 11, 2017, 08:32:05 PM
Quote from: PMK on May 11, 2017, 08:28:58 AM
I was told when a spell targets a player, you can target a Planeswalker instead
That's incorrect. Only spells/effects that deal
damage can have their damage redirected to a planes walker
So the spell HAS to say "player and/or  Planeswalker"?
Title: Re: I'm new to magic
Post by: redwolv on May 14, 2017, 02:40:49 AM
A spell can only target a walker when the walker falls within the targeting distinctions. {hero's downfall} and {utter end} can both take out a walker for example.

As for using something like {lightning bolt} to kill a walker see rule 212.9g, because of it you would shave 3 loyalty counters off of the walker.

212.9g If noncombat damage would be dealt to a player by a source controlled by an opponent, that opponent may have that source deal that damage to a planeswalker the first player controls instead. This is a redirection effect (see rule 419.6c) and is subject to the normal rules for ordering replacement effects (see rule 419.9). The opponent chooses whether to redirect the damage as the redirection effect is applied.
Title: Re: I'm new to magic
Post by: PMK on May 14, 2017, 02:21:30 PM
Thnx!