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Title: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on April 29, 2013, 10:24:36 AM

Black Vampires

75 cards, 15 sideboard


2 {Mutavault}
15 {Swamp}
3 {Cavern of Souls}

20 lands


4 {Gatekeeper of Malakir}
4 {Pulse Tracker}
4 {Vampire Nocturnus}
4 {Kalastria Highborn}
4 {Blood Seeker}
4 {Bloodghast}

24 creatures


4 {Mindcrank}
4 {Victim of Night}
4 {Thoughtseize}
4 {Bloodchief Ascension}

16 other spells


Sideboard

4 {Vampire Nighthawk}
4 {Go for the Throat}
4 {Captivating Vampire}
3 {Vampire Hexmage}

15 sideboard cards



Notes:

Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Bman0121 on April 29, 2013, 11:13:29 AM
 {Thoughtseize} instead of duress and distress
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on April 29, 2013, 12:32:13 PM
Quote from: Bman0121 on April 29, 2013, 11:13:29 AM
{Thoughtseize} instead of duress and distress
{Inquisition of Kozilek} is a much cheaper alternative.

Fetches could also be nice, so that you could get back your {Bloodghast}
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on April 29, 2013, 07:35:10 PM
{Victim of Night} over {Go for the Throat}.
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: abstractApathist on April 29, 2013, 11:39:36 PM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on April 29, 2013, 07:35:10 PM
{Victim of Night} over {Go for the Throat}.
I agree. I'd run {Victim of Night} mainboard but {Go for the Throat} on the side.
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on June 06, 2013, 06:49:30 AM
Anymore tips!!
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Wally on June 06, 2013, 09:15:04 AM
How about  {Blade of the Bloodchief}?
Also  {Bloodline Keeper} is actually really solid when he flips things go crazy
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Joshnoodles on June 07, 2013, 03:31:00 AM
Quote from: Wally on June 06, 2013, 09:15:04 AM
How about  {Blade of the Bloodchief}?
Also  {Bloodline Keeper} is actually really solid when he flips things go crazy
Blood keeper is amazing! I played in standard for a while and even by itself it can create massive amounts of trouble for your opponent.
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on June 07, 2013, 07:04:39 AM
Too slow. It doesn't affect the board when it hits and isn't going to help until latter game where you lose.
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on June 08, 2013, 05:40:58 PM
{Bloodline Keeper} is to slow!! And  {Thoughtseize} is £90 each
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Wally on June 08, 2013, 06:46:27 PM
Actually bloodline does help when he lands, if you have enough vamps out he can flip straight away, and pump them all...
Just sayin.
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Iandtormentor on June 08, 2013, 07:12:49 PM
Yes add keeper!
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Wally on June 09, 2013, 06:19:05 AM
Since you didn't like my last two suggestions how about any of these.
They all feature in my vampire edh deck.
{Anowon, the Ruin Sage}
{Bloodlord of Vaasgoth}
{Captivating Vampire} <- awesome guy
{Gatekeeper of Malakir}
{Guul Draz Assassin}
{Malakir Bloodwitch}
{Nirkana Cutthroat}
{Sangromancer}
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Vampyvyrus on June 09, 2013, 03:45:04 PM
Quote from: Wally on June 09, 2013, 06:19:05 AM
Since you didn't like my last two suggestions how about any of these.
They all feature in my vampire edh deck.
{Anowon, the Ruin Sage}
{Bloodlord of Vaasgoth}
{Captivating Vampire} <- awesome guy
{Gatekeeper of Malakir}
{Guul Draz Assassin}
{Malakir Bloodwitch}
{Nirkana Cutthroat}
{Sangromancer}
I love  {Gatekeeper of Malakir} and  {Captivating Vampire} these two cards are clutch.
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Silent1236 on June 09, 2013, 04:52:14 PM
{Gatekeeper of Malakir} for sure!  He's always been an auto-four-of in my vamp decks.
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on June 09, 2013, 05:03:23 PM
The  {Captivating Vampire} is in the side board!
I do like all the other vamps that were mentioned! But this deck is ment to win turn 4 as it is modern.
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on June 09, 2013, 05:05:13 PM
 {Gatekeeper of Malakir} is in the side board already!
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on June 09, 2013, 05:07:57 PM
 {Guul Draz Assassin} I have not of yet!! I do need a play set for my collection!
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on June 09, 2013, 05:09:58 PM
Wally, I'm still testing with the  {Blade of the Bloodchief}, it's working okay! But still need to test more!
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on June 09, 2013, 05:12:03 PM
With the  {Bloodchief Ascension}, the  {Mindcrank}s become amazing! And a win con!!
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on June 09, 2013, 07:27:40 PM
CbStrad I will test the deck without mindcrank! If may work better! I will see!
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on September 01, 2013, 08:58:44 PM
I did the test on the deck with out mindcrank and if did do okay but I won more games with it in the deck!
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on September 30, 2013, 12:21:53 PM
Now to foil out the deck!
And promo any card that can be!
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 30, 2013, 09:40:29 PM
{Thoughtseize} has dropped recently, so it is cheaper just for you.
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on September 30, 2013, 10:37:16 PM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 30, 2013, 09:40:29 PM
{Thoughtseize} has dropped recently, so it is cheaper just for you.

I have one foil  {Thoughtseize}! And a friend as two more for sale!  So I will manage it at some point! I'm worried about getting the 2x foil  {Liliana of the Veil} and the 19x foil zendikar swamps, 3x foil  {Cavern of Souls} and the promo cards I need!
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on October 09, 2013, 02:03:09 PM
I need to make this deck really competitive!
As my lgs is going to be doing a modem tournament soon!  I know there will be bant/ selenyna hexproof and Kiki pod
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Pirate John on October 09, 2013, 03:07:53 PM
Where are the {mutavault}s? You know, the 4/3 fliers when {vampire nocturnus} is on the field?
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on October 09, 2013, 03:33:06 PM
They are there(now) you must not have seen them! Lol :P
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Pirate John on October 09, 2013, 03:47:46 PM
Fetches are necessary for faster Modern play. They really thin out your deck. You don't really need them for your bloodghast tho. If you had a sac engine your could exploit, then yea you'd need fetches.
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on October 10, 2013, 11:38:31 AM
Yeah there is no sac in this deck. And also as this deck will be foiled out at some point it will be painful to my wallet to get foil fetches!
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Lyriczulu on October 10, 2013, 11:50:58 AM
Since you're going mono {B} you could always just use {Evolving Wilds} or {Terramorphic Expanse} since fetches can't get {Mutavault} or {Cavern of Souls} anyway.
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on October 10, 2013, 08:58:43 PM
Using Evolving and Terramorphic over the other fetches is probably the dumbest thing I have heard from this forum. And I have heard a lot of dumb things from you guys.
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Lyriczulu on October 10, 2013, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on October 10, 2013, 08:58:43 PM
Using Evolving and Terramorphic over the other fetches is probably the dumbest thing I have heard from this forum. And I have heard a lot of dumb things from you guys.

I forgot that they come into play tapped when fetched, but you don't need to be so rude about it. Regardless, other than increasing landfall triggers, Zendikar fetchlands have very marginal benefits in mono-colored decks for the amount they cost.
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Mlerner12 on October 10, 2013, 09:21:43 PM
Markov, Sorin
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Pirate John on October 11, 2013, 03:29:50 AM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on October 10, 2013, 08:58:43 PM
Using Evolving and Terramorphic over the other fetches is probably the dumbest thing I have heard from this forum. And I have heard a lot of dumb things from you guys.

Hitting land drops and thinning out your deck a bad thing? Lol. Talk about stupid
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on October 11, 2013, 08:42:35 AM
Quote from: Pirate John on October 11, 2013, 03:29:50 AM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on October 10, 2013, 08:58:43 PM
Using Evolving and Terramorphic over the other fetches is probably the dumbest thing I have heard from this forum. And I have heard a lot of dumb things from you guys.

Hitting land drops and thinning out your deck a bad thing? Lol. Talk about stupid
again, read what I wrote. Lands coming into play tapped. On top of that, basic lands. The other fetches give you the option to play lands untapped and can get dual lands.
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on October 11, 2013, 04:45:29 PM
Quote from: Lyriczulu on October 10, 2013, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on October 10, 2013, 08:58:43 PM
Using Evolving and Terramorphic over the other fetches is probably the dumbest thing I have heard from this forum. And I have heard a lot of dumb things from you guys.

I forgot that they come into play tapped when fetched, but you don't need to be so rude about it. Regardless, other than increasing landfall triggers, Zendikar fetchlands have very marginal benefits in mono-colored decks for the amount they cost.
because thinning the deck, having a better chance of a top deck, better vampire nocturnes plays, consistent threats, more potent chances of getting a mutavault or cavern, no going dead off of cantrips.

Really, why would you play monocolored in modern unless you're playing Merfolk? Talking about competitive here.
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on October 11, 2013, 05:02:03 PM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on October 11, 2013, 04:45:29 PM
Quote from: Lyriczulu on October 10, 2013, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on October 10, 2013, 08:58:43 PM
Using Evolving and Terramorphic over the other fetches is probably the dumbest thing I have heard from this forum. And I have heard a lot of dumb things from you guys.

I forgot that they come into play tapped when fetched, but you don't need to be so rude about it. Regardless, other than increasing landfall triggers, Zendikar fetchlands have very marginal benefits in mono-colored decks for the amount they cost.
because thinning the deck, having a better chance of a top deck, better vampire nocturnes plays, consistent threats, more potent chances of getting a mutavault or cavern, no going dead off of cantrips.

Really, why would you play monocolored in modern unless you're playing Merfolk? Talking about competitive here.

I like vamps! And I don't trust merfolk, there is something fishy about them!


And on a serious note, why is merfolk so competitive?
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on October 12, 2013, 10:09:19 AM
Number of lords. Blue control. Aether Vial speed. Merrow Reejerey shenanigans. Card advantage. 8 Lord of Atlantis. Phantasmal Image against midrange. Easy splash with B/W/R. Constant island walk with Spreading Seas. Need I continue to explain? Oh, it is only tier at best too. Unless you refer to legacy.
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Mlerner12 on October 12, 2013, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on October 12, 2013, 10:09:19 AM
Number of lords. Blue control. Aether Vial speed. Merrow Reejerey shenanigans. Card advantage. 8 Lord of Atlantis. Phantasmal Image against midrange. Easy splash with B/W/R. Constant island walk with Spreading Seas. Need I continue to explain? Oh, it is only tier at best too. Unless you refer to legacy.
:P
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on November 20, 2013, 04:55:24 PM
Now have the play set of thoughtseize!
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on November 23, 2013, 06:45:52 AM
Edited the taken out 2x  {Liliana of the Veil}
2x swamp

Added 4x  {Pulse Tracker}
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on November 23, 2013, 06:50:43 AM
This does well against  {Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker},  {Birthing Pod}, tokens, infect, control. Small to medium-big creatures and  combo decks

Weak agents mass removal and pro black
Title: Re: Black Vampires
Post by: Teysa karlov on November 24, 2013, 05:49:09 AM
Quote from: ConanEdo on November 24, 2013, 03:18:18 AM
I don't think this deck is going to be considered favorable against any deck that doesn't mind a battle of attrition. Jund has more discard, a similar amount of kill, and better creatures. Pod has recursion and a large toolbox from which to draw answers. America has burn, answers, and {{Sphinx's Revelation}}. I think you murder the aggro matchup and it becomes a toss-up to more midrange and control decks. Tron appears to wreck you though...

Thanks for the great feed back! Any ideas how to make this deck more competative?

I'm still relatively new to modern!  I've brew lots but only played once!