Naya Blitz 75 cards, 15 sideboard 4 {Cavern of Souls} 4 {Stomping Ground} 4 {Sacred Foundry} 2 {Sunpetal Grove} 4 {Temple Garden} 2 {Rootbound Crag} 20 lands 4 {Champion of the Parish} 4 {Experiment One} 4 {Mayor of Avabruck} 4 {Boros Elite} 4 {Burning-Tree Emissary} 4 {Lightning Mauler} 3 {Frontline Medic} 4 {Flinthoof Boar} 31 creatures 3 {Rancor} 3 {Searing Spear} 3 {Giant Growth} 9 other spells Sideboard 1 {Gideon, Champion of Justice} 2 {Bonds of Faith} 2 {Fiend Hunter} 3 {Boros Charm} 2 {Gruul Charm} 2 {Nearheath Pilgrim} 3 {Thalia, Guardian of Thraben} 15 sideboard cards |
Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 24, 2013, 11:09:34 PM
Thoughts? This deck wins like 99/100 games i play. Ridiculously fast paced play. Currently at 3 won fnm's with a lowered version of the deck (no money = no caverns) but it still works.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on April 25, 2013, 03:44:21 AMSilverblade is awful trust me...
I think that {Silverblade Paladin} is better than the medic because he highers your damage count when he comes into play. Though if you find yourself playing a lot of mirror matches, indestructable is better. However, if you play control more, go with silverblade, since by the time they can sphinx's rev they should be dead.
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on April 24, 2013, 11:32:55 PMI would go 24, if it was a midrange
24 lands. 40% is just right for lands 30% i dont think will get you as much wins as you can get with 40%. Alsoneed more dual lands
Quote from: brybry723 on April 25, 2013, 12:09:23 AMI actually do run 1 in the main and one in side. But before i put them in i look around to see who i'm playing that night. People in my area like to camp thragtusks.
Might want to take out some {Rancor} and {Giant Growth} for {Ghor-Clan Rampager}. If you don't use the blood rush ability and make it til turn 4 it's an awesome beat stick. (90% of the time he blood rush the damage through to keep your guy alive)
Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on April 25, 2013, 04:43:43 AMTo boros blitz maybe; to naya, keep telling yourself that you will win and you may get a miracle.Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 24, 2013, 11:09:34 PM
Thoughts? This deck wins like 99/100 games i play. Ridiculously fast paced play. Currently at 3 won fnm's with a lowered version of the deck (no money = no caverns) but it still works.
99/100? Lmao I don't see how that's an accurate stat, my RUG deck beats Blitz 2/3 games, and really stops I after boarding. Rootborn defenses might be a great sideboard to avoid losing to a {supreme verdict}
Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 25, 2013, 06:41:23 AMQuote from: Wsuryanjeska on April 25, 2013, 04:43:43 AMTo boros blitz maybe; to naya, keep telling yourself that you will win and you may get a miracle.Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 24, 2013, 11:09:34 PM
Thoughts? This deck wins like 99/100 games i play. Ridiculously fast paced play. Currently at 3 won fnm's with a lowered version of the deck (no money = no caverns) but it still works.
99/100? Lmao I don't see how that's an accurate stat, my RUG deck beats Blitz 2/3 games, and really stops I after boarding. Rootborn defenses might be a great sideboard to avoid losing to a {supreme verdict}
Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on April 25, 2013, 06:49:07 PMI could give less than 2 .poo. about your rug deck, go check what type won the grand prix. It's very consistent btw ask therobsta or go look at some of his games with me.Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 25, 2013, 06:41:23 AMQuote from: Wsuryanjeska on April 25, 2013, 04:43:43 AMTo boros blitz maybe; to naya, keep telling yourself that you will win and you may get a miracle.Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 24, 2013, 11:09:34 PM
Thoughts? This deck wins like 99/100 games i play. Ridiculously fast paced play. Currently at 3 won fnm's with a lowered version of the deck (no money = no caverns) but it still works.
99/100? Lmao I don't see how that's an accurate stat, my RUG deck beats Blitz 2/3 games, and really stops I after boarding. Rootborn defenses might be a great sideboard to avoid losing to a {supreme verdict}
It is a horrible statistic, Jordan here is absolutely right. The last deck I played with was blitz, and it's simply just too inconsistent compared to midrange/control. Half of my meta actually turned into blitz decks for a while, and I made my RUG control deck specifically to beat them (took 1st twice and 3rd twice). Go take a look at it and you might actually learn a thing or two about making a sideboard ;)
Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 25, 2013, 08:28:36 PMCareful bud, you're coming of like quite the jerk:/ and yeah the deck can work quite well. I also believe that it has some bad matchups just like any other deck. So the 99/100 statistic just depends on your Fnm's meta I guess. Nice deck though, very well built(:Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on April 25, 2013, 06:49:07 PMI could give less than 2 shits about your rug deck, go check what type won the grand prix. It's very consistent btw ask therobsta or go look at some of his games with me.Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 25, 2013, 06:41:23 AMQuote from: Wsuryanjeska on April 25, 2013, 04:43:43 AMTo boros blitz maybe; to naya, keep telling yourself that you will win and you may get a miracle.Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 24, 2013, 11:09:34 PM
Thoughts? This deck wins like 99/100 games i play. Ridiculously fast paced play. Currently at 3 won fnm's with a lowered version of the deck (no money = no caverns) but it still works.
99/100? Lmao I don't see how that's an accurate stat, my RUG deck beats Blitz 2/3 games, and really stops I after boarding. Rootborn defenses might be a great sideboard to avoid losing to a {supreme verdict}
It is a horrible statistic, Jordan here is absolutely right. The last deck I played with was blitz, and it's simply just too inconsistent compared to midrange/control. Half of my meta actually turned into blitz decks for a while, and I made my RUG control deck specifically to beat them (took 1st twice and 3rd twice). Go take a look at it and you might actually learn a thing or two about making a sideboard ;)
And 99/100 isnt a bad statistic, i actually got that at our local game store over 4 fnms. (Lost to a 5 color control).
Ghor clan is in the deck btw everyone i just forgot to type it when making the list...
Quote from: Therobsta12 on April 25, 2013, 08:41:50 PMI know, but how am i supposed to react when some dick kid insists that he has a much better deck, and then says that there is no way for me to beat him? If it was constructive criticism sure, go ahead and post it, but he was bragging. I found his deck, it's not great to begin with. Just saw it as a slap in the face is all.Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 25, 2013, 08:28:36 PMCareful bud, you're coming of like quite the jerk:/ and yeah the deck can work quite well. I also believe that it has some bad matchups just like any other deck. So the 99/100 statistic just depends on your Fnm's meta I guess. Nice deck though, very well built(:Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on April 25, 2013, 06:49:07 PMI could give less than 2 shits about your rug deck, go check what type won the grand prix. It's very consistent btw ask therobsta or go look at some of his games with me.Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 25, 2013, 06:41:23 AMQuote from: Wsuryanjeska on April 25, 2013, 04:43:43 AMTo boros blitz maybe; to naya, keep telling yourself that you will win and you may get a miracle.Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 24, 2013, 11:09:34 PM
Thoughts? This deck wins like 99/100 games i play. Ridiculously fast paced play. Currently at 3 won fnm's with a lowered version of the deck (no money = no caverns) but it still works.
99/100? Lmao I don't see how that's an accurate stat, my RUG deck beats Blitz 2/3 games, and really stops I after boarding. Rootborn defenses might be a great sideboard to avoid losing to a {supreme verdict}
It is a horrible statistic, Jordan here is absolutely right. The last deck I played with was blitz, and it's simply just too inconsistent compared to midrange/control. Half of my meta actually turned into blitz decks for a while, and I made my RUG control deck specifically to beat them (took 1st twice and 3rd twice). Go take a look at it and you might actually learn a thing or two about making a sideboard ;)
And 99/100 isnt a bad statistic, i actually got that at our local game store over 4 fnms. (Lost to a 5 color control).
Ghor clan is in the deck btw everyone i just forgot to type it when making the list...
Quote from: MisterJH on April 25, 2013, 10:15:17 PMNobody is arguing...
Please people. Lets act a little bit older than 7. 12 is a good age to aim for. Like the previous person said, you are BOTH WRONG.
Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 25, 2013, 10:16:57 PMI didn't say arguing. But continue as you wish, it's all the same to me.Quote from: MisterJH on April 25, 2013, 10:15:17 PMNobody is arguing...
Please people. Lets act a little bit older than 7. 12 is a good age to aim for. Like the previous person said, you are BOTH WRONG.
Quote from: MisterJH on April 25, 2013, 10:24:22 PMAt this very moment... You are the only one still complaining/posting other than myself responding.Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 25, 2013, 10:16:57 PMI didn't say arguing. But continue as you wish, it's all the same to me.Quote from: MisterJH on April 25, 2013, 10:15:17 PMNobody is arguing...
Please people. Lets act a little bit older than 7. 12 is a good age to aim for. Like the previous person said, you are BOTH WRONG.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on April 25, 2013, 03:44:21 AMAgreed
I think that {Silverblade Paladin} is better than the medic because he highers your damage count when he comes into play. Though if you find yourself playing a lot of mirror matches, indestructable is better. However, if you play control more, go with silverblade, since by the time they can sphinx's rev they should be dead.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on April 26, 2013, 12:40:19 PM
I am sorely dissapointed with this thread for a multitude of reasons but mainly because in almost two full pages not a single truly constructive thing has been stated.
First off, blitz is an amazing aggro deck, I havent seen anything that consistantly fast since zendikar goblin RDW. That being said, it functions on low mana, unimportant creatures each doing their own work so if one falls the others dont care (this is why silver should never be run in a blitz, not to mention double white can stall you sometimes and that is a ticket to a loss), and it's lethal damage potential falls before any other deck can stablize fully.
The hardest parts of playing blitz are when to mulligan and what to change to fit your meta.
In my meta only two people can pilot blitz well enough to get it to top 8 and I do it using a midrange build that beats what blitz loses two and then sideboard into true blitz for game two. The other guy is a great player and judge and plays a traditional blitz when he does play. Since I can and have piloted this fine tuned deck to the top I can with full confidence make suggestions to a difficult to improve deck.
The true problem I see with net decks it how people react to them, not that they exist. Did you know circular wheels have been tested by many people and are said to perform better than square ones or any other shape? Infact they have been so well tested that it is very difficult for anyone, let alone the general masses, to improve on it's design. Please though, if you feel you can do it better or simply dont respect people who use wheels then either go figure out a better wheel, shut up and us it, or learn how to make a freaking jet pack that even the people making wheels will be impressed with (but know youll probably fall on your face a lot while you try to perfect that jet pack).
That is my view on net decks via metaphor.
The 99/100 thing is an unnecessary statement that without in person credentials is ticket to trolling. That's just the nature of the internet, especially with a group that can and does disprove that style of deck having that kind of record. Blitz is good but people are learning to beat it more effectively every day.
As far as constructive statements go (you will get these if you post and dont incite trolling unless you specificaly state this is just for others to referance) i mostly have dragon's maze suggestions.
{Zhur-Taa Druid} will allow for slightly more midrange options like huntmaster and hellrider while not lowering the max damage potential more than point or two if at all on turn 3. As the meta evolves I believe blitz will only survive if it has access to midrange either in board or in a few slots main.
{Legion's Initiative} obviously, but as far as the amount go i am not sure. Plus one power to shaman, waif, mauler and whatever else will be great as well as having {boros charm} like additions. Which I thin you should consider more and more as the meta forces that midrange sub theme.
{Voice of resurgence} wont be cheap or even necessary, but a two drop {doomed traveler} that craps dudes who get bigger than the rest of your board seems good.
{Ghor clan rampager} it's a meta call really, excessive spot removal says this is a bad idea while excessive ramp into bigger dudes says you need it.
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on April 27, 2013, 12:09:38 PMI did last night, still beat him 2/1
99/100 maybe you should
Play against
Someone who plays junk rites well.
Quote from: Dudecore on April 27, 2013, 09:32:11 PMif the meta is heavy control then i run 3-4 main board and take out thrag
I can beat Rites. Most of the time (not all) I don't have a problem with that matchup. I do have a problem if I get my lands grenaded by {Acidic Slime}, but that is usually post board.
Quote from: Potticus on April 27, 2013, 07:47:32 PMDo i give a flying .love. what your store has? Nope, and not once did i mention that apl of these games were in tournament format. I played 100 games, Casual and fnm standard, and happened to win 99 of them. Just because you dont believe me doesnt give you the right to bash me or my deck based on personal opinions. I have the record, enough said. I dont care what you think happened or didnt happen.Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on April 27, 2013, 12:09:38 PM
99/100 maybe you should
Play against
Someone who plays junk rites well.
I've never dropped a game to naya blitz with junk rites. I'm 3-0 matches.
I'm also 3-0 playing my brew of esper control. I usually 2-1 them however.
As far as 99/100, that's a laugh. Obviously not a real statistic. Magic is a game of numbers, mathematically there are games where you will be mana flooded, or never draw one. It happens to everyone.
Also, naya blitz has yet to win first at my store, I guess that's what happens when you have quality players like multiple SCG top8ers and winners as well as a guy that just qualified for the pro tour.
My personal favorite game I had against blitz was holding them off one one cycle of rites, 1 centaur healer and a resto angle until I hit serenity and won.
Naya blitz is in no way consistent, nothing that runs 24 lands ever is. My esper control isn't even consistent.
You got your 99/100 statistic out of 4 fnm's. so that's 25 games an FNM or 8 and 1/3 rounds an FNM. Man that's one hell of a store.
Going 4-0 at an FNM doesn't mean your deck is the greatest thing ever. It's all dependent on matchups and people you play.
Quote from: MisterJH on April 29, 2013, 01:00:43 PMMe either.. Why cant i just post my deck for the community without crawler trolls starting .poo.?
This is drama, dont want no drama drama
Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 29, 2013, 12:41:41 PMQuote from: Potticus on April 27, 2013, 07:47:32 PMDo i give a flying .love. what your store has? Nope, and not once did i mention that apl of these games were in tournament format. I played 100 games, Casual and fnm standard, and happened to win 99 of them. Just because you dont believe me doesnt give you the right to bash me or my deck based on personal opinions. I have the record, enough said. I dont care what you think happened or didnt happen.Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on April 27, 2013, 12:09:38 PM
99/100 maybe you should
Play against
Someone who plays junk rites well.
I've never dropped a game to naya blitz with junk rites. I'm 3-0 matches.
I'm also 3-0 playing my brew of esper control. I usually 2-1 them however.
As far as 99/100, that's a laugh. Obviously not a real statistic. Magic is a game of numbers, mathematically there are games where you will be mana flooded, or never draw one. It happens to everyone.
Also, naya blitz has yet to win first at my store, I guess that's what happens when you have quality players like multiple SCG top8ers and winners as well as a guy that just qualified for the pro tour.
My personal favorite game I had against blitz was holding them off one one cycle of rites, 1 centaur healer and a resto angle until I hit serenity and won.
Naya blitz is in no way consistent, nothing that runs 24 lands ever is. My esper control isn't even consistent.
You got your 99/100 statistic out of 4 fnm's. so that's 25 games an FNM or 8 and 1/3 rounds an FNM. Man that's one hell of a store.
Going 4-0 at an FNM doesn't mean your deck is the greatest thing ever. It's all dependent on matchups and people you play.
Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on April 29, 2013, 01:35:42 PMYeah i just meant casual games, srry for the confusion.Quote from: Opticarrow8 on April 29, 2013, 12:41:41 PMQuote from: Potticus on April 27, 2013, 07:47:32 PMDo i give a flying .love. what your store has? Nope, and not once did i mention that apl of these games were in tournament format. I played 100 games, Casual and fnm standard, and happened to win 99 of them. Just because you dont believe me doesnt give you the right to bash me or my deck based on personal opinions. I have the record, enough said. I dont care what you think happened or didnt happen.Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on April 27, 2013, 12:09:38 PM
99/100 maybe you should
Play against
Someone who plays junk rites well.
I've never dropped a game to naya blitz with junk rites. I'm 3-0 matches.
I'm also 3-0 playing my brew of esper control. I usually 2-1 them however.
As far as 99/100, that's a laugh. Obviously not a real statistic. Magic is a game of numbers, mathematically there are games where you will be mana flooded, or never draw one. It happens to everyone.
Also, naya blitz has yet to win first at my store, I guess that's what happens when you have quality players like multiple SCG top8ers and winners as well as a guy that just qualified for the pro tour.
My personal favorite game I had against blitz was holding them off one one cycle of rites, 1 centaur healer and a resto angle until I hit serenity and won.
Naya blitz is in no way consistent, nothing that runs 24 lands ever is. My esper control isn't even consistent.
You got your 99/100 statistic out of 4 fnm's. so that's 25 games an FNM or 8 and 1/3 rounds an FNM. Man that's one hell of a store.
Going 4-0 at an FNM doesn't mean your deck is the greatest thing ever. It's all dependent on matchups and people you play.
Ohhhh, so you played 100 games against limited decks, now it makes sense. Well, good job I guess?