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Junk Reanimater 75 cards, 15 sideboard 3 {Temple Garden} 4 {Sunpetal Grove} 3 {Isolated Chapel} 1 {Forest} 2 {Godless Shrine} 4 {Overgrown Tomb} 1 {Swamp} 4 {Woodland Cemetery} 1 {Plains} 23 lands 3 {Angel of Serenity} 2 {Voice of Resurgence} 4 {Restoration Angel} 4 {Avacyn's Pilgrim} 2 {Arbor Elf} 2 {Craterhoof Behemoth} 4 {Thragtusk} 21 creatures 4 {Unburial Rites} 4 {Mulch} 4 {Grisly Salvage} 4 {Obzedat's Aid} 16 other spells Sideboard 1 {Corpsejack Menace} 1 {Vraska the Unseen} 2 {Voice of Resurgence} 2 {Arbor Elf} 4 {Abrupt Decay} 2 {Acidic Slime} 1 {Armada Wurm} 2 {Azorius Justiciar} 15 sideboard cards Notes:

Bumpo

I like your use of sorin in here!

Quote from: Mike_garzone on April 22, 2013, 09:02:14 PM
I like your use of sorin in here!

Thanks :)

I'm not sure what the point of  {Disentomb} is here. Maybe I'm missing something. But being a sorcery spell it just doesn't make sense. Maybe if it were an instant speed spell you could use it to play around any graveyard hate. I would just rather play  {Mulch} to get more creatures in the graveyard. Not saying its bad I'm just not sure why it is there.

I would take sorin out,IMO he just seems
To get mulched or grisly salvage I only think he is good
If you have a control heavy environment at your meta

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on April 22, 2013, 10:30:13 PM
I would take sorin out,IMO he just seems
To get mulched or grisly salvage I only think he is good
If you have a control heavy environment at your meta

That is why i run two. Im going to try to fit in  {Treasured Find} for it. But he is good because his ulty is kinda reanimaterish. He destroys almost anything and you get it for free

Quote from: brybry723 on April 22, 2013, 10:14:03 PM
I'm not sure what the point of  {Disentomb} is here. Maybe I'm missing something. But being a sorcery spell it just doesn't make sense. Maybe if it were an instant speed spell you could use it to play around any graveyard hate. I would just rather play  {Mulch} to get more creatures in the graveyard. Not saying its bad I'm just not sure why it is there.

I think your inclusion of disentomb is neat, allowing for almost infinite amounts of angels.

Quote from: All-Mana Mania on April 22, 2013, 10:34:14 PM

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on April 22, 2013, 10:30:13 PM
I would take sorin out,IMO he just seems
To get mulched or grisly salvage I only think he is good
If you have a control heavy environment at your meta

That is why i run two. Im going to try to fit in  {Treasured Find} for it. But he is good because his ulty is kinda reanimaterish. He destroys almost anything and you get it for free

Why bother running that. I would run  {Obzedat's Aid}. Instead of putting it into your hand it goes right to play. Plus it's more  {Unburial Rites}

Quote from: brybry723 on April 22, 2013, 10:38:18 PM

Quote from: All-Mana Mania on April 22, 2013, 10:34:14 PM

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on April 22, 2013, 10:30:13 PM
I would take sorin out,IMO he just seems
To get mulched or grisly salvage I only think he is good
If you have a control heavy environment at your meta

That is why i run two. Im going to try to fit in  {Treasured Find} for it. But he is good because his ulty is kinda reanimaterish. He destroys almost anything and you get it for free

Why bother running that. I would run  {Obzedat's Aid}. Instead of putting it into your hand it goes right to play. Plus it's more  {Unburial Rites}

That's what I thought

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on April 22, 2013, 10:40:13 PM

Quote from: brybry723 on April 22, 2013, 10:38:18 PM

Quote from: All-Mana Mania on April 22, 2013, 10:34:14 PM

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on April 22, 2013, 10:30:13 PM
I would take sorin out,IMO he just seems
To get mulched or grisly salvage I only think he is good
If you have a control heavy environment at your meta

That is why i run two. Im going to try to fit in  {Treasured Find} for it. But he is good because his ulty is kinda reanimaterish. He destroys almost anything and you get it for free

Why bother running that. I would run  {Obzedat's Aid}. Instead of putting it into your hand it goes right to play. Plus it's more  {Unburial Rites}

That's what I thought

But obzedats aid isnt even out. Once it is out i will put them in.

Quote from: All-Mana Mania on April 22, 2013, 10:41:10 PM

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on April 22, 2013, 10:40:13 PM

Quote from: brybry723 on April 22, 2013, 10:38:18 PM

Quote from: All-Mana Mania on April 22, 2013, 10:34:14 PM

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on April 22, 2013, 10:30:13 PM
I would take sorin out,IMO he just seems
To get mulched or grisly salvage I only think he is good
If you have a control heavy environment at your meta

That is why i run two. Im going to try to fit in  {Treasured Find} for it. But he is good because his ulty is kinda reanimaterish. He destroys almost anything and you get it for free

Why bother running that. I would run  {Obzedat's Aid}. Instead of putting it into your hand it goes right to play. Plus it's more  {Unburial Rites}

That's what I thought

But obzedats aid isnt even out. Once it is out i will put them in.

Yes when it's out. I assumed you would be using dragon Mae cards since the pre release is this weekend

Quote from: All-Mana Mania on April 22, 2013, 10:36:26 PM

Quote from: brybry723 on April 22, 2013, 10:14:03 PM
I'm not sure what the point of  {Disentomb} is here. Maybe I'm missing something. But being a sorcery spell it just doesn't make sense. Maybe if it were an instant speed spell you could use it to play around any graveyard hate. I would just rather play  {Mulch} to get more creatures in the graveyard. Not saying its bad I'm just not sure why it is there.

I think your inclusion of disentomb is neat, allowing for almost infinite amounts of angels.

Still don't get disentomb. Seems like a waste of space in the deck. Could you maybe explain why it seems so good. I'm just missing something here I think >_<

Quote from: brybry723 on April 22, 2013, 10:48:07 PM

Quote from: All-Mana Mania on April 22, 2013, 10:36:26 PM

Quote from: brybry723 on April 22, 2013, 10:14:03 PM
I'm not sure what the point of  {Disentomb} is here. Maybe I'm missing something. But being a sorcery spell it just doesn't make sense. Maybe if it were an instant speed spell you could use it to play around any graveyard hate. I would just rather play  {Mulch} to get more creatures in the graveyard. Not saying its bad I'm just not sure why it is there.

I think your inclusion of disentomb is neat, allowing for almost infinite amounts of angels.

Still don't get disentomb. Seems like a waste of space in the deck. Could you maybe explain why it seems so good. I'm just missing something here I think >_<

Ahaha ask coffee vampire. Im sooo tired to explain things lol

Quote from: All-Mana Mania on April 22, 2013, 11:05:14 PM

Quote from: brybry723 on April 22, 2013, 10:48:07 PM

Quote from: All-Mana Mania on April 22, 2013, 10:36:26 PM

Quote from: brybry723 on April 22, 2013, 10:14:03 PM
I'm not sure what the point of  {Disentomb} is here. Maybe I'm missing something. But being a sorcery spell it just doesn't make sense. Maybe if it were an instant speed spell you could use it to play around any graveyard hate. I would just rather play  {Mulch} to get more creatures in the graveyard. Not saying its bad I'm just not sure why it is there.

I think your inclusion of disentomb is neat, allowing for almost infinite amounts of angels.

Still don't get disentomb. Seems like a waste of space in the deck. Could you maybe explain why it seems so good. I'm just missing something here I think >_<

Ahaha ask coffee vampire. Im sooo tired to explain things lol

So I'm not confused and it is bad? Or you just don't know why and heard someone else say it was so you agreed? I only say that because it doesn't fit in a deck when the point is to reanimate this not put them back in your hand at sorcery speed

Quote from: brybry723 on April 22, 2013, 11:29:55 PM
So I'm not confused and it is bad? Or you just don't know why and heard someone else say it was so you agreed? I only say that because it doesn't fit in a deck when the point is to reanimate this not put them back in your hand at sorcery speed

Maybe for things you don't want to waste your rites on?  {Centaur Healer}, {Restoration Ange}......{Arbor Elf}??   I don't know.  I don't really see the application either :-\

Sorin is pointless too. You can't use his ultimate until turn seven. That's waaayyyy too slow for reanimator. He comes out on turn four, which ideally youd have an {unburial rites} in the graveyard to flashback by then. I just don't see how he makes a difference in this deck.

this whole deck sounds to me like a Golgarian-like strategy. are we trying to bring back all dead creatures, or boost our living with our dead? my Golgarian deck has so many cards that can be stripped if all of their power once dead, and all of their power goes to another creature, if you have at least one creature alive at all times, and can last out a few turns, you can't lose! the key is just to always have SOMETHING alive, even if it is weak, you need something to carry all of those +1/+1 counters

you lose you accumulated counters, you practically lose the game, better rely on your acidic slimed and sleuceway scorpions and other deathtouch creatures in that case, and even then you better just be plum lucky if you plan to win

Quote from: IceScythe on April 22, 2013, 11:57:01 PM
this whole deck sounds to me like a Golgarian-like strategy. are we trying to bring back all dead creatures, or boost our living with our dead? my Golgarian deck has so many cards that can be stripped if all of their power once dead, and all of their power goes to another creature, if you have at least one creature alive at all times, and can last out a few turns, you can't lose! the key is just to always have SOMETHING alive, even if it is weak, you need something to carry all of those +1/+1 counters

What????? Did you read the same deck list as me? This is an attempt at a reanimator deck that does that job in a very uncharacteristic manner. And a very confusing one at that. All I'm asking is about a card that doesn't fit in the scheme of things. It's not a dredge or scavenge deck. It's reanimator. That's not the question at hand.

Quote from: Mikefrompluto on April 22, 2013, 11:41:53 PM
Sorin is pointless too. You can't use his ultimate until turn seven. That's waaayyyy too slow for reanimator. He comes out on turn four, which ideally youd have an {unburial rites} in the graveyard to flashback by then. I just don't see how he makes a difference in this deck.

Gonna have to agree here. Why drop a Sorin when you could take your mana dorks and centaurs and Reanimate a {Craterhoof Behemoth}? 

Speaking of hoof, I'd seriously think about running more heavy Reanimator target than {Angel of Serenity}. {Craterhoof Behemoth} is my go to. I even tried running {Griselbrand} and ended up tossing him in favor of a playset of hoof. Although, Grizzlewizzle is another awesome target. AoS is amazing, don't get me wrong, but in the end, she won't have the highest board presence, really.

And yes, you can twofer thraggy all over the place, but on turn 3/4, would you rather have a 5/3 beater or a 7/7 lifelink flyer or all the hoof shenanigans?

Quote from: Silent1236 on April 23, 2013, 12:09:09 AM
Speaking of hoof, I'd seriously think about running more heavy Reanimator target than {Angel of Serenity}. {Craterhoof Behemoth} is my go to. I even tried running {Griselbrand} and ended up tossing him in favor of a playset of hoof. Although, Grizzlewizzle is another awesome target. AoS is amazing, don't get me wrong, but in the end, she won't have the highest board presence, really.

And yes, you can twofer thraggy all over the place, but on turn 3/4, would you rather have a 5/3 beater or a 7/7 lifelink flyer or all the hoof shenanigans?

This. All day. {Thragtusk} was subpar in my reanimator build. If im reanimating, I want bigger, more flashy creatures. Although, thrag and his spawn is good with {jarad, golgari lich lord}.

Hoof is great but you want a few creatures to make him win. Thragtusk is great when facing down hyper aggro and need not only the 5/3 body and the 3/3 body when he leaves but having that 5 life gain is huge when stabilizing against aggro. It can seriously change the tide ofmthengame in your favors. Then you smashy with hoof!!!

Quote from: brybry723 on April 23, 2013, 12:21:04 AM
Hoof is great but you want a few creatures to make him win. Thragtusk is great when facing down hyper aggro and need not only the 5/3 body and the 3/3 body when he leaves but having that 5 life gain is huge when stabilizing against aggro. It can seriously change the tide ofmthengame in your favors. Then you smashy with hoof!!!

I do something sort of similar in my build. I start with {Deathrite Shaman}, {Centaur Healer}, and/or {Lingering Souls} and slam down a hoof after all that. I can definitely see the plus sides of using thraggy, but using cheaper alternatives like {Lotleth Troll} and {Lingering Souls} seems better due to CMC. All you have to do is hold off for a turn or two to rites something up. 5 mana just seems a tad extensive. Especially with an $11-12 price tag

Quote from: Silent1236 on April 23, 2013, 12:25:23 AM

Quote from: brybry723 on April 23, 2013, 12:21:04 AM
Hoof is great but you want a few creatures to make him win. Thragtusk is great when facing down hyper aggro and need not only the 5/3 body and the 3/3 body when he leaves but having that 5 life gain is huge when stabilizing against aggro. It can seriously change the tide ofmthengame in your favors. Then you smashy with hoof!!!

I do something sort of similar in my build. I start with {Deathrite Shaman}, {Centaur Healer}, and/or {Lingering Souls} and slam down a hoof after all that. Ican definitely see the lus sides of using thraggy, but using cheaer alternatives like {Lotleth Troll} and {Lingering Souls} seems better due to CMC. All you have to do is hold off for a turn or two to rites something up. 5 mana just seems a tad extensive. Especially with an $11-12 price tag

Precisely. There's better things you can do with five mana, and he's not even a decent rites target.

Quote from: Mikefrompluto on April 23, 2013, 12:29:48 AM

Quote from: Silent1236 on April 23, 2013, 12:25:23 AM

Quote from: brybry723 on April 23, 2013, 12:21:04 AM
Hoof is great but you want a few creatures to make him win. Thragtusk is great when facing down hyper aggro and need not only the 5/3 body and the 3/3 body when he leaves but having that 5 life gain is huge when stabilizing against aggro. It can seriously change the tide ofmthengame in your favors. Then you smashy with hoof!!!

I do something sort of similar in my build. I start with {Deathrite Shaman}, {Centaur Healer}, and/or {Lingering Souls} and slam down a hoof after all that. Ican definitely see the lus sides of using thraggy, but using cheaer alternatives like {Lotleth Troll} and {Lingering Souls} seems better due to CMC. All you have to do is hold off for a turn or two to rites something up. 5 mana just seems a tad extensive. Especially with an $11-12 price tag

Precisely. There's better things you can do with five mana, and he's not even a decent rites target.

Ideally you want turn 1 elf, turn 2 mulch/salvage, turn 3 hitting flashback rites into something in the yard. I'll gladly take a turn 3 tusk if I don't have serenity available to me. There are few things for 5 comic that aren't going to at best trade with Thragtusk but then your still left in a spot with a 3/3. Plus your up 5 life. I don't see why you wouldn't want to play him as a beat stick.

Why trade a thraggy for a creature when you can just remove it with {Ultimate Price}, {Murder}, etc?  With Reanimator, a 3/3 on your side of the field doesn't mean much besides an unnecessary chump. And gaining 5 life really isn't a big deal. If you aren't hitting your rites stuff, then I could see how thraggy could be useful.  But the deck should have enough filtering that hitting the rites stuff shouldnt really be a cause for concern.  This post is more based off of reanimating grisel or Angel or something. Hoof is a bit different. Every 0/1 and 1/1 is a threat then :P

Actually this post is more about why  {Disentomb} is being played. No one has answered my questions lol >_<

Quote from: brybry723 on April 23, 2013, 01:19:55 AM
Actually this post is more about why  {Disentomb} is being played. No one has answered my questions lol >_<

I don't know that anyone has figured it out yet! haha

Quote from: brybry723 on April 22, 2013, 11:29:55 PM

Quote from: All-Mana Mania on April 22, 2013, 11:05:14 PM

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Quote from: brybry723 on April 22, 2013, 10:14:03 PM
I'm not sure what the point of  {Disentomb} is here. Maybe I'm missing something. But being a sorcery spell it just doesn't make sense. Maybe if it were an instant speed spell you could use it to play around any graveyard hate. I would just rather play  {Mulch} to get more creatures in the graveyard. Not saying its bad I'm just not sure why it is there.

I think your inclusion of disentomb is neat, allowing for almost infinite amounts of angels.

Still don't get disentomb. Seems like a waste of space in the deck. Could you maybe explain why it seems so good. I'm just missing something here I think >_<

Ahaha ask coffee vampire. Im sooo tired to explain things lol

So I'm not confused and it is bad? Or you just don't know why and heard someone else say it was so you agreed? I only say that because it doesn't fit in a deck when the point is to reanimate this not put them back in your hand at sorcery speed

That's what I think.

Updated

I would recommend adding 2x {craterhoof behemoth} and 4x {mulch}

Quote from: Therobsta12 on April 23, 2013, 04:05:49 PM
I would recommend adding 2x {craterhoof behemoth} and 4x {mulch}

Actually i tried it and it works really good. I may add mulches somewhere and def. the craterhooves

I must say I'm in favor of dropping thrags in favor of 2 more {arbor elf} and 2 more targets such as {lord of the void}. What's your SB look like?

Quote from: Wackaman9001 on April 23, 2013, 04:58:01 PM
I must say I'm in favor of dropping thrags in favor of 2 more {arbor elf} and 2 more targets such as {lord of the void}. What's your SB look like?

I will update my sb right now

Just added my sideboard

Corpsejack does nothing in this deck, swap it for a {putrefy} when DGM drops?

Quote from: Wackaman9001 on April 23, 2013, 07:38:32 PM
Corpsejack does nothing in this deck, swap it for a {putrefy} when DGM drops?

Sure. I was thinking corpsejack for when the craterhoof comes. That would be a ridiculous combo

Quote from: All-Mana Mania on April 23, 2013, 07:40:15 PM

Quote from: Wackaman9001 on April 23, 2013, 07:38:32 PM
Corpsejack does nothing in this deck, swap it for a {putrefy} when DGM drops?

Sure. I was thinking corpsejack for when the craterhoof comes. That would be a ridiculous combo

That doesn't work at all...... Corpesjack only doubles counters and craterhoof dosnt give counters it give plus x/x and trample

Not
Trying to sound rude:)

You want to put some  {Deathrite Shaman} in the side board. They are amazing in the mirror

What about {lingering souls}?

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Quote from: Wackaman9001 on April 23, 2013, 07:38:32 PM
Corpsejack does nothing in this deck, swap it for a {putrefy} when DGM drops?

Sure. I was thinking corpsejack for when the craterhoof comes. That would be a ridiculous combo

That doesn't work at all...... Corpesjack only doubles counters and craterhoof dosnt give counters it give plus x/x and trample

This man is correct. +x/+x buffs aren't the same as +x/+x counters. I once had a five minute argument with someone at FNM about {skeletal grimace} and {corpsejack menace} before calling a judge over.