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Title: Reckless Brute & Blood Reckoning
Post by: Sovenrim on March 25, 2013, 01:13:46 PM
When player target attack me with  {Reckless Brute} he loose 1 life when I have  {Blood Reckoning}?
Title: Re: Reckless Brute & Blood Reckoning
Post by: Iandtormentor on March 25, 2013, 01:15:03 PM
Yup 👍 as  {Blood Reckoning} says when ever a creature atks you the take damage even if they have no choice

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Title: Re: Reckless Brute & Blood Reckoning
Post by: Sovenrim on March 25, 2013, 01:58:52 PM
Is that any creature that will not trigger abilities of  {Blood Reckoning}?
Title: Re: Reckless Brute & Blood Reckoning
Post by: Iandtormentor on March 25, 2013, 02:05:37 PM
Not any i can think of now
Title: Re: Reckless Brute & Blood Reckoning
Post by: MisterJH on March 25, 2013, 02:11:14 PM
Creatures that do not attack, otherwise i doubt it.
Title: Re: Reckless Brute & Blood Reckoning
Post by: Kaleo42 on March 25, 2013, 02:58:54 PM
 {Geist of Saint Traft}
The angel will not trigger the reckoning since it wasnt declared an attacker, it is made already attacking
Title: Re: Reckless Brute & Blood Reckoning
Post by: Sovenrim on March 25, 2013, 03:05:23 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on March 25, 2013, 02:58:54 PM
{Geist of Saint Traft}
The angel will not trigger the reckoning since it wasnt declared an attacker, it is made already attacking
But Geist is attacking...
Title: Re: Reckless Brute & Blood Reckoning
Post by: MementoMori on March 25, 2013, 03:35:45 PM
Right. Geist will trigger it, but the angel won't. So your opponent will lose one life even though two creatures are coming at you.

{Hero of Bladehold} works the same way.
Title: Re: Reckless Brute & Blood Reckoning
Post by: Sovenrim on March 25, 2013, 04:13:17 PM
Yeap, so there is no creature that will not trigger  {Blood Reckoning} in attack phase.
Title: Re: Reckless Brute & Blood Reckoning
Post by: Keyeto on March 25, 2013, 04:20:56 PM
Quote from: Sovenrim on March 25, 2013, 04:13:17 PM
Yeap, so there is no creature that will not trigger  {Blood Reckoning} in attack phase.
It only triggers when a creature is declared as an attacker. The angel token {Geist of St Traft} creates was a good example. Another one is {Kaalia of the Vast}; whatever creature she puts into play with her effect won't trigger it.
Title: Re: Reckless Brute & Blood Reckoning
Post by: Sovenrim on March 25, 2013, 04:57:26 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 25, 2013, 04:20:56 PM
Quote from: Sovenrim on March 25, 2013, 04:13:17 PM
Yeap, so there is no creature that will not trigger  {Blood Reckoning} in attack phase.
It only triggers when a creature is declared as an attacker. The angel token {Geist of St Traft} creates was a good example. Another one is {Kaalia of the Vast}; whatever creature she puts into play with her effect won't trigger it.

Yes but before Kaalia put creature she must attack (if I'm not wrong) and after this controler loose one life. I was asking about creature on battlefield with effect like Kaalia but without put this creature to attack.
Title: Re: Reckless Brute & Blood Reckoning
Post by: Keyeto on March 25, 2013, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: Sovenrim on March 25, 2013, 04:57:26 PM
Yes but before Kaalia put creature she must attack (if I'm not wrong) and after this controler loose one life. I was asking about creature on battlefield with effect like Kaalia but without put this creature to attack.
This is true, I was just giving another example of something that would work. She does have to attack, but you can still get an extra attack with her (well, the creature she puts into play) without taking the damage.
Title: Re: Reckless Brute & Blood Reckoning
Post by: Sovenrim on March 25, 2013, 05:22:44 PM
Returning to {Blood Reckoning} there is not written that controller of attacking creatures get -1 life for each attacking creature but only -1 for this action and doesn't matter if he or she attack with 5 or 1 creature, right?
Title: Re: Reckless Brute & Blood Reckoning
Post by: Keyeto on March 25, 2013, 05:26:33 PM
Quote from: Sovenrim on March 25, 2013, 05:22:44 PM
Returning to {Blood Reckoning} there is not written that controller of attacking creatures get -1 life for each attacking creature but only -1 for this action and doesn't matter if he or she attack with 5 or 1 creature, right?
If they attack with 5 creatures, they'll lose 5 life. The keyword is "Whenever". This means that every time a creature attacks, it sets off a trigger and life will be lost.
Title: Re: Reckless Brute & Blood Reckoning
Post by: Sovenrim on March 25, 2013, 05:41:41 PM
Damn, that's why I lost because we didn't know that. :D
Thanks for explain.
Title: Re: Reckless Brute & Blood Reckoning
Post by: Keyeto on March 25, 2013, 05:43:36 PM
Quote from: Sovenrim on March 25, 2013, 05:41:41 PM
Damn, that's why I lost because we didn't know that. :D
Thanks for explain.
No problem 👍
Glad to help out!