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Boros Battalion (need help) 75 cards, 15 sideboard 2 {Slayers' Stronghold} 2 {Sacred Foundry} 9 {Plains} 10 {Mountain} 23 lands 3 {Lightning Mauler} 1 {Boros Reckoner} 2 {Aurelia, the Warleader} 4 {Boros Elite} 4 {Legion Loyalist} 4 {Hellrider} 4 {Silverblade Paladin} 22 creatures 4 {Searing Spear} 2 {Ajani, Caller of the Pride} 4 {Boros Charm} 2 {Mizzium Mortars} 2 {Assemble the Legion} 1 {Aurelia's Fury} 15 other spells Sideboard 1 {Gather the Townsfolk} 4 {Spark Trooper} 2 {Firemane Avenger} 3 {Ash Zealot} 1 {Witchbane Orb} 1 {Séance} 1 {Mizzium Mortars} 2 {Righteous Charge} 15 sideboard cards Notes: I need help. I've been doing very poorly in every FNM so I am asking that on this and my other deck(Rotten Greens) if anyone can help and see what it is I am doing wrong with my deck building please. Ty.      This deck is designed to use the battalion ability and keep a large number of creatures on the bf. Cards like {Ajani, Caller of the Pride}, {Thraben Doomsayer}  , {Precinct Captain}, and {Increasing Devotion} are there to keep the Battalion going. The second part is to maintain a lot of haste using {Fervor}, { Hellrider} and many creatures with haste or soul bond to create haste, or Battalion.                       Chandra and some burn for direct damage and to try to limit opponent's blockers.   I will be adding 4 x {Spark Trooper} , 2x {Boros Elite} , and 2 more {Lightning Mauler} when I get them. Other cards are limited in number due to not having more (like {Ash Zealot} . Thanks for any time critiquing. I really need ideas and to find out why my deck making is so bad. At least I admit it lol.

I was thinking that I might put {Seance} in the deck as it might be cool to keep bouncing my guys back for a turn.

4 sacred foundries

2 aurelia's fury
2 gideon, champion of justice

Quote from: RevanJJ on March 07, 2013, 08:00:05 PM

Boros Battalion (need help) 75 cards, 15 sideboard 10 {Plains} 10 {Mountain} 4 {Sacred Foundry} 24 lands 4 {Ash Zealot} 4 {Legion Loyalist} 4 {Boros Elite} 4 {Frontline Medic} 2 {Firemane Avenger} 2 {Silverblade Paladin} 4 {Hellrider} 24 creatures 4 {Boros Charm} 2 {Mizzium Mortars} 1 {Increasing Devotion} 1 {Ajani, Caller of the Pride} 1 {Chandra, the Firebrand} 3 {Searing Spear} 12 other spells Sideboard 2 {Odric, Master Tactician} 1 {Chandra, the Firebrand} 2 {Sunhome Guildmage} 2 {Mark for Death} 4 {Righteous Charge} 4 {Martial Glory} 15 sideboard cards Notes:

I think if you can aim for something like this, you will get some more consistancy out of your deck. I needs to be dropping creatures often and swinging effectively.
Also don't be afraid to check out more creatures from the core set and previous block to see what's about.
For example,  {Odric, Master Tactician}

 {Thatcher Revolt} is a good way to trigger battalion when your opponents don't think you'll be able to

Quote from: Wally on March 07, 2013, 09:01:50 PM

Quote from: RevanJJ on March 07, 2013, 08:00:05 PM

Boros Battalion (need help) 75 cards, 15 sideboard 10 {Plains} 10 {Mountain} 4 {Sacred Foundry} 24 lands 4 {Ash Zealot} 4 {Legion Loyalist} 4 {Boros Elite} 4 {Frontline Medic} 2 {Firemane Avenger} 2 {Silverblade Paladin} 4 {Hellrider} 24 creatures 4 {Boros Charm} 2 {Mizzium Mortars} 1 {Increasing Devotion} 1 {Ajani, Caller of the Pride} 1 {Chandra, the Firebrand} 3 {Searing Spear} 12 other spells Sideboard 2 {Odric, Master Tactician} 1 {Chandra, the Firebrand} 2 {Sunhome Guildmage} 2 {Mark for Death} 4 {Righteous Charge} 4 {Martial Glory} 15 sideboard cards Notes:

I think if you can aim for something like this, you will get some more consistancy out of your deck. I needs to be dropping creatures often and swinging effectively.
Also don't be afraid to check out more creatures from the core set and previous block to see what's about.
For example,  {Odric, Master Tactician}

Cool, thanks. Most are below 4 just because I don't have 4, but I do have tons of M13 and RTR cards so I will do that. I have Odrc, well really all the M13 soldier cards.

Thanks again man!

Quote from: izik99 on March 07, 2013, 09:31:41 PM
{Thatcher Revolt} is a good way to trigger battalion when your opponents don't think you'll be able to

Didn't even think of that! Cool

Thanks to some trades I've been able to add a bit more consistency. Hopefully w more cards soon will be better. Hopefully going in the right direction.

This deck is really way too over the place to work. Chandra doesn't belong and neither does Fury. Fervor is plain bad because a creaure would be better 90% of the time. I think the reason this deck and the other are unsuccessful are because they're not aggro enough for aggro and not powerful enough for midrange.

Stromkirk noble or rakdos cackler

Quote from: loop-s-pool on March 15, 2013, 05:58:31 PM
This deck is really way too over the place to work. Chandra doesn't belong and neither does Fury. Fervor is plain bad because a creaure would be better 90% of the time. I think the reason this deck and the other are unsuccessful are because they're not aggro enough for aggro and not powerful enough for midrange.

Well my though process was to have them all have haste and hit hard and fast, autekia's fury because it can wipe out many of opponent's blockers and tap the ones it doesn't kill, the spark trooper to be used like an instant and Chandra to to do damage while some support cards like Precinct captain, gather the townsfolk and such help me keep Batallipn activated.
As I trade I'm slowly able to get consistency like getting 2 more Paladins and going to 4 of each major card so right now I think it's underpowered due to filler cards. Harnt actually played this yet but I agree.
What cards would you replace them with?

Quote from: loop-s-pool on March 15, 2013, 06:39:09 PM

Boros Battalion (need help) 75 cards, 15 sideboard 2 {Sacred Foundry} 10 {Plains} 11 {Mountain} 23 lands 3 {Frontline Medic} 3 {Boros Elite} 1 {Precinct Captain} 2 {Legion Loyalist} 1 {Firemane Avenger} 1 {Lightning Mauler} 4 {Spark Trooper} 3 {Hellrider} 2 {Silverblade Paladin} 2 {Ash Zealot} 22 creatures 1 {Fervor} 2 {Searing Spear} 1 {Ajani, Caller of the Pride} 4 {Boros Charm} 2 {Gather the Townsfolk} 2 {Mizzium Mortars} 1 {Chandra, the Firebrand} 1 {Assemble the Legion} 1 {Aurelia's Fury} 15 other spells Sideboard 2 {Gather the Townsfolk} 4 {Wojek Halberdiers} 1 {Witchbane Orb} 2 {Firemane Avenger} 2 {Righteous Charge} 1 {Séance} 2 {Chandra, the Firebrand} 1 {Martial Glory} 15 sideboard cards Notes: I need help. I've been doing very poorly in every FNM so I am asking that on this and my other deck(Rotten Greens) if anyone can help and see what it is I am doing wrong with my deck building please. Ty.      This deck is designed to use the battalion ability and keep a large number of creatures on the bf. Cards like {Ajani, Caller of the Pride}, {Thraben Doomsayer}  , {Precinct Captain}, and {Increasing Devotion} are there to keep the Battalion going. The second part is to maintain a lot of haste using {Fervor}, { Hellrider} and many creatures with haste or soul bond to create haste, or Battalion.                       Chandra and some burn for direct damage and to try to limit opponent's blockers.   I will be adding 4 x {Spark Trooper} , 2x {Boros Elite} , and 2 more {Lightning Mauler} when I get them. Other cards are limited in number due to not having more (like {Ash Zealot} . Thanks for any time critiquing. I really need ideas and to find out why my deck making is so bad. At least I admit it lol.

I don't feel like deleting all the comments so I made the edits I would reccommend. Competetive magic costs money and that's all there is to it really.

Lol it's a $220 deck average so yeah I'm aware of the cost factor.

Anyway, I've adjusted it.

Aggro Battalion 60 cards 4 {Sacred Foundry} 4 {Clifftop Retreat} 2 {Slayer's Stronghold} 5 {Plains} 7 {Mountain} 22 lands 3 {Frontline Medic} 4 {Boros Elite} 4 {Legion Loyalist} 2 {Spark Trooper} 4 {Hellrider} 4 {Silverblade Paladin} 3 {Ash Zealot} 2 {Lightning Mauler} 26 creatures 4 {Searing Spear} 1 {Ajani, Caller of the Pride} 4 {Boros Charm} 3 {Gather the Townsfolk} 12 other spells

From what is provided, minus the mana base, (which is something I recommend working towards before investing into expensive nonland cards, a good manabase is the start of a good deck!) I'd make these changes personally. Seeing as how you want to have your Batallion going, I'd say gear this deck more towards full on Aggro. Also possibly look into {Firemane Avenger}, she could simply replace your {Spark Trooper}s. Being able to {Lightning Helix} every turn rather than just once doesn't seem half bad. This is kinda what I've been trying to do with my girlfriends Boros Humans, it was a midrange deck with not near enough power for the title, so we're trying to make it more aggressive. We're also looking at {Gore-House Chainwalker}, he's not bad! I'd also look into {Champion of the Parish}, he's an amazing 1-drop for Humans.

Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on March 17, 2013, 07:45:52 AM

Aggro Battalion 60 cards 4 {Sacred Foundry} 4 {Clifftop Retreat} 2 {Slayer's Stronghold} 5 {Plains} 7 {Mountain} 22 lands 3 {Frontline Medic} 4 {Boros Elite} 4 {Legion Loyalist} 2 {Spark Trooper} 4 {Hellrider} 4 {Silverblade Paladin} 3 {Ash Zealot} 2 {Lightning Mauler} 26 creatures 4 {Searing Spear} 1 {Ajani, Caller of the Pride} 4 {Boros Charm} 3 {Gather the Townsfolk} 12 other spells

From what is provided, minus the mana base, (which is something I recommend working towards before investing into expensive nonland cards, a good manabase is the start of a good deck!) I'd make these changes personally. Seeing as how you want to have your Batallion going, I'd say gear this deck more towards full on Aggro. Also possibly look into {Firemane Avenger}, she could simply replace your {Spark Trooper}s. Being able to {Lightning Helix} every turn rather than just once doesn't seem half bad. This is kinda what I've been trying to do with my girlfriends Boros Humans, it was a midrange deck with not near enough power for the title, so we're trying to make it more aggressive. We're also looking at {Gore-House Chainwalker}, he's not bad! I'd also look into {Champion of the Parish}, he's an amazing 1-drop for Humans.

Cool ideas. Thanks bro. I have Champion on my list and I think Ajani will help a lot too. Especially now that I got that Hellrider, 2 more Silverblade Paladins, and 2 more Ash Zealots. It's slowly getting there. I have 4 Avengers but actually replaced them with the spark troopers as, when I hit and combo with the double strike Paladin gives, they hit for 12 w lifelink, haste, and trample. Then w seance out, I can do that combo basically over and over. But yeah Avenger is hard to go away from. I think of the Trooper doesn't work at all Tuesday, I'll go ahead and switch back. Just a fun idea I wanted to experiment with.

I def need Champion! Legion Loyalist and Boros Elite aren't the best 1 drops in the world for sure.

Slowly getting there! Thanks for the advice!

Quote from: RevanJJ on March 17, 2013, 03:39:05 PM
I def need Champion! Legion Loyalist and Boros Elite aren't the best 1 drops in the world for sure.

I'd you get ahold of the Champions I would run all 3 to be honest. They actually are pretty good 1-drops, {Boros Elite} can deal some very quick damage.

Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on March 17, 2013, 04:55:41 PM

Quote from: RevanJJ on March 17, 2013, 03:39:05 PM
I def need Champion! Legion Loyalist and Boros Elite aren't the best 1 drops in the world for sure.

I'd you get ahold of the Champions I would run all 3 to be honest. They actually are pretty good 1-drops, {Boros Elite} can deal some very quick damage.

Hmm what would you yank to go 4-4-4 with those 3? Or would you go 4-4-4?

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I def need Champion! Legion Loyalist and Boros Elite aren't the best 1 drops in the world for sure.

I'd you get ahold of the Champions I would run all 3 to be honest. They actually are pretty good 1-drops, {Boros Elite} can deal some very quick damage.

Hmm what would you yank to go 4-4-4 with those 3? Or would you go 4-4-4?

I think I would, or maybe more like this:
-3 {Gather the Townsfolk}
-1 {Legion Loyalist}
+4 {Champion of the Parish}

I don't know is you even need Gather once you get to that point, and Champion is a 4-of before Loyalist in this deck.

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Quote from: RevanJJ on March 17, 2013, 03:39:05 PM
I def need Champion! Legion Loyalist and Boros Elite aren't the best 1 drops in the world for sure.

I'd you get ahold of the Champions I would run all 3 to be honest. They actually are pretty good 1-drops, {Boros Elite} can deal some very quick damage.

Hmm what would you yank to go 4-4-4 with those 3? Or would you go 4-4-4?

I think I would, or maybe more like this:
-3 {Gather the Townsfolk}
-1 {Legion Loyalist}
+4 {Champion of the Parish}

I don't know is you even need Gather once you get to that point, and Champion is a 4-of before Loyalist in this deck.

Cool. Ty man! Gives me a good structure to work with as I get new cards and integrate them! That seems a lot more synergistic than what I have right now.

I got another {Assemble the Legion} and {Aurelia, the Warleader} tonight(I got ghost council and duskmantle seer too all in 4 Walmart packs lol) anyway, think I should yank the seance and put in the other Assemble the Legion and yank something else to have two Aurelia's in there?

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Quote from: RevanJJ on March 17, 2013, 03:39:05 PM
I def need Champion! Legion Loyalist and Boros Elite aren't the best 1 drops in the world for sure.

I'd you get ahold of the Champions I would run all 3 to be honest. They actually are pretty good 1-drops, {Boros Elite} can deal some very quick damage.

Hmm what would you yank to go 4-4-4 with those 3? Or would you go 4-4-4?

I think I would, or maybe more like this:
-3 {Gather the Townsfolk}
-1 {Legion Loyalist}
+4 {Champion of the Parish}

I don't know is you even need Gather once you get to that point, and Champion is a 4-of before Loyalist in this deck.

Cool. Ty man! Gives me a good structure to work with as I get new cards and integrate them! That seems a lot more synergistic than what I have right now.

I got another {Assemble the Legion} and {Aurelia, the Warleader} tonight(I got ghost council and duskmantle seer too all in 4 Walmart packs lol) anyway, think I should yank the seance and put in the other Assemble the Legion and yank something else to have two Aurelia's in there?

Two Aurelia's seems like s bit much without ramp

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Quote from: RevanJJ on March 17, 2013, 03:39:05 PM
I def need Champion! Legion Loyalist and Boros Elite aren't the best 1 drops in the world for sure.

I'd you get ahold of the Champions I would run all 3 to be honest. They actually are pretty good 1-drops, {Boros Elite} can deal some very quick damage.

Hmm what would you yank to go 4-4-4 with those 3? Or would you go 4-4-4?

I think I would, or maybe more like this:
-3 {Gather the Townsfolk}
-1 {Legion Loyalist}
+4 {Champion of the Parish}

I don't know is you even need Gather once you get to that point, and Champion is a 4-of before Loyalist in this deck.

Cool. Ty man! Gives me a good structure to work with as I get new cards and integrate them! That seems a lot more synergistic than what I have right now.

I got another {Assemble the Legion} and {Aurelia, the Warleader} tonight(I got ghost council and duskmantle seer too all in 4 Walmart packs lol) anyway, think I should yank the seance and put in the other Assemble the Legion and yank something else to have two Aurelia's in there?

Two Aurelia's seems like s bit much without ramp

That's what I was thinking. That 6 cost in what is essentially a low cost horde type deck probably would be a bit much.

I think you need to decide what is the main colour of the deck. Going from Champion to Ash Zealot to Silverblade is very tough on the mana.

If you go white, use  {Champion of the Parish} {Knight of Glory}  {Precinct Captain}  {War Falcon} {Thalia, Guardian of Thraben} and {Boros Elite} for the early drops.

If red, you want {Ash Zealot}  {Stromkirk Noble} {Rakdos Cackler} {Burning-Tree Emissary} {Lightning Mauler} {Stonewright}

I think the 3 and 4 drops are fine. Be sure to take 4  {Searing Spear} and 3-4  {Boros Charm} as well.

Quote from: Closing Time on March 18, 2013, 05:22:40 PM
I think you need to decide what is the main colour of the deck. Going from Champion to Ash Zealot to Silverblade is very tough on the mana.

If you go white, use  {Champion of the Parish} {Knight of Glory}  {Precinct Captain}  {War Falcon} {Thalia, Guardian of Thraben} and {Boros Elite} for the early drops.

If red, you want {Ash Zealot}  {Stromkirk Noble} {Rakdos Cackler} {Burning-Tree Emissary} {Lightning Mauler} {Stonewright}

I think the 3 and 4 drops are fine. Be sure to take 4  {Searing Spear} and 3-4  {Boros Charm} as well.

Cool Ty.

So u guys all think I should dump the 2 Mizzium Mortars and put in two more Searing Spears? I thought having the ability to hit a creature for 4, or overload and hit all their creatures for 4 was worth taking down the direct damage option by two due to the clearing of the blockers that card could produce.
But if you guys think the versatility of spear is better, I'll go w that.
Thanks again

Hey, I finished 5 th out of 20 people with this deck! Pretty good for me! Working for a trade to get Parish, but do have 4 Legion Loyalists now.
Crushed a lot of people using Hellrider and Mizzium Mortars cleared the board for me twice

Thanks for the tips all! Will keep trying to improve this

{Mizzium Mortars} saved my butt so many times! One time a guy had some wicked combo that allowed him to make tons of tokens, so on my turn I used overload and wiped his massive army out and hit with my Boros guys.
Basically it really came in handy against other Boros decks, even taking out {Aurelia, the Warleader}

I just go 4 {Slayer Stronghold} cards. Seems perfect for this deck. How many do you think I should add?

Quote from: Wizardmook on March 25, 2013, 07:08:26 PM
Would just use two at the most, they are good but could screw you over if you have too many as its all colourless.

Cool, thx.

Was worried about that as well if I went 4.

Does anyone think replacing the {Ash Zealot} cards with {Lightning Mauler} would be better? Would be less locked into that one color and would hand off haste.
Also was thinking of going to 4 total {Boros Elite} to speed the deck up.

If you want aggro then market is better than ash zealot.  Haste should be big for you to do damage quickly and attack every turn with as many creatures as possible.  You are also right about being easier to cast.

Quote from: Dmreiss on March 29, 2013, 12:46:44 AM
If you want aggro then market is better than ash zealot.  Haste should be big for you to do damage quickly and attack every turn with as many creatures as possible.  You are also right about being easier to cast.

Thanks. I made the changes(only had 3 Maulers) but hopefully my deck is more consistent now. Just need to score 4 Champion of the Parish and I'll be all set.

Just a suggestion but I would consider cutting out all {Assemble the Legion}. It's an awesome card but for what your trying to do with this deck it's too expensive and by the time you could play one comfortably you are either really ahead and don't need it anyway or too far behind and your going to lose. With this type of aggro deck you want to be as fast as possible and unfortunately getting one of those opening hand or even more can actually cost you the game. It turns into a dead card when it could be something else to get you over the edge. Hope that helps