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Title: Marked Cards, Legality
Post by: Jdogtoocool on January 19, 2013, 10:13:30 AM
I put little slips of black and blue colored computer paper on the insides of 28 different cards in my main deck and my sideboard. They're located on the front of the card. Is it against tournament rules? Also you can't tell they're there unless you look at the front of the card if course.
Title: Re: Marking cards
Post by: Hays413 on January 19, 2013, 11:10:44 AM
But why...?

Also no not cool. The fact that its done to only 28 cards suggests a system of marking. The arguement can be made you can tell the difference between them and therefor cheat.

But again... Why?
Title: Re: Marking cards
Post by: scarsabrex on January 19, 2013, 11:12:09 AM
I assume they are sideboard notes but... You can literally just use a note card to list your probable sideboard changes.
Title: Re: Marking cards
Post by: Coffee Vampire on January 19, 2013, 12:50:56 PM
Artistic modifications are acceptable in sanctioned tournaments, provided that the modifications do not make the card art unrecognizable, contain substantial strategic advice, or contain offensive images. Artistic modifications also may not obstruct or change the mana cost or name of the card.

The Head Judge is the final authority on acceptable cards for a tournament.
Title: Re: Marking cards
Post by: Jdogtoocool on January 19, 2013, 01:07:42 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on January 19, 2013, 11:12:09 AM
I assume they are sideboard notes but... You can literally just use a note card to list your probable sideboard changes.

I'd rather do this if its allowed, I'm doing this because I'm having trouble returning the cards in my sideboard from the deck back to the sideboard. I just tried this last Tuesday at a tourney and there was some controversy and a little bit more drama than I would have liked so that's why in asking.
Title: Re: Marking cards
Post by: Coffee Vampire on January 19, 2013, 01:15:36 PM
If the mark is on the front of the card only and it doesn't give you any strategy while playing, and does not restrict the view of mana cost, name, etc. then it is fine.
Title: Re: Marking cards
Post by: Hays413 on January 19, 2013, 01:20:58 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 19, 2013, 01:15:36 PM
If the mark is on the front of the card only and it doesn't give you any strategy while playing, and does not restrict the view of mana cost, name, etc. then it is fine.

But it's not a mark, it's slips of paper. Thus, however minimal the difference of thickness is, there is still a difference. One could argue that you can tell which cards are marked or not due to the thickness.
Title: Re: Marked Cards, Legality
Post by: Coffee Vampire on January 19, 2013, 01:31:53 PM
Woahhh I didn't catch that they were actual physical things he put inside the sleeves. Yeah...I would avoid that. Just memorize your sideboard.
Title: Re: Marked Cards, Legality
Post by: Hays413 on January 19, 2013, 01:34:48 PM
Or do what I do, different colored sleeve with a junk card and a price of paper with my sideboard on it. Quick and easy.
Title: Re: Marked Cards, Legality
Post by: Rass on January 19, 2013, 02:05:13 PM
Can't you just use a sharpie and mark the card side to help sideboard and aren't sideboards limited to 15 cards
Title: Re: Marked Cards, Legality
Post by: Coffee Vampire on January 19, 2013, 02:09:54 PM
Yes and yes. But if a sb card holds value, players may not want to sharpie it.
Title: Re: Marked Cards, Legality
Post by: MisterJH on January 19, 2013, 03:26:20 PM
Put notes in th sideboard cards and remove them when you sb in cards.. You can put all the notes you need in the sb, with the exact same result.. Just keep em in sb cards sleeves so that it wont matter
Title: Re: Marked Cards, Legality
Post by: Mikefrompluto on January 19, 2013, 03:29:06 PM
While its empty, push the sides of the sleeve together as to open it and allow access inside. Then, take a sharpie and mark on the inside of sleeve. Let it dry and insert card. You don't ruin a good card by marking it, and people don't complain about you putting slips of paper in the sleeves with your cards. Win/win.
Title: Re: Marked Cards, Legality
Post by: Hays413 on January 19, 2013, 03:46:26 PM
Just make sure the sleeve isn't opaque
Title: Re: Marked Cards, Legality
Post by: Jdogtoocool on January 19, 2013, 04:25:10 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on January 19, 2013, 01:34:48 PM
Or do what I do, different colored sleeve with a junk card and a price of paper with my sideboard on it. Quick and easy.

Ok this sounds odd and possibly usefull could you please explain this better?
Title: Re: Marked Cards, Legality
Post by: Rass on January 19, 2013, 04:44:44 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 19, 2013, 02:09:54 PM
Yes and yes. But if a sb card holds value, players may not want to sharpie it.

I was talking about the sleeve clear side.
Title: Re: Marked Cards, Legality
Post by: Hays413 on January 19, 2013, 05:09:29 PM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on January 19, 2013, 04:25:10 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on January 19, 2013, 01:34:48 PM
Or do what I do, different colored sleeve with a junk card and a price of paper with my sideboard on it. Quick and easy.

Ok this sounds odd and possibly usefull could you please explain this better?

Just take a spare sleeve, grab a land or token or something. Put er in the sleeve. Then write down your whole sideboard on a piece of paper, put er in the sleeve. Keep it with the deck. Then when your going to remove your sideboard and reset, just look at the list and match it up
Title: Re: Marked Cards, Legality
Post by: Jdogtoocool on January 20, 2013, 08:45:50 PM
Ok I got ya thanks