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Token White Black 60 cards, 0 sideboard 9 {Plains} 4 {Isolated Chapel} 6 {Swamp} 2 {Dragonskull Summit} 21 lands 4 {Doomed Traveler} 4 {Mirran Crusader} 4 {Memnite} 4 {Signal Pest} 4 {Accorder Paladin} 20 creatures 4 {Gather the Townsfolk} 4 {Lingering Souls} 4 {Rally the Peasants} 3 {Dismember} 4 {Midnight Haunting} 19 other spells Sideboard

This is almost exactly the same one first introduced online when DA cards were being revealed I just couldn't make it without adding in my {mirran crusader}s

Sorin!! Lol

Lol I would if he weren't 50 bucks

Memnites? It is not even a token and this is not tempered steel. Hero of bladehold?

Quote from: Appleguru56 on January 31, 2012, 08:07:07 PM
Memnites? It is not even a token and this is not tempered steel. Hero of bladehold?

{Hero of Bladehold}

{Stony Silence}

Kills {Ratchet Bomb}

I think if you are making a token deck you need 4x {intangible virtue} and maybe 2 {Thraben Doomsayers}.

Also, almost everything you have will die to a {gut shot}. I think you need a few beefier things that won't die to just 1 spell.

Quote from: Cllzzrd on January 31, 2012, 10:02:43 PM
I think if you are making a token deck you need 4x {intangible virtue} and maybe 2 {Thraben Doomsayers}.

Also, almost everything you have will die to a {gut shot}. I think you need a few beefier things that won't die to just 1 spell.

If he adds {intangible virtue} /{honor of the pure}, he should be fine. Also, what do you think of adding {Geist honored monk} or {champion of the parish}? I feel they could go well in this deck.

No champion, not a human archetype

Quote from: Validan on January 31, 2012, 03:54:34 PM
This is almost exactly the same one first introduced online when DA cards were being revealed I just couldn't make it without adding in my {mirran crusader}s

This is the budget tokens deck posted on the main wizards page. What it was trying to do at the time was build B/W Tokens without {Sorin, Lord of Innastrad} and cards like {Hero of Bladehold}. I think the deck looks good for a straight beat face deck.

Any tokens that are human tokens will buff the champion up. Drop the memnites and put in some champions. At least the champions will have other things that buff them up.

I dunno, facing a first turn {Signal Pest} with one or two {Memnite}s followed by a second turn battle cry dude would make me groan.
I'm not sure about your mana base though.

Quote from: Cllzzrd on January 31, 2012, 11:38:47 PM
Any tokens that are human tokens will buff the champion up. Drop the memnites and put in some champions. At least the champions will have other things that buff them up.

The only thing that spawns humans is doomsayer, and you can only have so many of those. Champion would most likely be just a 1/1 for most of the game

He has 12 humans in his deck as is, and then the {gather the townsfolk} as well...

Quote from: Alaskanice on January 31, 2012, 11:54:08 PM
He has 12 humans in his deck as is, and then the {gather the townsfolk} as well...

This isn't really a token deck, just humans with some token spawn. If this is to be a token deck, I would not use champion

{Doomed Traveler}, {Mirrian Crusader}, {Accorder Paladin}, and {Gather the Townsfolk} all are humans or produce humans I say that's alot when you have 4 of each.

Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on January 31, 2012, 11:56:18 PM
{Doomed Traveler}, {Mirrian Crusader}, {Accorder Paladin}, and {Gather the Townsfolk} all are humans or produce humans I say that's alot when you have 4 of each.

Exactly, if he were building a token dek, then I agree, no {champion of the parish}. However, in the deck's current state, a champion would work very well in it.

Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on January 31, 2012, 11:56:18 PM
{Doomed Traveler}, {Mirrian Crusader}, {Accorder Paladin}, and {Gather the Townsfolk} all are humans or produce humans I say that's alot when you have 4 of each.

A true token deck does not use those. (well maybe the doomed traveler and gather townsfolk)

Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on January 31, 2012, 11:56:18 PM
{Doomed Traveler}, {Mirrian Crusader}, {Accorder Paladin}, and {Gather the Townsfolk} all are humans or produce humans I say that's alot when you have 4 of each.

T1: {Champion of the Parish}
T2: {Gather the Townsfolk} swing for three chump block with two 1/1s

I say take out {Memnite} and { Ralley the Peasents} for {Champion of the Parish} and {Honor of the Pure}.

But like I said before I like the deck for just straight beat face.

Quote from: BlackJester on January 31, 2012, 11:47:10 PM
I dunno, facing a first turn {Signal Pest} with one or two {Memnite}s followed by a second turn battle cry dude would make me groan.
I'm not sure about your mana base though.

Kuldotha Red?

Hmmm, and that land base is really confusing... I would remove a few swamps... I don't see enough black to justify splashing that many swamps...

Wow I don't check the deck post for a day thinking no one was interested and you guys go crazy and make two whole pages lol

Quote from: Alaskanice on February 01, 2012, 12:34:33 AM
Hmmm, and that land base is really confusing... I would remove a few swamps... I don't see enough black to justify splashing that many swamps...

Just wanted to be sure I could flashback the {lingering souls}

One of the reasons why I didn't put either {honor of the pure} or {intangible virtue} in is because I didn't want to be stuck with dead cards, I know there's definite benefits but with {rally the peasants} it can end games very quickly

Quote from: Validan on February 01, 2012, 12:09:53 PM
One of the reasons why I didn't put either {honor of the pure} or {intangible virtue} in is because I didn't want to be stuck with dead cards, I know there's definite benefits but with {rally the peasants} it can end games very quickly

Honestly, I don't really think {rally the peasants} is that good. They can still just chump block your creatures, and up killing half of them while doing it because your guys have no toughness bonus.
Also, I'd drop the swamps and just have dual lands in there. The flashback isn't worth all of those swamps (maybe 4 lands that produce black mana) unless you add more black tokens to make it more token deck and less human.

10{Planes}
4{Isolated chapel}
2{Dragonskull Summit}
3{Swamp}
2{Ghost Quarter}
At least that's how I would have my mana base if I wasn't going to change the deck in any way.

Quote from: Alaskanice on February 01, 2012, 12:28:31 PM

Quote from: Validan on February 01, 2012, 12:09:53 PM
One of the reasons why I didn't put either {honor of the pure} or {intangible virtue} in is because I didn't want to be stuck with dead cards, I know there's definite benefits but with {rally the peasants} it can end games very quickly

Honestly, I don't really think {rally the peasants} is that good. They can still just chump block your creatures, and up killing half of them while doing it because your guys have no toughness bonus.
Also, I'd drop the swamps and just have dual lands in there. The flashback isn't worth all of those swamps (maybe 4 lands that produce black mana) unless you add more black tokens to make it more token deck and less human.

I see what you're saying but with all of the flying creatures providing lots of evasion they have a better chance of getting hits in dont they?

Though the constant stat bonuses can definitely come in handy for longer games...maybe I'll try both and see which works better

Thank lingering souls and sorin for making black/white tokens a deck. Sorin and hero of blasé hold obviously make this deck better, but I understand they are expensive. Obvious inexpensive choices are intangible virtue and perhaps Geist-honoured monk. When it gets in it will likely be too big to get dismembered, and having a few faiths shield will add a lot as far as protecting it, but I'm on the fence about that card. Increasing devotion could be a huge bomb, with intangible virtue it is 5 1/1 humans with vigilance, which is not bad at all for 5 mana, not to mention giving you the flashback threat. Just throwing suggestions, love the deck idea.

Thanks I really like the idea of being able to play a competitive deck that isn't RDW an doesn't cost you an arm and a leg