Ok people I'm tired of the price diffence with cards you need to remember that the site this app uses is a store and any store that is out to make money is going to place a high $ mark on new cards for real prices look at eBay lowest buy it now that's the real price example rakdos return 10-11 all day long lotleth troll 7.75-9 all day. So people please be more informed when u make an offer. Now I'm not blasting tcg on other stuff that's not new there pretty spot on but please price your rtr with other means.
Yea I had one guy wanting 15 for a promo lingering souls
His reasoning was it was promo so it's limited, but 12 extra dollars? No sir, sit down.
I don't care what this site says I go off starcity for all trades. It's the most common I don't care what other shops are selling for and if you want to use that price go buy it then and stop trading.
What does it matter as long as both players use the same source? It doesn't, unless you are trying to pay cash only. If everyone uses the average pricin of this app (which is very common) shouldn't really be any dispute.
Star city is the most fair accurate price. I agree.
Quote from: Willthomjr on October 17, 2012, 10:13:08 AM
What does it matter as long as both players use the same source? It doesn't, unless you are trying to pay cash only. If everyone uses the average pricin of this app (which is very common) shouldn't really be any dispute.
My thoughts exactly.
I find TCGplayer is generally the lowest average price and most consistent price. eBay is hit or miss and the prices fluctuate just as much if not more than TCG or other sites.
I am just curious how you can complain about someone else when I gave you an offer on something that matched eBay and TCG but you still valued it more without a reference to merit your asking price????
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Mhmmm maybe I will hit a wrong string by my post...
But if u r trading cards for cards then it doesn't matter which shop u will choose as a price list standard... The only one thing that matters is change ratio...
And that will be almost same even if u would use the most expensive shop's price-list... Only both have to use the same...;)
I hope u got me... that I expressed me clear... if not I can give u few examples...:D
I had a valid price for the wasteland I already have offers for over what I asked from you so stop Bering salty abought it and I just saying that its the new stuff that is priced unfairly on this site. Just compare the prices people that's all I'm saying. If you want to use this app then go for it but when I price new cards I use eBay even for the stuff I'm trading like overgrown I valued it at 13 were its around 15 or more on most sites. And if your trading rtr cards for other rtr cards it won't matter but if you are trading older cards for rtr your getting ripped off if you are the owner of the old cards. Look it up you can see for your self but no one should pay more for these cards then what there worth and if you want to be lazy or ignorant to the fair market value of these cards then enjoy the loss you suffer in a month or so when the format becomes stapled with one kind of deck makeing cards that arnt In It worthless.
That's the great thing about magic. Not everyone values the cards the same because of cards played in specific markets. Prices of NEW cards fluctuate because of standard. Plenty of cards plummet after cards rotate unless they have an impact in other formats. Most people just tend to use value of a card at this point in time. If you want to trade an {entreat the angels} {jace architect of thought} for a {gaes cradle} the person getting cradle is no doubt getting the better deal since the cradle will retain its value because of its play in legacy.
Tldr, trade a card for its value now in a equal standard of measurement (troll and toad, SCG, TCG, etc) and as long as you both agree, sweet.
Card value is relative IMO. I have three trafts that I value a lot higher then most sights say. You have an idea on what you want to value your cards and so do they. If you guys don't agree oh well. It's still a free market and people can make choices.
Personally, to me all this sounds like is you didn't get what you wanted from a trader and now you are upset and raging about it. As long as you use the same pricing it doesn't really matter regardless of new or not. You are almost sounding childish by complaining that someone didn't value the cards the same way you did.
Quote from: Rtace88 on October 17, 2012, 02:22:05 PM
Personally, to me all this sounds like is you didn't get what you wanted from a trader and now you are upset and raging about it. As long as you use the same pricing it doesn't really matter regardless of new or not. You are almost sounding childish by complaining that someone didn't value the cards the same way you did.
Amen...:D
Quote from: Cal8301 on October 17, 2012, 01:05:25 PM
I had a valid price for the wasteland I already have offers for over what I asked from you so stop Bering salty abought it and I just saying that its the new stuff that is priced unfairly on this site. Just compare the prices people that's all I'm saying. If you want to use this app then go for it but when I price new cards I use eBay even for the stuff I'm trading like overgrown I valued it at 13 were its around 15 or more on most sites. And if your trading rtr cards for other rtr cards it won't matter but if you are trading older cards for rtr your getting ripped off if you are the owner of the old cards. Look it up you can see for your self but no one should pay more for these cards then what there worth and if you want to be lazy or ignorant to the fair market value of these cards then enjoy the loss you suffer in a month or so when the format becomes stapled with one kind of deck makeing cards that arnt In It worthless.
Mhmm but honestly you cannot apply any price-lists on trans-format trades... It is always more on traders, their sense for trading and game, how they are willing to trade with cards... Cannot imagine that I would give u {Taiga} for two {Jace, Architect of Thoughts}.
Let's all calm down and just use TCG player mid pricing :D
Quote from: Xaol on October 17, 2012, 03:01:10 PM
Let's all calm down and just use TCG player mid pricing :D
Thats the logical decision. I sell stuff on ebay based off the average price on TCG and it ALWAYS sells. Listed two {vraska, the unseen}s for $22 and got $22 on each one. Listed {blood crypt} for $12 and got $12 for it. Theyve since gone down and up respectively since i sold them, but not by much.
Quote from: Rtace88 on October 17, 2012, 02:22:05 PM
Personally, to me all this sounds like is you didn't get what you wanted from a trader and now you are upset and raging about it. As long as you use the same pricing it doesn't really matter regardless of new or not. You are almost sounding childish by complaining that someone didn't value the cards the same way you did.
Not at all I got yelled at because I told someone a card was not near what they wanted for it so that's why I said people should do there homework and find a better price guide for the new set.
Lol someone yelled about a price. I break it down like this. I'm trying to get the best value for my cards and the least amount for yours. And the other person is doing the same. Then you neigoate price back and forth until you both agree. No hard feelings should happen IMO its just business don't take it personal.
Quote from: Rass on October 17, 2012, 04:22:15 PM
Lol someone yelled about a price. I break it down like this. I'm trying to get the best value for my cards and the least amount for yours. And the other person is doing the same. Then you neigoate price back and forth until you both agree. No hard feelings should happen IMO its just business don't take it personal.
When its a buck or two I agree but not over ten or more
What I thought this app values my cards higher than everyone else's, darn!
If all you have is rtr then yeah it does.
Ummm as long as two people use the same pricing format such as TCG, it doesn't matter. Because both their items are priced using that same source. If they over price or lower price, it still comes out even because both ends of the trade are equal that way when using the same source.
I use the average price provided here. I've never has an issue and if u check Amazon u can find most prices equate.
eBay, people can sell for whatever they want to and bid however they want. This is far more stable.
Never have had a problem. I like having even deals where both people get why we need and using this has been a fine way to do it and is comparable to LGS and Amazon so, for me, it works.
Yeah if you aren't using the built in card price feature for trading, IMO, you're either being a complete @$$ or you're just being dumb. It's right there people. Use it for crying out loud.
Quote from: Greg54js on October 17, 2012, 06:18:31 PM
Yeah if you aren't using the built in card price feature for trading, IMO, you're either being a complete @$$ or you're just being dumb. It's right there people. Use it for crying out loud.
agreed
I like the average price on here because it takes a large sample of prices. That way the highs and the lows are balanced out and you get a good idea of what you'd have to pay for a particular card in relatively good condition. On the point of RTR cards though, of course there will be fluctuation, but it goes both ways. If I had traded $20 worth of legacy cards for a {Jace, Architect of Thought} when they first came out I'd be stoked right now, even though in the long run the legacy cards may hold their value, I could still sell the Jace for double what I traded for it. I dunno, I think as long as people agree (or disagree) to a trade, there's no problem.
I give up trying to explained this to you people enjoy all the money you will lose in future.
Quote from: Cal8301 on October 17, 2012, 06:56:27 PM
I give up trying to explained this to you people enjoy all the money you will lose in future.
Very few cards will retain their value after rotating out of standard. That is a given. People pay or trade a premium for being able to get whatever card is hot in the tourney circuit, so fluctuation is inevitable. Once something better comes along or the new hot deck pops up, prices on some cards will rise and others will fall. That's part of the game... You can't expect someone to not try to trade for what they could sell a card for in cash because it'll probably go down someday.
I feel like I'm the only one who uses "potential trades" on here.
Quote from: Cal8301 on October 17, 2012, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Rass on October 17, 2012, 04:22:15 PM
Lol someone yelled about a price. I break it down like this. I'm trying to get the best value for my cards and the least amount for yours. And the other person is doing the same. Then you neigoate price back and forth until you both agree. No hard feelings should happen IMO its just business don't take it personal.
When its a buck or two I agree but not over ten or more
Again it's all realtive. A buck or two on a fifty cent card? Some people put stuff up for trade because its a hot item and they want to cash in. Look at all the lgs with the ftv realms. I just would say don't take it personally they are just trying to get the best deal for them. If you don't agree say no and on to the next one. Please feel free to try to explain your side if you think we are missing something. This is all just a discussion where we can even agree to disagree.
Also I am playing a little devils advocate.
Quote from: Flint on October 17, 2012, 07:24:15 PM
I feel like I'm the only one who uses "potential trades" on here.
i do too lol
Quote from: Elitehalo360 on October 17, 2012, 07:28:09 PM
Quote from: Flint on October 17, 2012, 07:24:15 PM
I feel like I'm the only one who uses "potential trades" on here.
i do too lol
Is that a function on the app? How does it work?
Yeah! .poo. on this thread it sucks anyways
How did this even make it to page three?
I used to use potential trades but since I can't get m13 and on it's useless to me now. Typing cards in manually doesn't get picked up by that function