I heard that even if you have 0 life, you don't lose until the end of the turn. So if i cast {channel} and payed 20, would i lose immeadiatley or at end of turn? Because im not sure if {channel}+{soul conduit} combo is a one hit kill, or if i can only do 19 damage.
Can someone atleast tell me what rule this is mentioned in?
As far as I know when you hit zero, unless you have {platinum angel}, you lose then and there
Quote from: Greg54js on August 17, 2012, 10:07:06 AM
As far as I know when you hit zero, unless you have {platinum angel}, you lose then and there
Oh. You can still swing for 19 though, so its still a good combo.
The ruling is 104.3b
So it does swing for 20! That means you would lose next player's upkeep!
No. That would be the next players 'turn'.
This says 'priority'. The opponent would gain priority if you cast anything, activated any abilities, or ended your 'phase'. Pretty much. Whenever they can 'respond' to something.
The rule you are talking about is ancient, but at that time, yes you had until the end of the turn before you died. Now you have until the next time the state is checked (as soon as someone can cast an instant for example)
Sorry jester I didn't have time this mowing to go through 700 rules to find the newest one
Quote from: Greg54js on August 17, 2012, 05:01:08 PM
Sorry jester I didn't have time this mowing to go through 700 rules to find the newest one
XD You won't find this rule unless you look through a rule book from 1998 or earlier. It has LONG since changed.
Also, I was referring to the "you don't die until the end of the phase" rule that OP mentioned.
My apologies, I should have been clearer.
So then my rule number was right?
Quote from: izik99 on August 17, 2012, 10:08:03 AM
Quote from: Greg54js on August 17, 2012, 10:07:06 AM
As far as I know when you hit zero, unless you have {platinum angel}, you lose then and there
Oh. You can still swing for 19 though, so its still a good combo.
Use the first 7 mana to cast platinum angel haha. Then you can go negative health if you want and swap :p
Some other way, yeah. But you can't go to negative life with {Channel}. You can't pay with something you don't have. You can go to zero though.
I wish I could pay with stuff I don't have...it would be useful in my future...
"WHERE IS THE F****** RENT!?!?!"
"I already payed for it with negative money! :D"
Wait nvm that actually does happen...
Quote from: BlackJester on August 18, 2012, 01:29:33 AM
Some other way, yeah. But you can't go to negative life with {Channel}. You can't pay with something you don't have. You can go to zero though.
This also applies to phyrexian mana right? Even if you have {Phyrexian Unlife}?
Yes.