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Title: Most broken card in history?
Post by: izik99 on August 15, 2012, 10:57:37 PM
What do you think the most broken card in the history of magic is? My guess is either {Time Walk} or {Sink Hole}.
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Silent1236 on August 15, 2012, 11:01:05 PM
I'm not sire about it being completely broken, but I totally agree, {Sink Hole} seems pretty crazy.
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: izik99 on August 15, 2012, 11:02:53 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 15, 2012, 11:01:05 PM
I'm not sire about it being completely broken, but I totally agree, {Sink Hole} seems pretty crazy.

I think the only land destroy card i have is 4 mana to cast :(
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: AgrusKos on August 15, 2012, 11:03:22 PM
Duh, {Black Lotus}😉
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Silent1236 on August 15, 2012, 11:04:32 PM
Quote from: AgrusKos on August 15, 2012, 11:03:22 PM
Duh, {Black Lotus}😉

Lol P9 is it's own version of OP. 
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: izik99 on August 15, 2012, 11:07:08 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 15, 2012, 11:04:32 PM
Quote from: AgrusKos on August 15, 2012, 11:03:22 PM
Duh, {Black Lotus}😉

Lol P9 is it's own version of OP.

I feel stupid now: what are p9 and OP?
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: smokin terry on August 15, 2012, 11:09:06 PM
Quote from: izik99 on August 15, 2012, 11:07:08 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 15, 2012, 11:04:32 PM
Quote from: AgrusKos on August 15, 2012, 11:03:22 PM
Duh, {Black Lotus}😉

Lol P9 is it's own version of OP.

I feel stupid now: what are p9 and OP?
P9=power 9=nine most expensive cards/powerful.
OP=over powered
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Silent1236 on August 15, 2012, 11:09:39 PM
P9 is the Power 9 and OP is just overpowered :P.  I can't remember all 9 parts of P9 though 
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: smokin terry on August 15, 2012, 11:11:07 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 15, 2012, 11:09:39 PM
P9 is the Power 9 and OP is just overpowered :P.  I can't remember all 9 parts of P9 though 
The 5 moxes {black lotus}, {time walk}, {ansetral recal}l, {time twister}.
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: AgrusKos on August 15, 2012, 11:29:33 PM
Quote from: Testset on August 15, 2012, 11:25:38 PM
{Hymn to Tourach} is up there...

I've never seen its equal in sheer discard power.
That's a broken cpmmon
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Falcon182 on August 16, 2012, 12:00:37 AM
Isn't {strip mine} more OP than {sinkhole}?
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Harmon74 on August 16, 2012, 12:25:17 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 15, 2012, 11:09:39 PM
P9 is the Power 9 and OP is just overpowered :P.  I can't remember all 9 parts of P9 though 
{mox jet}
{mox opal}
{mox sapphire}
{mox ruby}
{mox emerald}
{black lotus}
{timewalk}
{time twister}
{ancestral recall}
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Harmon74 on August 16, 2012, 12:27:32 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on August 16, 2012, 12:24:05 AM
Lol... {sink hole} is good but it's not in the same league as actual real broken cards like {tolarian academy}
That's a good one.  I like {mana drain} also. OP! Broken!
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: AgrusKos on August 16, 2012, 12:28:58 AM
Quote from: Harmon74 on August 16, 2012, 12:25:17 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 15, 2012, 11:09:39 PM
P9 is the Power 9 and OP is just overpowered :P.  I can't remember all 9 parts of P9 though 
{mox jet}
{mox opal}
{mox sapphire}
{mox ruby}
{mox emerald}
{black lotus}
{timewalk}
{time twister}
{time vault}
I thought no {Time Vault} but instead {Ancestral Recall}
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Quackmaster5 on August 16, 2012, 12:30:42 AM
{NECROPOTENCE}!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Harmon74 on August 16, 2012, 12:31:00 AM
Quote from: AgrusKos on August 16, 2012, 12:28:58 AM
Quote from: Harmon74 on August 16, 2012, 12:25:17 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on August 15, 2012, 11:09:39 PM
P9 is the Power 9 and OP is just overpowered :P.  I can't remember all 9 parts of P9 though 
{mox jet}
{mox opal}
{mox sapphire}
{mox ruby}
{mox emerald}
{black lotus}
{timewalk}
{time twister}
{time vault}
I thought no {Time Vault} but instead {Ancestral Recall}
You are right!  I'll edit.  Lol
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: AgrusKos on August 16, 2012, 12:38:23 AM
I, feel, like... A GENIUS!!!!!!
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: #noided on August 16, 2012, 01:04:05 AM
Surprised no one has said {Skullclamp} yet.
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: D3g3n on August 16, 2012, 01:36:54 AM
{Tinker} ranks up there. Would need to pair up with a Hexproofed {Blightsteel Collosus} or sone other powerful artifact.
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: cltrn81 on August 16, 2012, 08:31:56 AM
Quote from: D3g3n on August 16, 2012, 01:36:54 AM
{Tinker} ranks up there. Would need to pair up with a Hexproofed {Blightsteel Collosus} or sone other powerful artifact.
Yea tinker is BAAAHHHROKEN

Others not mentioned include:
{wild nactyl}
{bitterblossum}
{yawgmoth's will}
{yawgmoth's bargain}
{jace the mind sculptor}
{vampiric tutor}
{mystical tutor}
Artifact lands
Dredge
Reanimators
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: DevilGin on August 16, 2012, 08:45:58 AM
{force of will}
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Mentonin on August 16, 2012, 08:51:45 AM
Quote from: DevilGin on August 16, 2012, 08:45:58 AM
{force of will}
it isn't as broken as the others because it makes you lose card advantage. Yes, broken, but not as much to be one of the most
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Hays413 on August 16, 2012, 09:23:46 AM
Um {Island}.

Duh
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Dudecore on August 16, 2012, 10:20:58 AM
{Necropotence}, {Tinker} and P9 are OP.
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: BlackJester on August 16, 2012, 10:57:07 AM
The most broken card in the history of all of MtG:


🌟{Blacker Lotus}🌟

Literally broken (well ripped). 💩
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Thorn on August 16, 2012, 11:05:10 AM
My vote goes to {Brainstorm}
Probably not the most broken but it is up there.
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: izik99 on August 16, 2012, 11:30:44 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on August 16, 2012, 12:30:42 AM
{NECROPOTENCE}!!!!!!!

I dont get why its so good
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Gorzo on August 16, 2012, 11:35:47 AM
Quote from: izik99 on August 16, 2012, 11:30:44 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on August 16, 2012, 12:30:42 AM
{NECROPOTENCE}!!!!!!!

I dont get why its so good

Turn 1, {dark ritual}, {Necropotence}. You may now draw whatever you want. Card advantage is good, yo :P

That reminds me. {Dark Ritual} is pretty bonkers in my opinion
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: BlackJester on August 16, 2012, 11:56:39 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on August 16, 2012, 11:35:47 AM
Quote from: izik99 on August 16, 2012, 11:30:44 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on August 16, 2012, 12:30:42 AM
{NECROPOTENCE}!!!!!!!

I dont get why its so good

Turn 1, {dark ritual}, {Necropotence}. You may now draw whatever you want. Card advantage is good, yo :P

That reminds me. {Dark Ritual} is pretty bonkers in my opinion
1 card >> 1 life
Especially in a color that has life gain.
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Dudecore on August 16, 2012, 01:16:41 PM
To understand why {Necropotence} is so good, you have to undersfand why card advantage is so importanf. Assume two players have the exact same deck and both players have the same skill level. In order to increase your chance of winning, you need card advantage. With more cards in your hand you increase your chances to have and answer to your opponents moves. If you have more cards in your hand then you can also force your opponent into not being able to answer you.

with {Necropotence} you can refill your hand every single turn, and pick up cards like {Drain Life}. That'll offset life lost, and make you extremely difficult to beat. Cards that generate insane card advantage have been routinely abused and banned. ({Skullclamp}, {Jace, the Mind Sculptor}, Brainstorm} ect.)

All you have to do is get your opponent down to 0 life. Life is a resource and you can always win by 1.
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Prophylaxis on August 17, 2012, 11:26:21 PM
{Tolarian Academy}?
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Hays413 on August 17, 2012, 11:36:33 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on August 17, 2012, 11:26:21 PM
{Tolarian Academy}?

Ahh affinity
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Prophylaxis on August 18, 2012, 01:55:12 AM
Quote from: izik99 on August 16, 2012, 11:30:44 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on August 16, 2012, 12:30:42 AM
{NECROPOTENCE}!!!!!!!

I dont get why its so good

At heart, Magic is a resource trading game. You trade cards for creatures, spells for cards, etc.

{Necropotence} basically is "Pay 1 life: Draw a card." What would you do - pay 2U for a {Divination} or pay 2 life?

Yes, the card is confusing and hard to grok. Just remember: It trades life for cards - and on a 1:1 ratio that's very good.
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Coffee Vampire on August 18, 2012, 02:12:22 AM
Okay just think about it: {Sign in Blood} sees a lot of standard play. It is a pretty decent draw spell (and one of the only ones black has :().

Now think of casting sign in blood for free whenever you want!!!!
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Willthomjr on August 18, 2012, 02:15:56 AM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on August 18, 2012, 02:12:22 AM
Okay just think about it: {Sign in Blood} sees a lot of standard play. It is a pretty decent draw spell (and one of the only ones black has :().

Now think of casting sign in blood for free whenever you want!!!!

When I started playing again I thought {harrowing journey} was good. Not so much haha
Title: Re: Most broken card in history?
Post by: Prophylaxis on August 18, 2012, 02:39:03 AM
Quote from: Willthomjr on August 18, 2012, 02:15:56 AM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on August 18, 2012, 02:12:22 AM
Okay just think about it: {Sign in Blood} sees a lot of standard play. It is a pretty decent draw spell (and one of the only ones black has :().

Now think of casting sign in blood for free whenever you want!!!!

When I started playing again I thought {harrowing journey} was good. Not so much haha
The effect is actually good in Commander in black decks because card advantage. The problem with it is that {Ambition's Cost} is 1 less.