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Coffee Vampire
Boss 100
May 16, 2012, 11:21:58 PM
A bored wizard once played a Vizzadrex card in a game of Magic: The Gathering. He never made that mistake again.



BadLuckIrish
Member 8
May 16, 2012, 11:22:31 PM
Dragon's Claw isn't a terrible sack outlet for Kuldotha Rebirth. Just so happens that Shrine of Burning Rage is better...

I like it, wish it were longer. I like the pro-con thing. Maybe even team up with someone and do a "Pardon the Interruption" with cards, one person for it, another against it. It'd be interesting reading someone's defense of why Vizzadrex isn't terrible.
This. Id spend all day reading that article.



BlackJester
Boss 100
May 17, 2012, 12:13:49 AM
Dragon's Claw isn't a terrible sack outlet for Kuldotha Rebirth. Just so happens that Shrine of Burning Rage is better...

I like it, wish it were longer. I like the pro-con thing. Maybe even team up with someone and do a "Pardon the Interruption" with cards, one person for it, another against it. It'd be interesting reading someone's defense of why Vizzadrex isn't terrible.

Why would you sac the Shrine? ???  That thing is a game finisher!

Re: Vizzerdrix

My point is that 1 less mana gets you a 6/6 frost Titan.  Besides what does blue need a beast for when they have leviathans and krakens?

Well, I don't know if it's fair to compare it to a Titan.  Few things can live up to that.

It's strictly better than a Ronom Serpent, Sea Serpent, and Steelclad Serpent (unless artifacts matter), all for 5U.

Vizzerdrix can be a finisher in a blue control deck when the board is locked.  Yes, there are better choices, but there are worse ones too.




Last Edit: May 17, 2012, 12:16:04 AM by BlackJester
Dudecore
Boss 100
May 17, 2012, 12:39:14 AM
Black Jester, you're the perfect guy for this. You make it seem as though a bad card has ever been printed.

Also, you wouldn't sack the shrine of burning rage per se, unless you had to. Let's say you had a goblin grenade and you don't have a lot invested in the shrine. It's more the "what-if" function of the shrine.

Sometimes in the game of chess, sacrificing your queen is a brilliant move, and sometimes it's your only move.

Also, in fairness to Vizzadrex, he was from a different era. He was never good...but he was from a different time. Worst creature is reserved for Wood Elemental, the most obviously bad creature.



Last Edit: May 17, 2012, 12:42:56 AM by Dudecore
BadLuckIrish
Member 8
May 17, 2012, 12:45:56 AM
Black Jester, you're the perfect guy for this. You make it seem as though a bad card has ever been printed.

Also, you wouldn't sack the shrine of burning rage per se, unless you had to. Let's say you had a goblin grenade and you don't have a lot invested in the shrine. It's more the "what-if" function of the shrine.

Sometimes in the game of chess, sacrificing your queen is a brilliant move, and sometimes it's your only move.

Also, in fairness to Vizzadrex, he was from a different era. He was never good...but he was from a different time. Worst creature is reserved for Wood Elemental, the most obviously bad creature.
actually paired with Omnath, the locus of mana and green mana producing creatures he isnt that bad.



Dudecore
Boss 100
May 17, 2012, 12:48:28 AM
Green Mana isn't forests. Wood Elemental stinks. 1 bounce and he ruined your hand forever. He can't be recast.

Edit: And to make matters worse (stupid?) they have to be UNTAPPED forests. It's not enough that you deplete all of your resources for a vanilla creature...they have to be active resources only.



Last Edit: May 17, 2012, 12:51:45 AM by Dudecore
Coffee Vampire
Boss 100
May 17, 2012, 12:51:23 AM
I would use him as a game finisher with Knight of the Reliquary. That would be a pretty sick combo! Use it in a deck with fetchlands like Verdant Catacombs for a good buildup.



Last Edit: May 17, 2012, 12:53:51 AM by Coffee Vampire
BadLuckIrish
Member 8
May 17, 2012, 12:52:25 AM
Green Mana isn't forests. Wood Elemental stinks. 1 bounce and he ruined your hand forever. He can't be recast.
No but with omnath and say Llanowar Elves you dont need forests. Just showing how he can be ok. Not great but ok. Mana ramp forest then sac all of them
Can be like a 8+ easy




Dudecore
Boss 100
May 17, 2012, 12:55:21 AM
Green Mana isn't forests. Wood Elemental stinks. 1 bounce and he ruined your hand forever. He can't be recast.
No but with omnath and say Llanowar Elves you dont need forests. Just showing how he can be ok. Not great but ok. Mana ramp forest then sac all of them
Can be like a 8+ easy

I would love to Vapor Snag him so badly...



BadLuckIrish
Member 8
May 17, 2012, 01:00:10 AM
Green Mana isn't forests. Wood Elemental stinks. 1 bounce and he ruined your hand forever. He can't be recast.
No but with omnath and say Llanowar Elves you dont need forests. Just showing how he can be ok. Not great but ok. Mana ramp forest then sac all of them
Can be like a 8+ easy

I would love to Vapor Snag him so badly...
hey theres a counter to everything. Just giving a scenerio in which he CAN be considered useful.



Dudecore
Boss 100
May 17, 2012, 01:09:57 AM
I like it. I'd like to see you guys defend the legitimacy of Sea Troll and Mogg Squad.

Wood Elemental has a wildly limited, but possible use, Mogg Squad just seems unplayable.



BadLuckIrish
Member 8
May 17, 2012, 01:18:11 AM
I like it. I'd like to see you guys defend the legitimacy of Sea Troll and Mogg Squad.

Wood Elemental has a wildly limited, but possible use, Mogg Squad just seems unplayable.
Shrine of the Burning Rage  Blood Artist morbid :p



BlackJester
Boss 100
May 17, 2012, 01:39:09 AM
If you want a terrible creature card, @Prophylaxis said it best
www.starcity.....ime_201.html

Shelkin Brownie. There are NO CREATURES WITH BANDS WITH OTHER AS AN ABILITY EVER. AND THIS CARD HOSES IT.




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