What the next best draw card to ancestral recall?
Chat Threads
DownAugust 04, 2015, 10:52:50 PM
I am making a blue deck and need some card advantage, but AR is way to expensive for me, what would you do?
Like
Ban
Quote
Report
August 05, 2015, 01:17:51 PM
I always liked Brainstorm Or if your heavy mana Braingeyser But really depends on format. There is also one form time spiral Ancestral VisionLast Edit: August 05, 2015, 01:30:51 PM by Rass
August 05, 2015, 04:36:05 PM
I think the best way to get card advantage is to use cards that both draw, AND do something, aka cantrips. Often not too expensive (mana-wise) and replace themselves in your hand. remand is a nice example, or gitaxian probe
Or things that make you set up what you draw.
Preordain for example, or interpret the signs if you have the mana.
Another nice one is think twice.
August 06, 2015, 03:28:04 PM
Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time. As long as you're filling your graveyard these are arguably the best draw spells. 
August 28, 2015, 04:19:01 AM
One of the most fun probably are:Stroke of Genius
Blue Sun's Zenith
Sphinx's Revelation
Yes I know they need a lot of mana to work, but with things like Teferi, Temporal Archmage, Turnabout, and even Twiddle, it's really easy to abuse and win the game by using Nykthos a bunch of times
August 28, 2015, 10:40:42 AM
consecrated sphinx for late gameIf ur playing commander
And its multiplayer
And you can draw like 8 cards per rotation
August 29, 2015, 06:30:53 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on August 28, 2015, 05:55:41 PM
Might I suggest 4 laboratory maniacs to go with that?Quote from: Taysby on August 28, 2015, 05:17:54 PMQuote from: Noblellama on August 28, 2015, 04:35:25 PMQuote from: Taysby on August 28, 2015, 04:29:31 PMPssh, noobs. howling mine for dayz
go all the way man
Font of Mythos
Costs too much mana bro.
4 Dictate of Kruphix
4 Howling Mine
4 Font of Mythos
4 Consecrated Sphinx
DRAW ALL THE CARDS (each turn)
August 29, 2015, 08:54:06 PM
Might I suggest 4 laboratory maniacs to go with that?Pssh, noobs. howling mine for dayz
go all the way man
Font of Mythos
Costs too much mana bro.
4 Dictate of Kruphix
4 Howling Mine
4 Font of Mythos
4 Consecrated Sphinx
DRAW ALL THE CARDS (each turn)
Notion Thief. *drops mic*
August 30, 2015, 04:40:04 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 29, 2015, 08:54:06 PM
But, but nombo with Sphinx...Quote from: Kaylesh on August 29, 2015, 06:30:53 PMQuote from: Noblellama on August 28, 2015, 05:55:41 PMMight I suggest 4 laboratory maniacs to go with that?Quote from: Taysby on August 28, 2015, 05:17:54 PMQuote from: Noblellama on August 28, 2015, 04:35:25 PMQuote from: Taysby on August 28, 2015, 04:29:31 PMPssh, noobs. howling mine for dayz
go all the way man
Font of Mythos
Costs too much mana bro.
4 Dictate of Kruphix
4 Howling Mine
4 Font of Mythos
4 Consecrated Sphinx
DRAW ALL THE CARDS (each turn)
Notion Thief. *drops mic*
August 30, 2015, 02:02:15 PM
Wait, if they have Sphinx, and you have notion thief, don't you just die?But, but nombo with Sphinx...Might I suggest 4 laboratory maniacs to go with that?Pssh, noobs. howling mine for dayz
go all the way man
Font of Mythos
Costs too much mana bro.
4 Dictate of Kruphix
4 Howling Mine
4 Font of Mythos
4 Consecrated Sphinx
DRAW ALL THE CARDS (each turn)
Notion Thief. *drops mic*
August 30, 2015, 03:10:29 PM
Sphinx is a may. They may choose to not draw, so notion thief stopsWait, if they have Sphinx, and you have notion thief, don't you just die?But, but nombo with Sphinx...Might I suggest 4 laboratory maniacs to go with that?Pssh, noobs. howling mine for dayz
go all the way man
Font of Mythos
Costs too much mana bro.
4 Dictate of Kruphix
4 Howling Mine
4 Font of Mythos
4 Consecrated Sphinx
DRAW ALL THE CARDS (each turn)
Notion Thief. *drops mic*
August 30, 2015, 03:37:23 PM
But why would they stop when they can just kill you? And by doing so, that puts more Sphinx triggers on the stack that will resolve once you die, so they get to draw buttloads of cards.Sphinx is a may. They may choose to not draw, so notion thief stopsWait, if they have Sphinx, and you have notion thief, don't you just die?But, but nombo with Sphinx...Might I suggest 4 laboratory maniacs to go with that?Pssh, noobs. howling mine for dayz
go all the way man
Font of Mythos
Costs too much mana bro.
4 Dictate of Kruphix
4 Howling Mine
4 Font of Mythos
4 Consecrated Sphinx
DRAW ALL THE CARDS (each turn)
Notion Thief. *drops mic*
As for the best card draw spells, I'd argue the top three are:
1. Ancestral Recall. No explanation needed.
2. Brainstorm + fetch lands. On its own, Brainstorm can be very mediocre. But once you add fetches into the mix, you can draw three, put two cards on top that you never want to see again, and then fetch to shuffle them away. It's really close to Ancestral. It also has the utility of hiding cards from spells that reveal your hand, and it can dig you into a desperately needed answer at instant speed. There's a reason the card is so widely played in Legacy.
3. Treasure Cruise. The sorcery speed and high graveyard commitment make this a little less universally awesome as the previous two, but it's still bonkers. In competitive decks, you play lots of cheap spells and fetches, filling your yard so you can cast Treasure Cruise super early to refill on lots of cheap spells and fetches to fuel future Cruises. There is quite a bit of overlap with Dig Through Time, since Dig gets better card quality at instant speed, but Cruise provided very aggressive decks with a way to trivially refuel and last into the midgame. It was way too strong. Hell, burn splashed blue just to run Cruise.
Up
Last
Next