Touchy subject #5: Gun rights NSFW

I agree, my point simply it should be more of a privilege. Why do we have to prove we can use a vehicle, yet we do nothing to purchase semi automatic weapons?

Owning things is not privilege, it is natural right. Guns are things.

So are cars, licenses, etc, just dating;)

Quote from: Piotr on July 20, 2013, 04:33:06 AM

Owning things is not privilege, it is natural right. Guns are things.

So are cars, licenses, etc, just dating;)

Exactly. Does that mean that we shouldn't stop people from owning cars and other things? Yes.

You guys do realize you do get visited by the ATF (at least you were supposed to, the scandal there threw a wrench into things) once a year if you own automatic weaponry right?
 I understand that a year is a lonnng time, but there are some checks in place. Don't just eat up whatever the news feeds you. When I purchased my rifle at a gun show, there was a background check, and my rifle was immediately registered. There was not however a waiting period, dont agree woth that too much but yeah. They don't just hand you a baby killing machine with heat seeking rounds and shout "have fun killing people!" 

Besides, the right to bear arms, as written in the second amendment "must not be infringed" (can't remember if that's exact wording or not, but it's to that effect)

Just as a formality: if something is written in the US law, doesn't mean that it is right and good. Second amendment is good, but there are plenty of laws in the US which are pure evil.

i bought my glock and took my concealed carry class specifically because of the shooting sprees. you know what, sure you don't go out looking to play hero, but i sure as heck don't want to be another guy in one of those situations that could have taken action.

seriously guns aren't a problem to normal people, it's only those with malicious intent in the first place (which includes mentally unstable) there are plenty of mentally unstable people (not saying they should get a gun) that have never had any malicious intentions.

really what you have to ask yourself is, what's the greater evil and can you or any  government really regulate evil?

I feel people should be allowed to have guns as long aspen of the following is true:
-They work for the Government
-Tgey have NO criminal record besides things non-offensive
-They have a permit from the government because they need it for self-defense
-A thorough, THOROUGH background check has been completed.
-They are a legal citizen of the country they are in.
-They are at least 26 years old.
-They get it through a government-sanctioned shop.
And they need to do this again for ammunition.

Wow...Any particular reason you think that someone in a free country should go through a ridiculous dog and pony show to own a gun? Why 26? Who was your political science teacher?

An extreme intellectual, actually. If you net her, you would understand. But I have reasons. Plus, we need to make SURE they won't, or at least REALLY probably won't, go psycho with it.

Owning things is not privilege, it is natural right. Guns are things.

That is the smartest thing I have ever heard...ever

Quote from: Mlerner12 on July 19, 2013, 05:51:07 PM

I feel people should be allowed to have guns as long aspen of the following is true:
-They work for the Government
-Tgey have NO criminal record besides things non-offensive
-They have a permit from the government because they need it for self-defense
-A thorough, THOROUGH background check has been completed.
-They are a legal citizen of the country they are in.
-They are at least 26 years old.
-They get it through a government-sanctioned shop.
And they need to do this again for ammunition.

Wow...Any particular reason you think that someone in a free country should go through a ridiculous dog and pony show to own a gun? Why 26? Who was your political science teacher?

Also, one of the following must be true, not all.

Chuckles, I think all of us need to accept a simple fact here. If you ban guns or place to many restrictions on them 3 things will happen. One, people will be angry. Two less people will probably die, but my bet is crime rates in general will go up, seeing as how criminals don't care in the first place. And I'm willing to bet ou that hardcore gang activity will increase as well, at least guns are usually quick and relatively clean.

On a different note Sweden has the lowest rate of gun related accidents, and crimes.

Funny thing is Sweden has mandatory gun safety and requires every household to have a rifle.

Do my logic is as follows, if a man walked into a school with a automatic weapon and was shot about 60 times by the student body, is it not safer? He'll I beet you people in that school would have a lot less drama since everyone is packing.

One last gun story. Funnily enough any nation that has had a mass genocide of any people started by taking away their weapons, an thus their ability to resist. Now I prefer not being a lemming here, and I like to be paranoid so please just be courteous an respect the rights others. 

That is all, oh yeah btw, AMERICA .love. YEAH!!!

Amendment #2... The right to bear arms.

People that flip out about this being in our constitutional rights need to understand this:

That was meant for the REVOLUTIONARY WAR TIME.

It doesnt mean you should have a firearm on your belt as you walk through a crowd of people. That's just dumb.

I should stop posting in these i'm very opinionated.

If I see a wild dog pissing on my front lawn, should I down it from the porch, or would you rather I walk out there and beat it away with a stick, and possibly get rabies. This wussification of America needs to stop, next well be banning q-tips and swimming pools for being hazardous. ,_,

That was meant for the REVOLUTIONARY WAR TIME.

It is in the constitution. Was constitution meant for revolutionary war time?

An extreme intellectual, actually. If you net her, you would understand. But I have reasons. Plus, we need to make SURE they won't, or at least REALLY probably won't, go psycho with it.

What are your reasons to hurt people unprovoked?