Touchy Subjects #1: Gay Marriage *NFSW

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ELLERfeller
Boss 61
July 17, 2013, 01:55:44 AM
Marriage is sacred to all Christians because it's a sign of union under God. Saying that I am a Christian and this whole argument comes down to the government having no place in this and homosexuality is a sin. This nation was founded on Christian beliefs. Why are we straying from them now? I don't hate anyone who is homosexual, I act with many many gays and I find that type of lifestyle disgusting but i still consider then friends and they know I dislike that lifestyle. People try to turn this into a Hate discussion but it's about love. I love you enough not to want to see you live eternity in Hell so yes I will do everything in my power to keep you from that fate.



Gorzo
Boss 100
July 17, 2013, 03:29:47 AM
This is why we can't have nice things.



Piotr
User 100
July 17, 2013, 06:06:35 AM
Saying its ok to deny marriage rights to gay people is ignorant. It's akin to saying you have to be a white male land owner that can vote. We are doing the same thing we did by denying black people their rights. Exact same thing just with a different group of people.

It is ignorant to say that any group of people have any right whatsoever to decide fate of other people by voting. Democracy is an evil system where majority is a tyrant over minority. Get it to your heads, people, you have no right to tell me what I should do just because there's more of you than me. Democracy is evil and violates iMtG law under false pretences.



Last Edit: July 17, 2013, 06:11:37 AM by Piotr
ApexPredator
User 100
July 17, 2013, 11:08:38 AM
Why is it ok to treat people differently? It's not by any means. We are all people no matter what. You can't deny people their rights. By your argument you're saying that you agree with denying women and minorities their rights just because they aren't white males. Same issue different context. We as a society have no place denying that.



Piotr
User 100
July 17, 2013, 11:47:03 AM
By your argument you're saying that you agree with denying women and minorities their rights just because they aren't white males.

Stop putting words in my mouth or you will say good bye to this forum.



Last Edit: July 17, 2013, 11:51:49 AM by Piotr
ApexPredator
User 100
July 17, 2013, 01:30:41 PM
Just because men and women have different outward appearances doesn't mean they aren't different. People that's all they are. From your argument I could treat someone differently because they don't wear the same clothes I do or because their taste in music is different.



Piotr
User 100
July 17, 2013, 01:35:14 PM
From your argument I could treat someone differently because they don't wear the same clothes I do or because their taste in music is different.

Of course you can. Are you saying you cannot?



ApexPredator
User 100
July 17, 2013, 03:33:32 PM
Why? What's the point of that? Who gave us the right to judge other people? As far as I know no one did.



Mikefrompluto
User 100
July 17, 2013, 03:45:23 PM
Why? What's the point of that? Who gave us the right to judge other people? As far as I know no one did.

We have the right and ability to do whatever we want. You just choose not to do certain things. I believe that's what he meant.



Piotr
User 100
July 17, 2013, 04:51:35 PM
Why? What's the point of that? Who gave us the right to judge other people? As far as I know no one did.

Common sense.



ApexPredator
User 100
July 17, 2013, 05:36:15 PM
Why? What's the point of that? Who gave us the right to judge other people? As far as I know no one did.

Common sense.
So it's common sense to discriminate?



Last Edit: July 17, 2013, 05:37:51 PM by NightWolf
Mikefrompluto
User 100
July 17, 2013, 05:53:41 PM
Why? What's the point of that? Who gave us the right to judge other people? As far as I know no one did.

Common sense.
So it's common sense to discriminate?

No. Common sense that you can do whatever you want. Whether or not its right or wrong is a different matter.

Example. If I wanted to, I could punch a baby, call someone a .manlover., and ride a motorcycle into a large crowd. Just because I CAN do that doesn't make it right and it also doesn't mean there won't be consequences.

You follow?



ApexPredator
User 100
July 17, 2013, 06:06:13 PM
Yeah I get that. But does know one have morals? How's it ok to judge? How's it ok to discriminate?



Mikefrompluto
User 100
July 17, 2013, 06:12:44 PM
Yeah I get that. But does know one have morals? How's it ok to judge? How's it ok to discriminate?

I didnt say it is okay to judge and discriminate. I just merely stated that you have the natural born right and ability to do whatever you want. By trying to stifle and control how anti-gay marriage people choose to feel about the issue, you're doing the exact same thing youre accusing them of doing. Judging and being discriminant.



ApexPredator
User 100
July 17, 2013, 08:08:44 PM
Incorrect sir. I never said they were bad people or I would treat them differently. I merely disagree with their opinion like they disagree with mine. It's one thing to disagree another to be discriminatory because you disagree.



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