Touchy Subjects #1: Gay Marriage *NFSW

Really don't care what people do behind closed doors. If they are all consenting adults good for them.

Not a big fan of meeting someone and there first thing they tell me after their name is that they are gay.

This isn't making a mockery of it! It's constitutionally correct , isn't it? 😉

I agree that you should care for someone even if they are gay.

However, marriage is for family raising.  There are traits that men have and traits that women have to raise a child.  If two men raise a child, they won't experience any motherly traits.  To allow gay people to get married is a desecration of marriage and makes a mockery of it.

If gay people just want to live together, I'm perfectly ok with it.  If they want the same benefits as married people, they can go to their attorney and get documents written up to get those benefits.  They have no reason to need to get married and make a mockery of it.

What if a man and a woman want to get married, but they don't ever want kids? That is very common. By your logic, they should never be allowed to be married to one another. True or false?

We wouldn't have this problem if government didnt interfere.

Agreed. My church has long been a watchdog for religious freedoms. It seems important for any religious institution to guard against state interference in issues like marriage. This is why I am baffled when I hear about Christian groups pressuring the government to take a stance on gay marriage (or any other issue for that matter). That is a foolish double standard and a dangerous precedent to establish. Don't Christians remember why many of their religious forebears established colonies here? The government should fulfill its responsibilities; set up roads, build an army, provide parks, and yes, even tax me so I can enjoy those privileges. But don't meddle in family affairs like marriage.

My opinion is that if that's you thing that's your thing............ Just keep your "thing" away from me. Doesn't bother me until you don't respect my personal boundaries. Until then, keep on keeping on.

I personally do not agree with it.  Probably from being raised in a baptist family, and still agreeing with the beliefs.  I do honestly believe you will go to hell for being homosexual.  However!  I still have gay friends, love the person not the sin.  I also wish to keep the displays of gay love (eating each others face off while making out) in a private place.  Aka away from me.

We wouldn't have this problem if government didnt interfere.

But the governments have to.  Marriage affects taxes and things like that.  The government shouldn't care if you get married religiously, but if it the marriage has to do with how taxes are paid, then it is a government problem.

Quote from: Mikefrompluto on July 14, 2013, 05:56:49 PM

Quote from: Taysby on July 14, 2013, 05:37:48 PM

I agree that you should care for someone even if they are gay.

However, marriage is for family raising.  There are traits that men have and traits that women have to raise a child.  If two men raise a child, they won't experience any motherly traits.  To allow gay people to get married is a desecration of marriage and makes a mockery of it.

If gay people just want to live together, I'm perfectly ok with it.  If they want the same benefits as married people, they can go to their attorney and get documents written up to get those benefits.  They have no reason to need to get married and make a mockery of it.

What if a man and a woman want to get married, but they don't ever want kids? That is very common. By your logic, they should never be allowed to be married to one another. True or false?

Oftentimes, people change their mind after getting married, or just plain have accidents. 

Way to not answer the question

Quote from: Piotr on July 15, 2013, 04:16:05 AM

We wouldn't have this problem if government didnt interfere.

But the governments have to.  Marriage affects taxes and things like that.  The government shouldn't care if you get married religiously, but if it the marriage has to do with how taxes are paid, then it is a government problem.

No they don't have to. Taxation should be the same for everyone, otherwise equality under the law is an empty slogan.

The only reason that gay marriage is because of marriage being considered sacred in the eyes of the church and unfortunately this has some how influenced voters. In the end marriage is about love not about gender or race or anything like that I find it stupid to deny people's happiness over something that shouldn't really matter don't deny them happiness because of what you may think is wrong (I'm sorry if this comes of as offensive to anyone this is just my point of view on this subject) 

The problem is that what exactly is  "marriage" and what it implies varies from person to person

It hardly does. Marriage is and always was a formal union between man and woman. What certain lobbyists are trying to do is to change the meaning of the word. 1984 anyone? :p

Saying its ok to deny marriage rights to gay people is ignorant. It's akin to saying you have to be a white male land owner that can vote. We are doing the same thing we did by denying black people their rights. Exact same thing just with a different group of people.

Saying its ok to deny marriage rights to gay people is ignorant. It's akin to saying you have to be a white male land owner that can vote. We are doing the same thing we did by denying black people their rights. Exact same thing just with a different group of people.

Marriage is a formal union of man and woman. It is ignorant and moronic to say that anyone is denying marriage to sexual deviants, by the same logic we are denying marriage to trees.