January 31, 2013, 02:35:48 AM
Any thoughts will be much appreciated
January 31, 2013, 06:30:39 PM
Gunna run this at my FNM tonight, unless we do sealed

See how I go I guess..
January 31, 2013, 09:18:18 PM
The gorgon and the renegade demon are pretty useless man, but if you want to make your deck better you should try to round out your mana curb a little by adding 3-4
demonic taskmasters and some
duress (3-4) to get rid of any board wipes, removal, counter spells, and even plainswalkers. So yeah that's my 2¢
Last Edit: January 31, 2013, 09:38:42 PM by Jdogtoocool
January 31, 2013, 10:54:54 PM
The gorgon and the renegade demon are pretty useless man, but if you want to make your deck better you should try to round out your mana curb a little by adding 3-4 demonic taskmasters and some duress (3-4) to get rid of any board wipes, removal, counter spells, and even plainswalkers. So yeah that's my 2¢
Yeah fair call on those two creatures. I guess I was at a loss as to what to use as a mid game beat stick. My ideal substitute for them will be
bloodgift demon.
Also I don't really mind if they die to heartless or some creature when
Harvester of Souls is out in play, (I need to get my hands on 2 more) as the amount of card draw this deck generates with them is crazy.
The gorgon was really just to help against agro and use a bit extra mana if needed. Plus helps shut down and activated annoyances.
I thought I could use the
Gravepurge to help reset after board wipes, but the only made it to the sideboard.
Counter spells will be my biggest issue with this deck, as you pointed out. Lucky tho, my meta runs very few.

Thanks for the tips.
February 03, 2013, 07:02:31 AM
Runs really solid and I love when they have used up all their removal and I put my fattys back on top of my deck with gravepurge.
Any more suggestions?
I think if I can get my hands on
Lord of the Void I will probably run 1 of and also 1 of
Sepulchral Primordial
February 03, 2013, 01:31:50 PM
If you dont get out your Heartless Summoning you just lose
Firstly I usually get one in my hand at the start, if not usually first mulligan will give me what I need.
Secondly sign in blood is the best way I have to find it, and it has worked for all the games I didn't start with heartless.
So yeah, not really. It just works tons better when I have it, but its no auto fail.
February 03, 2013, 03:46:31 PM
Crypt Ghast to help ramp into your big boys if you don't get a heartless.
February 03, 2013, 05:30:14 PM
Crypt Ghast to help ramp into your big boys if you don't get a heartless.
I only have 1 so far, and I tried it out, it just seems too fragile up next to all the others. I guess you are right tho, it's good when my heartless isn't there, and won't matter when it is.
March 02, 2013, 08:03:34 PM
Ok, I'm looking to add
Liliana of the Dark Realms to help with mana consultancy and possibly help stabalize the deck a bit. But it's only a 1 of. 4 mana seems to be the sweet spot in this deck, although with more I can do more. My issue is getting from 2 or 3 up to 4 consistently.
I'm having issues of early failures. Maybe it's bad shuffling, but I'm not sure about that either. I do 3 kinds of shuffle and I still end up mana flooded or dry. Plenty of games I've mulliganed down to 5 after winning the roll. Often keeping a less that optimal 5 cards not wanting to go down to 4.
I guess one of my options is up my lands to 23-24 in a chance that will help my opening 7 cards in hand.
What do I remove if this is the path I would like to go?
Last Edit: March 02, 2013, 08:05:38 PM by Wally
March 07, 2013, 10:49:00 PM
Crypt Ghast to help ramp into your big boys if you don't get a heartless.
Ok, so I got my hands on a playset of these guys, and seriously, it's rediculious now.
T1. Swamp
T2. Swamp, heartless
T3. Swamp, crypt ghast
T4. Swamp, griselbrand, desecration demon/crypt ghast, etc
T5. Essence harvest & extort & swing?
Best addition ever. Thanks!
March 10, 2013, 01:13:38 PM
If you could get a playset of cavern of souls that would be pretty good for this deck.
March 26, 2013, 07:00:50 PM
Changed sideboard yet again. Need to deal with fast agro decks.
(And bumping for all the mono colored discussions)