Flayer of the Hatebound 👿

[Ghebert]

So if {Flayer of the Hatebound} dies and the undying triggers, will the ability on it trigger before he's on the battlefield, only dealing 4 damaged to an opponent? Or after he's on the battlefield it triggers dealing 5 damage due to the counter from undying?

[#noided]

Well, he has to enter the battlefield for it to even trigger. By that time undying has resolved.

[BlackJester]

Undying cause him to enter with the +1/+1 counter on him.  He doesn't enter as a 4/2 and then get a counter, he'll enter as a 5/3 (For purposes of a double {Heartless Summoning} he'd live).

[Jdogtoocool]

Or a {grave Titan}

[BlackJester]

Or a {grave Titan}

Not sure what you mean by this.

[Willthomjr]

Or a {grave Titan}

Not sure what you mean by this.

The grave Titan wouldn't die, just it's tokens. So I'm not sure why you'd do that either.

[Jdogtoocool]

Yup that was the joke, 2 black mana cost grave Titan that puts out 0/0 tokens